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The PlayStation 4 was released on November 15th, 2013 in North America (and two weeks later in Europe) for $399. Here are the specs:

  • Main Processor: Single chip custom processor. CPU is an x86-64 AMD "Jaguar", 8 cores.

  • Graphic Processor: GPU is an AMD next-generation Radeon graphics engine rated at 1.84 teraflops with 18 unified Compute Units.

  • Memory: 8GB GDDR5 with 176GB/s bandwidth.

  • Hard Drive: 500 GB, replaceable with any standard notebook HDD

  • Optical Drive (read only): BD 6x CAV, DVD 8x CAV

  • I/O: Super-Speed USB 3.0, Aux (for PS4 Eye)

  • Communication: Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T), IEEE 802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth 2.1 (EDR)

  • AV Output: HDMI, Analogue AV out, optical digital audio output

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Here's a full list of current PS4 games, as well as all of the announced upcoming titles with video preview links when available.

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The PS4 comes with a new DualShock 4 controller and a headset. The PS3's Move works with the system, and a new PS Camera with dual lenses and increased resolution is sold separately for $60. As a nice bonus, any PS4 game that doesn't have motion control features can be played on the Vita handheld for no extra charge (remote WiFi or over the internet).

Other known tidbits include not having PS3 compatibility except through future Gaikai streaming technology (PSOne and PS2 games as well). Streaming tech also allows you to broadcast as you play, and the system auto records 15 minutes of play at all times, though you can record an entire session manually if you wish.

You don't need to be online to use the PS4, and the system will not block used/rented games. All retail games can be downloaded on the launch day of the title. PlayStation Plus is required to play games online, but not to access media apps or to enjoy offline free-to-play games. The PS4 also allows you to play games you are downloading or installing before you get the entire content.

Up to four different accounts on a PS4 can play simultaneously and share all content, including PS+ stuff, for no extra charge. After designating a primary PS4, you can also share all of your digital content for free with at least one designated secondary PS4 that has logged into your account as long as you are with PS+. So if you and your brother have your own PS4s, have his unit set to be your primary machine and do the opposite for the one you own. That way, you both can enjoy one purchased copy of any digital title as much as you want.

Oh, and be sure to check out this PS4 voice control video. One feature it doesn't mention is that from the UI screen you can tap the L2 button to replace saying the word "PlayStation" in order to open up the voice command options.

System launch titles included Killzone: Shadow Fall, Knack, DriveClub, Watch Dogs, (both are delayed until 2014) and Battlefield 4, as well as some PSN downloads like Resogun and The Pinball Arcade. PS+ members will got Resogun and Contrast for free.

Link to the Official PlayStation 4 FAQ

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8GB 176GB/s Unified memory

I'm not sure how they pulled that off after rumors of 2GB and 4GB, but nice.

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8GB 176GB/s Unified memory

I'm not sure how they pulled that off after rumors of 2GB and 4GB, but nice.

5 years from now, we'll be glad they did. If it really was a last minute upgrade, none of the games we've seen even begin to take advantage of it.

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5 years from now, we'll be glad they did. If it really was a last minute upgrade, none of the games we've seen even begin to take advantage of it.

Exactly.
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I'm a little underwhelmed.

No price
No exact date
No actual images of the console itself!!!!

Way drawn out for what they showed.

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They focused on games the entire time. I am more than satisfied.

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The first post now has a summary of the notes I posted in the conference thread. If I missed anything important, let me know.

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I'm a little underwhelmed.

No price
No exact date
No actual images of the console itself!!!!

Way drawn out for what they showed.

The idea was to show off the developers that they have lined up to work with them on this, and the basics of the hardware in the system. Also wanted to show off their social networking integration. All of this so that Microsoft is now forced to up them when they make their announcement later on. After that, Sony will then go and release further information at E3 and be able to counter what MS comes out with.

It's all a game of media poker, so to speak. Make your bet, see what your opponent does, then re-raise him if he raises you.
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Not everyone cares about social networking. I spend 0% of my time on Facebook or Twitter. 0. I've never seen a Twitter page, ever. I could be wrong, but I've always considered the PS3 to be the grown-up's system. I've always considered the 360 what the kids play. I do realize there is a big youth (or youth-minded) community on the PS3, I've been on Home, but I still have always thought we have a more mature audience on the PS3. I don't really know if a lot of people are going to care much about having Facebook integration.
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Not everyone cares about social networking. I spend 0% of my time on Facebook or Twitter. 0. I've never seen a Twitter page, ever. I could be wrong, but I've always considered the PS3 to be the grown-up's system. I've always considered the 360 what the kids play. I do realize there is a big youth (or youth-minded) community on the PS3, I've been on Home, but I still have always thought we have a more mature audience on the PS3. I don't really know if a lot of people are going to care much about having Facebook integration.

I FULLY agree. I HATE Facebook and all that social stuff with a passion. I am hoping that you will not be required to have some type of Facebook account in order to make use of some of the features. I'm pretty sure that you'll be able to go without it though. There are reasons to keep anonymity out there. (I'm guessing that your real name will only be shown to people on your friends list).
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Its just a feature. You don't have to use those features but its great they have all of that out there if you want to.

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More detailed PS4 tech info can be found here and here and here.

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I hope you are right Jamieva. I am seeing more and more websites and applications that say "Log in with your Facebook account". No way.
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Some details, but not as much as I'd hoped for. I'd like to know about pricing, firm release date, and additional details ie media streaming capabilities, ssd storage, ir remote support.
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ir remote support.

There's one I didn't think about. Would be nice to be able to use my Harmony remotes without a $40-$50 Logitech interpreter.
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I FULLY agree. I HATE Facebook and all that social stuff with a passion. I am hoping that you will not be required to have some type of Facebook account in order to make use of some of the features. I'm pretty sure that you'll be able to go without it though. There are reasons to keep anonymity out there. (I'm guessing that your real name will only be shown to people on your friends list).

My hope is they build it out of the PSN, and only allow you to link it and access it through facebook, mobile web, ect. If you start thinking about it as leaderboards, clans, forums, stat tracking, detailed profiles, ect... there's A LOT they can do in a gaming centric way that is very useful to most of us.

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Sounds impressive! Any mention of 4k support?

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Sounds impressive! Any mention of 4k support?

Not during the presentation. I don't think there are enough televisions out there which support 4k resolution items at this point in time to make it something that would warrant an announcement yet. (I believe that when the PS3 first came out and the HD-DVD/Blu-Ray war was going on, HDTVs were widely distributed already. Also, the war was still going on and I think Sony's PS3 announcement of the Blu-Ray drive kind of helped end that "war").
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More detailed PS4 tech info can be found here and here and here.

-Through PS4, users are able to deepen their connections through co-op play or “cross-game chat”. As expected.

-Additionally, users can boot a variety of applications including a web browser when playing a game on PS4. Neat, although even a Vita can do this nowadays.

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I tip my hat to Sony. That PS4 reveal was a hell of a lot better than the PS3 IMO. They showed playable games instead of target renders like that infamous one for KZ2. I also applaud them for using more standardized hardware instead of going with some esoteric architecture disaster the Cell turned out to be. Sony sunk a fortune to into creating it and it wasn't exactly easy to make make games for it. The Cell unit was long ago jettisoned by the company. Also, 8GB of DDR5? Nice!
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I think Sony also did a good job of subtly hyping up their Vita. I foresee a lot of people going out and getting a Vita or two in anticipation of using it on/with their PS4.
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I think Sony also did a good job of subtly hyping up their Vita. I foresee a lot of people going out and getting a Vita or two in anticipation of using it on/with their PS4.
I'm one of those people. Between that and all the free games for it on ps+, I would get my money out of it.

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Not during the presentation. I don't think there are enough televisions out there which support 4k resolution items at this point in time to make it something that would warrant an announcement yet. (I believe that when the PS3 first came out and the HD-DVD/Blu-Ray war was going on, HDTVs were widely distributed already. Also, the war was still going on and I think Sony's PS3 announcement of the Blu-Ray drive kind of helped end that "war").

Thanks and you have some great points.

Was also curious about the reduced lag detail as far as the DS4 controller. Is lag an issue with the DS3? I have not noticed any lag issues, but I am not super sensitive to lag in general.

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Between remote play, one button off/on gaming, and transferring sessions between devices'; it's going to make some gaming dad's out there very happy. Wife or kids need the TV? Commuting to work? Baby had a blowout?

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Thanks and you have some great points.

Was also curious about the reduced lag detail as far as the DS4 controller. Is lag an issue with the DS3? I have not noticed any lag issues, but I am not super sensitive to lag in general.

Lag isnt an issue with the DS3, but I'm all for them striving to improve it in every way.

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So does anyone want to fathom a guess as to price?
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So does anyone want to fathom a guess as to price?

I'm going to say $450 for the tiny HDD / non included eye version, which will put it at the inflation adjusted price of the original Playstation ($300 in 1994, $450 in 2012 dollars)

Which is more than reasonable if these specs are final IMO. Smartphones are being sold for $500-700 MSRP after all.
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I'm going to say $450 for the tiny HDD / non included eye version, which will put it at the inflation adjusted price of the original Playstation ($300 in 1994, $450 in 2012 dollars)

Which is more than reasonable if these specs are final IMOSmartphones are being sold for $500-700 MSRP after allall.

Yes but most people dont pay MSRP for phones. They get one for a couple hundred or less with a plan from a cell provider. I paid $250 for a Galazy S3 a week after it was released.
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So does anyone want to fathom a guess as to price?

Those extra 4GB of RAM really tilt me towards $450, although there's still the possibility Sony just eats the cost for a while.

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Yes but most people dont pay MSRP for phones. They get one for a couple hundred or less with a plan from a cell provider. I paid $250 for a Galazy S3 a week after it was released.

And you end up paying more for it by being tied down to a 2 year contract (~$2500+ in future charges) and shelling out overpriced warranty and damage coverage. Just cause it's over 2 years doesn't mean you're not paying for that discount. They don't do it that way just out of the kindness of their hearts.

More and more people are finding it cheaper and smarter (if you like upgrading) to ditch the discounts and just go with pay as you go providers, or monthly plans. In the long run, you save some serious cash.
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