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post #1891 of 20146 Old 06-10-2013, 09:37 PM
 
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MS is still going to sell plenty of consoles. They'll have a more uphill battle, but nothing worse than the PS3 did.

And after the way they phoned this in and humiliated their best customers, they're going to be forced to bring their A game. I honestly think they'll rethink their physical game policy, and they're going to be looking to win back their core. Once they start that plan, things will be great to pick one up.

Their slightly underpowered, but the hardware is still very capable. We saw the games. The problem is software and corporate policy alone, and that can be dropped and fixed much more easily.
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http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/130611a_e.pdf

Some hardware stats.

Controllers are $59, Camera is $59.

PlayStation®4 system × 1
Wireless Controller (DUALSHOCK®4) × 1
Mono headset × 1
AC power cord × 1
HDMI cable × 1
USB cable × 1

Phew, looks like I wont need to be sending anyone a free cable. smile.gif

Also looks like the PSU is internal, no giant power brick.

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http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/130611a_e.pdf

Some hardware stats.

Controllers are $59, Camera is $59.

PlayStation®4 system × 1
Wireless Controller (DUALSHOCK®4) × 1
Mono headset × 1
AC power cord × 1
HDMI cable × 1
USB cable × 1

Phew, looks like I wont need to be sending anyone a free cable. smile.gif

Also looks like the PSU is internal, no giant power brick.

I just saw that. It also comes with a 500GB hard drive.

And it has a legacy optical output for old school audio.

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So it comes with a headset? Any pictures of it?

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I had a PS3 3 years ago, need to go see if my gamer tag is still available.

I have never stood up and cheered while watching an E3 press event before but, I did it twice tonight. Once for the no DRM (GameFly still works!) and again for the price!

I feel kinda dumb for being so happy about a new console but, is just so excited. MS deserves all the bad press they can get, any company that is willing to create a product without the consumers best interest in mind deserves the backlash.

My top 5 wanted games are Watch Dogs, Battlefield 4, Destiny, MGS V and the Oddworld game. I want SW Battlefront to but, since EA didn't even list a year, who knows when it is coming.

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http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/130611a_e.pdf

Some hardware stats.

Controllers are $59, Camera is $59.

PlayStation®4 system × 1
Wireless Controller (DUALSHOCK®4) × 1
Mono headset × 1
AC power cord × 1
HDMI cable × 1
USB cable × 1

Phew, looks like I wont need to be sending anyone a free cable. smile.gif

Also looks like the PSU is internal, no giant power brick.

There goes my free HDMI cable....
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So it comes with a headset? Any pictures of it?

Nah, but expect a cheap POS like the stock live headset.

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Wait.. what?? That was Mad Max? When I was was watching the stream I read when someone mentioned Fallout on here. But I wasn't watching the stream when they named it. It was Mad Max?

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Cmon how can you not be interested in a game based on Mad Max? Which looks like Road Warrior style Mad Max? I had no idea what it was, until, I saw the profile of that Australian Ford Falcon!! I'm such a car nut I recognized it right away, even did a little squeal and clap (don't tell anybody). Fingers crossed these guys "get it" and don't fock it up.

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Guess we can't have it ALL with a 1 TB HDD :P, hopefully it's upgradeable like the PS3, will definitely do it if that's the case, I hate having externally powered HDDs and from my experience those are more prone to corrupting than internal ones.

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http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/130611a_e.pdf

Some hardware stats.

Controllers are $59, Camera is $59.

PlayStation®4 system × 1
Wireless Controller (DUALSHOCK®4) × 1
Mono headset × 1
AC power cord × 1
HDMI cable × 1
USB cable × 1

Phew, looks like I wont need to be sending anyone a free cable. smile.gif

Also looks like the PSU is internal, no giant power brick.

Phew, me too, I get to keep my left nut.

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They seem pretty simple to me. Nothing like the ridiculous curved surfaces of the last gen. These are nice and squared off, even if the PS4 is a little....angular.

And is it just me, or does the PS4 look quite a bit smaller? Kind of crazy, considering its packing more heat-producing horsepower under the hood.

I'm not surprised Sony has always been far better at hardware engineering than MS. They are easily one of the best electronics design and engineering firms out there, Apple literally copied their industrial sheek designs from Sony. If you've ever see and opened up Sony's compact devices like their UMPCs and have a little background in electronics you'll know exact what I'm talking about
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I wonder where the discs are inserted?

The only thing that worries me about the physical design is its size. It look pretty small for a gen 1 version, I hope overheating isn't a problem. I was burnt by the RROD a few times, don't want to have to go through that again.

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I wonder where the discs are inserted?

The only thing that worries me about the physical design is its size. It look pretty small for a gen 1 version, I hope overheating isn't a problem. I was burnt by the RROD a few times, don't want to have to go through that again.

I wouldn't be as concerned with over heating as much as noise. To dissipate the heat properly it will have to push alot of air which will produce more noise. I would prefer not to have a loud console again like the original PS3 and 360s were.

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I had a PS3 3 years ago, need to go see if my gamer tag is still available.

I have never stood up and cheered while watching an E3 press event before but, I did it twice tonight. Once for the no DRM (GameFly still works!) and again for the price!

I feel kinda dumb for being so happy about a new console but, is just so excited. MS deserves all the bad press they can get, any company that is willing to create a product without the consumers best interest in mind deserves the backlash.

My top 5 wanted games are Watch Dogs, Battlefield 4, Destiny, MGS V and the Oddworld game. I want SW Battlefront to but, since EA didn't even list a year, who knows when it is coming.

Jack Tretton **** eating grin while giving a business 101 speech about severing customers was pretty amusing. Literally the first, golden rule of business.
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There goes my free HDMI cable....

LOL

Things to note. Publishers apparently love the PS4, as they claim they have 110 titles already lined up (not first yr of coerce)

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new IP, are under development,

We saw 3? Wonder if their studios are doing PSN stuff too though...
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Cmon how can you not be interested in a game based on Mad Max? Which looks like Road Warrior style Mad Max? I had no idea what it was, until, I saw the profile of that Australian Ford Falcon!! I'm such a car nut I recognized it right away, even did a little squeal and clap (don't tell anybody). Fingers crossed these guys "get it" and don't fock it up.

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I'll give it a shot. But I REALLY want a next Gen Fallout set in Boston.

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So it comes with a headset? Any pictures of it?


This is taken from the Playstation Blog's Flickr...


Trying to see from their pictures if there is anywhere to swap in/out the HDD...

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scaled to the CD disc slot , but slightly off perspective.



I really, really hope Sony designed a better heat dissipation system then the phat. Let's see the insides please.
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I wouldn't be as concerned with over heating as much as noise. To dissipate the heat properly it will have to push alot of air which will produce more noise. I would prefer not to have a loud console again like the original PS3 and 360s were.
I hope it isn't loud. That's one reason I sold my PS3 and bought a standalone BD player, couldn't stand hearing a vacuum cleaner while watching movies. I'm hoping the PS4 is quite, at least during BD movie playback, so I can get rid of my current BD player. I'm out of HDMI inputs so something has to go and I'm hoping I can hang on to my 360 for GTA 5, guess I could buy the component cable for the 360 and keep everything. Still hope the PS4 is quiet.

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Trying to see from their pictures if there is anywhere to swap in/out the HDD...

I hate to say it but.....I really dont see one.

No pictures of the underside though......so there's a ray of hope.

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So, these were all the PS4 exclusives?
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infamous second son
knack
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The order
KH3?
FFXV?

Seems Sony is leaving some stuff behind the door for later.

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So, thats how they keep it cool...

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Unless there's a slot on the bottom, there are not looking to be any openings.

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Back to basics?

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I also hope this thing is liquid cooled...

That thing is short and can only hold small fans, which are going to be not quiet.

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http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/130611b_e.pdf

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Automatic Patch Download
“Automatic patch download” feature will be further enhanced for the PS4™ system.
The system will check for any game updates more frequently and will also automatically
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in North America and Europe ($9.99 / €6.99).

$9.99 for 30 days vs the current $17.99 for 90 days.....I hope this doesnt signal a pretty significant price increase on the yearly sub.

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I hate to say it but.....I really dont see one.

No pictures of the underside though......so there's a ray of hope.


There's some kind of opening here...


Doesn't look like a slot for a HDD though.

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This is good news, no change in keeping it region free. More games for everyone!

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I don't think there is room at the back of that slot to insert a HDD, It looks more like a serial number sticker location.

It's possible that the glossy section to the left of the console/power button clips off, if the HDD is user upgradeable.

Does anyone know what plug the Playstation eye 2.0 has? is it going to fit in that AUX port? I would have like an additional rear USB port.

I can guarantee that the PS4 will be quiet when playing back Bluray and all other media, as all that encoding is done special hardware algorithms on die now, and with incredibly low power usage. Unlike the PS3 which did it by brute force.
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