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post #20161 of 20401 Old 07-07-2015, 08:14 AM
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The only thing I see that could make a nice difference is if they changed the BD drive. Because the current one is way to loud when playing a BD. Every PS4 I've seen has sounded the same with a BD in the drive.

According to the article there is a change to the Blu-ray drive. What that change is exactly, I have no idea.
I'm most interested in the lower power and possibly quieter fan on these new models.
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The new PS4 model has been remodelled, with the removal of the glossy plastics and the re-arrangement of the rear ports being just the tip of the iceberg. But that's on the outside. In the inside, however, Sony has fitted the revamped model with a new, smaller motherboard with its own set of changes.


Sony has applied considerable tweaks to earlier GDDR5 memory set-up, with major reconfigurations on offer. While the earlier PS4 model used a significant 16 memory modules to complement the 8GB support, the new CUH-1200 uses double-density Samsung modules to bring down the count to just eight, meaning reduced power consumption.


The primary processor in the new PS4 is still a 28nm chip, although there is a sort of change in design, but with similar physical dimensions. While Sony may have employed a more power efficient version of the 28nm process, it could still be the same chip at the core of it all.

The updated CUH-1200 model still harbours the usual 5400rpm HGST Z5K500 hard drive, although other areas have been subjected to notable changes. There's now a less-complicated Blu-ray drive design, with minor changes made to component arrangement with the replacement of some of the chips – for instance, the introduction of the Panasonic HDMI controller.

Small yet equally effective changes have also been made to the cooling assemblies all through the unit, although the main fan still remains the same. However, there's a new power supply at the helm of it, and it's 80g lighter and has a lower output, improving the power efficiency further.

According to reports circulating out of Japan for the new CUH-1200 model, the upgraded console's standby power is said to be anything from 30 to 50% lower than the launch unit, with as much as 11% more efficient main menu.

As far as power consumption during actual gameplay session is concerned, while the original launch unit drew 148.6W, the new CUH-1200 model cuts that down to an impressive 122W, showing an 18% drop and bringing down the power consumption to the same level as an Xbox One.

As far as overall fan-noise is concerned, this has been a burning issue for all those who currently own a PS4. But for the new CUH-1200 model, expect less noise out of the console's fan, thanks to the 18% drop in power consumption, with less heat generation, that we mentioned earlier.
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I am really going to be pissed if because of this they don't let us have it until the holidays. I already have a few pre-orders coming (1 next week, 1 in Sept., and 1 in Oct.) and my new hard drive on the way because I was under the impression that we were getting it soon (within a month). I'm not going to buy an "old" system now so I'm stuck in a waiting pattern.
I just found out about Prime day, sooo.....
My wife is literally going to scream at me at the end of the CC cycle.

Curious what preorders you have that are related to the PS4_2.0 (for real what are we calling it?)
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My son told me about Prime Day as he handed me a list of things and games he wants for his b-day next month.

I guess we'll call it PS4_2.0 until someone comes up with something wittier. I am not that someone.

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I just found out about Prime day, sooo.....
My wife is literally going to scream at me at the end of the CC cycle.

Curious what preorders you have that are related to the PS4_2.0 (for real what are we calling it?)
PS4 1.5 makes the most sense. PS4 2.0 would be a version with a shrink of the 28nm chip. Which would be a major revision.

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I hope I find something good on prime day.

Hardware revisions like this are welcomed, but not enough improvements to trade mine in for a new model.

My PS4 is pretty quiet. Definitely not loud at all.
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I find it interesting that they're getting rid of the glossy surfaces. They did the same with the PS3.
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I find it interesting that they're getting rid of the glossy surfaces. They did the same with the PS3.
I am glad they are. Glossy surfaces are finger print and dust magnets. They also scratch very easy even when you practically just breath on them. I wish glossy surfaces on electronics will go away and only have matted.

I just wish they have a matte faceplate I can use on my current PS4 to replace the finger print scratch easy glossy one.
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Before we start assuming new features, we should first understand that normally when changes are made to console hardware, it is done for cost savings, energy savings, and/or supplier changes. Sometimes it's done to address reliability issues, but this isn't an XBox.
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Im thinking the new "Panasonic HDMI controller" might mean HDMI 2.0a? The system launched with HDMI 1.4b I believe.
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The only thing is loud on my ps4 is the bd drive.
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PS4.5
The first was PS4.0. So this one is PS4.1.
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We can thank XBL for this. Had they not had success Sony wouldn't have bothered. From what i personally recall, save for a few titles, PS3 online was suspect most of the time. It is definitely a lot better this go around, hopefully due to our hostage dollars. I don't know how many games were available during PS3 era, but i personal appreciate what titles are offered, mainly because some games I completely forget about playing.







Should really give them a shot. Some might look like SNES titles, but they really are fun to play.







How are you DVR'ing with the PS3? Never knew this was a thing.

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Im thinking the new "Panasonic HDMI controller" might mean HDMI 2.0a? The system launched with HDMI 1.4b I believe.

I personally want another console for the bedroom and I wouldn't mind if the new ps4 has HDMI 2.0


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I just found out about Prime day, sooo.....
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The first was PS4.0. So this one is PS4.1.

Probably makes the most sense.

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The biggest news from this revision is the interface change for the hdd, if it works like a few of us think it will, SSD may no longer be bottlenecked and might actually be a major upgrade with this new model. That has me really interested.
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The biggest news from this revision is the interface change for the hdd, if it works like a few of us think it will, SSD may no longer be bottlenecked and might actually be a major upgrade with this new model. That has me really interested.
Even if they do update it to SATA III it's not going to make a meaningful difference.

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I am glad they are. Glossy surfaces are finger print and dust magnets. They also scratch very easy even when you practically just breath on them. I wish glossy surfaces on electronics will go away and only have matted.

I just wish they have a matte faceplate I can use on my current PS4 to replace the finger print scratch easy glossy one.
I never even touch my PS4. I turn it on and off with the controller. And I use digital titles.

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Even if they do update it to SATA III it's not going to make a meaningful difference.
The problem wasn't the sata connection, it was the sata to usb conversion that the old systems use, it really bottlenecked a SSD. That system is no longer in place, so SSD may see a massive gain. This is something that needs to be tested.
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The problem wasn't the sata connection, it was the sata to usb conversion that the old systems use, it really bottlenecked a SSD. That system is no longer in place, so SSD may see a massive gain. This is something that needs to be tested.

What SATA to USB conversion?

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4K support, especially a jump on 4K Blu-ray would make all the difference in the world. Period.
I bet Bluray support sold a lot of PS3s. I wonder what it would take? Is a hardware change needed for 4K?

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I purchased 30-40 games on the PS3 during it's entire lifespan compared to hundreds on Xbox, I only got maybe 30-40 hours of total gaming in on the PS3 total , but man....that Blu-ray player sure paid off. Primary video device seemingly forever...
That's an hour average per game. They were that bad? I got fewer games, but tended to play some of them a lot. Particularly with Playstation plus, it's easy to play a game for just an hour or less, but I try to be a bit selective with my purchases. Not all are winners, but I can think of ones that I didn't like so much that I still got a bit of gameplay out of. By not buying it on launch day, I always felt it had lots of games. I didn't buy the PS4 on launch day either, but I'm still waiting for more games to grab me. But even there, I'm making some use out of it. We even spent hours playing Knack, although it gets repetitive after a while.

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Yeah, I still use the Playstations for Bluray playing on the main TV -- I have a BR player, but it's on a separate TV.

Actually, I'd probably like 3D support for games more than 4K movies. *shrug*
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I thought PS4 was 2.0 hdmi but the hdcp 2.2 it is not
Sadly it's only 1.4b. What they need for UHD-BD is more specifically HDCP 2.2, and that actually requires hardware changes. I'm not positive if the implementation of HEVC/VP9 would require hardware or just a licensing firmware update, but if they could do that then they would at least get 4K streaming for it, just no physical content as that requires HDMI/HDCP.

HDMI 1.4b is actually enough bandwidth for 8 channel PCM/4K/30hz but I don't believe there is enough throughput left over for 3D audio (Atmos/DTS:X), Wide color gamut 10Bit DCI-P3, and HDR metadata which is why they went with the larger bandwidth spec since majority of UHD-BD will be graded using those parameters.

The 60hz part of the 18Gbps pipeline is more for PC use and possibly sports. I don't foresee that many if any HFR titles being released.

I'm very disappointed that there wasn't any announcements for either console being fully UHD ready. I seriously don't want to buy a $500~ standalone player for my disc/streaming UHD needs.
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