PlayStation 4 - Page 673 - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews
Baselworld is only a few weeks away. Getting the latest news is easy, Click Here for info on how to join the Watchuseek.com newsletter list. Follow our team for updates featuring event coverage, new product unveilings, watch industry news & more!


Forum Jump: 
Reply
Thread Tools
post #20161 of 20174 Old Today, 07:02 AM
AVS Special Member
 
icelt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,125
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 531 Post(s)
Liked: 413
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Imp View Post
I fully admit I'm an impatient person, but I'm really starting to get a little annoyed. Not at you guys, but at those who should be in the know (Sony & Playstation experts) who STILL cannot give me an answer on when we are seeing these being release in North America.


Japan got it June 15th and Europe is getting it July 15th. Why can't anyone answer a simple question that they have to know by now and say when we are getting these?
Because the manufacturer (Sony) and the retailers (Walmart, Gamestop, Amazon, Best But, etc) like to sell as much of the consoles already in the sales channel and in stock as possible prior to introducing a new SKU. It's annoying but rational on their part to limit release date information until absolutely necessary.
icelt is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #20162 of 20174 Old Today, 07:42 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Tom Imp's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 2,283
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 117 Post(s)
Liked: 98
Quote:
Originally Posted by icelt View Post
Because the manufacturer (Sony) and the retailers (Walmart, Gamestop, Amazon, Best But, etc) like to sell as much of the consoles already in the sales channel and in stock as possible prior to introducing a new SKU. It's annoying but rational on their part to limit release date information until absolutely necessary.

I am really going to be pissed if because of this they don't let us have it until the holidays. I already have a few pre-orders coming (1 next week, 1 in Sept., and 1 in Oct.) and my new hard drive on the way because I was under the impression that we were getting it soon (within a month). I'm not going to buy an "old" system now so I'm stuck in a waiting pattern.

Last edited by Tom Imp; Today at 07:46 AM.
Tom Imp is offline  
post #20163 of 20174 Old Today, 08:02 AM
AVS Club Gold
 
aaronwt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Northern VA(Woodbridge)
Posts: 23,309
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1688 Post(s)
Liked: 1021
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Imp View Post
I am really going to be pissed if because of this they don't let us have it until the holidays. I already have a few pre-orders coming (1 next week, 1 in Sept., and 1 in Oct.) and my new hard drive on the way because I was under the impression that we were getting it soon (within a month). I'm not going to buy an "old" system now so I'm stuck in a waiting pattern.
If there was a die shrink I would be excited. But these are only incremental improvements. With a die shrink there would be much lower power usage. When that happens I will pick up a second PS4. The changes they made are really nothing to get excited about.

The only thing I see that could make a nice difference is if they changed the BD drive. Because the current one is way to loud when playing a BD. Every PS4 I've seen has sounded the same with a BD in the drive.

53TB unRAID2--38TB unRAID3--33TB unRAID1a
LED DLP
XBL/PSN: WormholeXtreme
aaronwt is offline  
post #20164 of 20174 Old Today, 08:14 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Tom Imp's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 2,283
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 117 Post(s)
Liked: 98
Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post
The only thing I see that could make a nice difference is if they changed the BD drive. Because the current one is way to loud when playing a BD. Every PS4 I've seen has sounded the same with a BD in the drive.

According to the article there is a change to the Blu-ray drive. What that change is exactly, I have no idea.
I'm most interested in the lower power and possibly quieter fan on these new models.
Tom Imp is offline  
post #20165 of 20174 Old Today, 09:21 AM
Advanced Member
 
TedSeattle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 980
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 36 Post(s)
Liked: 92
More details about the new model:

Quote:
The new PS4 model has been remodelled, with the removal of the glossy plastics and the re-arrangement of the rear ports being just the tip of the iceberg. But that's on the outside. In the inside, however, Sony has fitted the revamped model with a new, smaller motherboard with its own set of changes.


Sony has applied considerable tweaks to earlier GDDR5 memory set-up, with major reconfigurations on offer. While the earlier PS4 model used a significant 16 memory modules to complement the 8GB support, the new CUH-1200 uses double-density Samsung modules to bring down the count to just eight, meaning reduced power consumption.


The primary processor in the new PS4 is still a 28nm chip, although there is a sort of change in design, but with similar physical dimensions. While Sony may have employed a more power efficient version of the 28nm process, it could still be the same chip at the core of it all.

The updated CUH-1200 model still harbours the usual 5400rpm HGST Z5K500 hard drive, although other areas have been subjected to notable changes. There's now a less-complicated Blu-ray drive design, with minor changes made to component arrangement with the replacement of some of the chips – for instance, the introduction of the Panasonic HDMI controller.

Small yet equally effective changes have also been made to the cooling assemblies all through the unit, although the main fan still remains the same. However, there's a new power supply at the helm of it, and it's 80g lighter and has a lower output, improving the power efficiency further.

According to reports circulating out of Japan for the new CUH-1200 model, the upgraded console's standby power is said to be anything from 30 to 50% lower than the launch unit, with as much as 11% more efficient main menu.

As far as power consumption during actual gameplay session is concerned, while the original launch unit drew 148.6W, the new CUH-1200 model cuts that down to an impressive 122W, showing an 18% drop and bringing down the power consumption to the same level as an Xbox One.

As far as overall fan-noise is concerned, this has been a burning issue for all those who currently own a PS4. But for the new CUH-1200 model, expect less noise out of the console's fan, thanks to the 18% drop in power consumption, with less heat generation, that we mentioned earlier.
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/sony-playst...upgrade-638373
tampabuc likes this.
TedSeattle is online now  
post #20166 of 20174 Old Today, 11:51 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Cravit8's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,757
Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 950 Post(s)
Liked: 512
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Imp View Post
I am really going to be pissed if because of this they don't let us have it until the holidays. I already have a few pre-orders coming (1 next week, 1 in Sept., and 1 in Oct.) and my new hard drive on the way because I was under the impression that we were getting it soon (within a month). I'm not going to buy an "old" system now so I'm stuck in a waiting pattern.
I just found out about Prime day, sooo.....
My wife is literally going to scream at me at the end of the CC cycle.

Curious what preorders you have that are related to the PS4_2.0 (for real what are we calling it?)
tampabuc and Nayan like this.

PSN: Cravit8
XBL: oOo_Crav_oOo
Cravit8 is online now  
post #20167 of 20174 Old Today, 12:01 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Nayan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Melbourne, FL
Posts: 2,816
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 179 Post(s)
Liked: 356
My son told me about Prime Day as he handed me a list of things and games he wants for his b-day next month.

I guess we'll call it PS4_2.0 until someone comes up with something wittier. I am not that someone.

You know you're getting old when the candles on your birthday cake cost more than the cake itself. Crap I say
Nayan is offline  
post #20168 of 20174 Old Today, 02:12 PM
AVS Club Gold
 
aaronwt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Northern VA(Woodbridge)
Posts: 23,309
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1688 Post(s)
Liked: 1021
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cravit8 View Post
I just found out about Prime day, sooo.....
My wife is literally going to scream at me at the end of the CC cycle.

Curious what preorders you have that are related to the PS4_2.0 (for real what are we calling it?)
PS4 1.5 makes the most sense. PS4 2.0 would be a version with a shrink of the 28nm chip. Which would be a major revision.

53TB unRAID2--38TB unRAID3--33TB unRAID1a
LED DLP
XBL/PSN: WormholeXtreme
aaronwt is offline  
post #20169 of 20174 Old Today, 02:15 PM
AVS Special Member
 
ambesolman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 4,313
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 701 Post(s)
Liked: 611
PS4.5


Sent using Tapatalk since the mobile version is still [emoji107]
ambesolman is online now  
post #20170 of 20174 Old Today, 02:49 PM
Senior Member
 
Radio81's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 338
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 27 Post(s)
Liked: 34
I hope I find something good on prime day.

Hardware revisions like this are welcomed, but not enough improvements to trade mine in for a new model.

My PS4 is pretty quiet. Definitely not loud at all.
Radio81 is offline  
post #20171 of 20174 Old Today, 02:58 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Soulburner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,477
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 194 Post(s)
Liked: 216
I find it interesting that they're getting rid of the glossy surfaces. They did the same with the PS3.
Soulburner is online now  
post #20172 of 20174 Old Today, 03:01 PM
AVS Special Member
 
reddice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 2,269
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 366 Post(s)
Liked: 77
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulburner View Post
I find it interesting that they're getting rid of the glossy surfaces. They did the same with the PS3.
I am glad they are. Glossy surfaces are finger print and dust magnets. They also scratch very easy even when you practically just breath on them. I wish glossy surfaces on electronics will go away and only have matted.

I just wish they have a matte faceplate I can use on my current PS4 to replace the finger print scratch easy glossy one.
Nayan likes this.

EarthLink Extreme powered by Time Warner Cable Brooklyn.
ASUS RT-N66W Router 374.43_2 (Merlin Fork) using OpenDNS.
Toshiba 39L2300U (My Bedroom) - Amazon Fire TV, Apple TV 3, Sony PS4.
Toshiba 32RV530U (Living Room) - Amazon Fire TV, Sony PS3 Slim.
Cats are the best pets.

Last edited by reddice; Today at 03:12 PM.
reddice is offline  
post #20173 of 20174 Old Today, 07:13 PM
AVS Special Member
 
tampabuc's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,150
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 311 Post(s)
Liked: 249
This PS4 console revision is awesome news...and yes, my current console sucks, thought I was stuck with it but I love the idea of a warrantee replacement. Thanks!


With this announcement, Sony has the potential to take the lead on streaming/ownership of 4K content at home. Key call-out: HDMI Controller Change. TBD on what that really means.


It all kind of makes sense. The only reason to own a PS console in the past decade+ was for blu-ray.


In a perfect (Sony) world...this console would be mandated for access to any 4K content but all of the latest "smart+4K" TVs already do that.


However, in reality, 4K content is currently limited to lame-ass YouTube or Netflix crap. There could be an unexpected twist we are not expecting like early/local downloads/ownership of new release movies that will bypass crappy streaming.


Better yet.....might this console revision actually work as a 4K Blu-ray player? SERIOUSLY DOUBTFUL, BUT WISHFUL THINKING.


NOTE: The X1 was due a hardware revision as well, rumored a few months back - nothing more than the HDMI Controller compatibility, just for 4K Video Streaming capability. But....no update recently.

Last edited by tampabuc; Today at 07:30 PM.
tampabuc is online now  
post #20174 of 20174 Unread Today, 07:51 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Soulburner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,477
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 194 Post(s)
Liked: 216
Before we start assuming new features, we should first understand that normally when changes are made to console hardware, it is done for cost savings, energy savings, and/or supplier changes. Sometimes it's done to address reliability issues, but this isn't an XBox.
Soulburner is online now  
Reply PlayStation Area

Tags
Playstation 3 160gb System , Playstation 4 Camera , Playstation 4 Console , Playstation 4 Dualshock 4 Wireless Controller , Playstation 4 Games , Sony
Gear in this thread - 160gb by PriceGrabber.com

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off