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post #2071 of 18601 Old 06-11-2013, 05:44 PM
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Same thing on the Xbox One. They have the day one batch, which is sold out, then the standard one, which is 12/31. Im sure once the initial expected batch was gone, you are forced to preorder standard and wait.

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Edit: never mind. It says I ordered the launch edition when I click on it and not the standard.

Woo hoo. I see the same thing. I did not notice the header at the top that says I already purchased the launch version.

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Amazon could be a little less confusing there. I did not even know they were gonna have two versions like Xbox was.

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Apparently launch editions are day one delivery while the standards are first come, first serve...
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Amazon could be a little less confusing there. I did not even know they were gonna have two versions like Xbox was.

Same version, they've just sold out of their initial allotment, so they named that the launch version, and are calling all orders after that the standard version to differentiate and let people ordering currently know they won't get it on launch day.

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i am not much of a tech guy (i know seems crazy i am on this forum!), but can someone explain to me in short bullet points the benefits to the cloud when it comes to gaming? thanks..
It's a bit easier to digest if you understand that gaming influenced by cloud tech has been around for a long, long time but only recently picked up its marketing name. There are two main types to be aware of right now:

Cloud streaming, which is when a remote server does all the gaming magic that your console usually does, encodes the action into a digital video which is then streamed directly to your console which then simply plays it back for you to see.

As you deliver inputs with your controller to affecs game play, your control signals are beamed to the server processing your game, makes adjustments and sends the updated visual feed back to you.Kinda like a YouTube stream whose action you can influence. Gaikai tech for the PlayStation machines will operate in this manner.

The other is Cloud processing, in which remote game servers are directly involved with the gaming magic that your console is doing as you play. Your console needs some work to be done (graphical, CPU processing, etc.), it sends the jobs to the remote server which then works on its assignments before sending the results back to your console for use. The console then has to weave the results into whatever it is doing so the player can benefit from it.

Needless to say, because of the limits of physics and sometimes unreliability of internet traffic, there are strong limitations as to what can be done with Cloud processing in an ction game setting. Either the developer has to have a Plan B ready for when the results are messed up or never arrive, or they only give the servers jobs where timing is a non-issue.

Cloud processing can be seen in many current games, though the fancy title hasn't been used for it. In Tekken Tag Tournament 2 for instance, everytime I go online for a new session, the game dloads the game play styles of other human opponents around the 'net. So if I decide to play the special one-player mode, I will fight against characters where the A..I. replicates the tactics that real people have used.

So because Cloud processing is so specific to whatever a developer is doing, it is not a console-specific feature at all. Any game maker can (and will, at least in MMOs) have Cloud processing plugged into their title provided they are willing to pay for the remote server processing to do it AND have specced out how to not impact action game play, or the processing to be done is so limited and shallow that a ton of gamers' needs can be working on calculations on each individual server (i.e. the Tekken example).

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The standard version of the PlayStation 4 is identical to the Launch Edition. Due to high demand, we cannot guarantee Release-Date Delivery on the standard version of the PlayStation 4. We will deliver the standard version of PlayStation 4 as close to its release date as possible.

Also, woot-woot. I got the launch version!

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The standard version of the PlayStation 4 is identical to the Launch Edition. Due to high demand, we cannot guarantee Release-Date Delivery on the standard version of the PlayStation 4. We will deliver the standard version of PlayStation 4 as close to its release date as possible.

Also, woot-woot. I got the launch version!

Yeah, I just preordered the **** out of titles and accessories.

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Im surprised theyd actually "know" how many theyd have for launch.

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The standard version of the PlayStation 4 is identical to the Launch Edition. Due to high demand, we cannot guarantee Release-Date Delivery on the standard version of the PlayStation 4. We will deliver the standard version of PlayStation 4 as close to its release date as possible.

Also, woot-woot. I got the launch version!

Nice, me too! I guess that implies we're getting it on launch day....sweet.

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Yeah, I just preordered the **** out of titles and accessories.

You havent see a blu-ray remote have you lol? Thatd be what Id order.

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Just checked my Amazon receipt. It does have a Launch Edition label. So I guess I'm good to go on day one.

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i am not much of a tech guy (i know seems crazy i am on this forum!), but can someone explain to me in short bullet points the benefits to the cloud when it comes to gaming? thanks..

- We have no clue (Hell MS had no clue!). MS said they want to offload game code calcs to the cloud, but no one really seems to have a straight answer of what can and can't be done with that. Certainly nothing important that needs to be render quickly, or is needed immediately by a game.

With Sony when they're talking about the cloud they're pretty much talking about digital titles on demand, cloud storage (saves) and their Gakai game streaming service which will render games on a client in the cloud and stream them to your PS4 sort of like a emulate on the internet. Thats how they're going to provide PS1-3 BC.
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Just checked my Amazon receipt. It does have a Launch Edition label. So I guess I'm good to go on day one.

Where does it say? Mine has no qualifier on the receipt it seems.

If I got to the PS4 page and click launch unit it says I already bought it though (not when clicking standard)
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You havent see a blu-ray remote have you lol? Thatd be what Id order.

I have the Harmony converter. Will that no longer work?

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I have the Harmony converter. Will that no longer work?

Good point. Not sure.

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It's a slot loader just like the older PS3s. On the left hand side in the groove

I was curious on this, glad to see it. I hate the Super Slim.

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Sorry if this has already been posted.

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Angle of the handles looks better, seems it'll fit in your hand more ergonomically, and is that soft plastic? Quite a bit larger too.
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Here's a nice tech demo of the Eye and DS4:

http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/11/lets-take-a-closer-look-at-the-playstation-4-dualshock-4-and-p

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That would be great. Any link to this info?


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Can Sony say No? (guess they did with free online)


Been seeing this on TV since last night (the shorter version):

Much better than this:
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It is a sharp remote.

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That morph makes me excited, I want that controller right now!

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Anyone hear anything about compatibility for accessories?

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I don't understand why any of the console companies don't make of their next gen peripherals compatible with their current gen. It would be easy with system updates being standard nowadays.

Imagine if you could buy the new Dualshock right now or the new PS eye now and it would work with your PS3. It would be that much more incentive to stay within that same company's framework.
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I don't understand why any of the console companies don't make of their to be release next gen peripherals compatible with their current gen. Imagine if you could buy the new Dualshock now or the new PS eye now and it would work with your PS3. It would be that much more incentive to stay within that same company's framework.

Yeah, but less of a reason to step up to the new platform.

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