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In order to get into the Killzone tuesday room 2 people need to join. So basically the first person will be sitting at the waiting screen until a 2nd trys joining. Once we get 2 people in the the room, the room should start to fill up. But without those 2 first people it could be a bust, because no one wants to sit at a waiting screen. I can play at any time tonight. About what time will someone else be jumping on, so I am not wasting too much time at the waiting screen.smile.gif

What time do you start? I could probably do it tonight, you'll have fresh meat to kill as I have only played online one night for KZ so far biggrin.gif I have to wait until at least 845pm PST (have to put kids in bed).

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The group usually goes live around 5pm PST, I generally get in mid-match.

Think we west coast/central guys should keep the room rolling after the EST guys log off. Gives us a chance to avoid Tryant, Nex, Conspiracy, Machines etc and not feel like fodder tongue.gif
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ah, I may be too late then. I'll fire it up and see if there are any still playing by the time I get on.
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The group usually goes live around 5pm PST, I generally get in mid-match.

Think we west coast/central guys should keep the room rolling after the EST guys log off. Gives us a chance to avoid Tryant, Nex, Conspiracy, Machines etc and not feel like fodder tongue.gif

Don't forget Will!

Rev said he's game for tonight and bringing a friend as well. 730-8EST is usually when we join, but the better the first showing the longer we typically play. Did we conclude it lagged less with Nexus starting, or should I just start the room up?

I'll be a bit rusty as I haven't gamed in a week. Make your shots count smile.gif
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^^

Says "rusty"; means he will be face-rolling in 5mins time...

Not sure will has killed me enough times yet, but I'm sure he isn't far off. All you guys are good, actually makes dying feel less frustrating because I slowly learn what I am doing wrong.

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I'm not really sure who started the room last time. Redd joined at the same time so it could have been either of us. I no care. Will be on but may be laggy waiting on the BF patch to finish. May also snag Strider....
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I'll try joining around 7:30 est then. I do not have the bandwidth to host, so if I don't get into the room right away I will back out.

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There is an update, so make it 8 est.... hopefully

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Wow, like the new setup and Online Friends menu.

I'll start up to room soon: http://shadowfall.killzone.com/warzone/TyrantII#warzone=36a503d8-dc2c-40ac-ac7c-5a62541b601b
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Thank you whoever was hosting. That lag made me look like a rock star, lol!

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Its all that packet loss. Probably retransmittimg the same info over and over.
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So, I have no way to ping the KZ servers, but I did have a low ping BF server IP address I was pinging. This is what I saw on my end doing so when it started going downhill:



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This is when it went to all hell breaking loose


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Can anyone tell me what this is all about? I'll post some videos once I have them cut. Wonder if the BF guys are having issues too?

DDOS attack on comcast / time warner?
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Looks like whatever/where ever that level3 network device is at was getting hammered by something or someone to the point you were losing so much packet traffic. I know when I got home this evening our comcast (tv and basic cable) were down for about 30mins, possibly longer. May have been widespread as one of my office's ISP was down and couldn't even maintain their own network. Interesting that the routers didn't find another route to send all the traffic as it got worse.

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Can anyone tell me what this is all about? I'll post some videos once I have them cut. Wonder if the BF guys are having issues too?

DDOS attack on comcast / time warner?

That's horrible. I haven't been logging any stats, so I don't know if I have packet loss as well. Probably a good idea to check since I get lag as much as the next guy, but not as much as you!

But if did have packet loss I would investigate by isolating the problem.

First you have to clear your devices to make sure it's not your PC, router, or modem causing the problems. The PC could have a firewall causing the problems, but if you get the same results on other computers then you can assume it's not the PC.

Run without a router.

Swap the modem with a loaner to eliminate the modem as the source of the problem.

When you've cleared each device, then the next step will monitoring your connection for extended periods of time to find the source of the loss. Probably a good idea to have your ISP roll a truck at this point and do the monitoring for you since you've already trouble shot the basic stuff, and you know it won't be a problem with your setup. There are also web based services that will do that type of monitoring for free. I think you can do it yourself with a program like Wireshark, although I never used the app.

 
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Wireshark is awesome but over my head. I use it at work from time to time but the depth of the info it generates is serious.

My modem has been flaky and I've had to reset it a couple times in the last week so I took part of our tax refund and invested in a new modem and router. The old modem is over 5 years old and only a DOCSIS 2.0 so its time. I will be curious to see if anything improves on my end.
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DOCSIS 3 modem made a huge difference when I upgraded many moons ago. Not sure anything can help overcome crappy dedicated servers, but you should see full download speeds 24/7.

 
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I'm curious if any of that loss was anything on my end, most likely not but never know. I get some extra bandwidth available by updating the modem and the wireless has some nice features like a guest account that will come in handy so its no loss to me. Plus upgraded cable specs so it all should wind up better.
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So far right at 29 down and 6 up with the modem. Will change the router later. Want to see how this goes first.
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I am considering getting the game soon, but I didn't really care for the free demo weekend. Is there a setup that allows me to move quicker? I like to play aggressive and rush objectives and I always felt too slow to pull that off when I played.

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I am considering getting the game soon, but I didn't really care for the free demo weekend. Is there a setup that allows me to move quicker? I like to play aggressive and rush objectives and I always felt too slow to pull that off when I played.

Assault class has a sprint ability.
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Only one class of soldiers ever learned how to run?

Lol they all run but there's a really fast run ability one has.
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You try running with 80lbs of gear!

Running is overrated anyways. Sticking to walls and cover, while keep moving, is a better strategy in the game. At least in Warzone, since loose battlelines tend to form around the objectives.
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First you have to clear your devices to make sure it's not your PC, router, or modem causing the problems. The PC could have a firewall causing the problems, but if you get the same results on other computers then you can assume it's not the PC.

Run without a router.

Swap the modem with a loaner to eliminate the modem as the source of the problem.

When you've cleared each device, then the next step will monitoring your connection for extended periods of time to find the source of the loss. Probably a good idea to have your ISP roll a truck at this point and do the monitoring for you since you've already trouble shot the basic stuff, and you know it won't be a problem with your setup. There are also web based services that will do that type of monitoring for free. I think you can do it yourself with a program like Wireshark, although I never used the app.

I do need to get a Comcast guy out there eventually to see what they say, but haven't had the time to with the job and their damn hours. So far I've cleared everything to the modem. Up/Down signal on the modem is well within tolerance as well. PC gaming I never have issue with, funny enough which leads me to believe it how one of these pipe providers with comcast handles console gaming packets (which are mostly flagged as P2P I believe). Level3 seems to be a culprit with packet loss, and a few weeks ago I noticed Ping spikes to 180MS every 60 seconds or so using this program.

I always wonder if I'm just expecting too much from console MP though, but I can't shake the feeling that even when everything is running pretty well that I'm having lag issues (shot behind a wall, losing battles, others ghosting, ect). Unfortunately most console games don't give pings counts or connection status. TLOU did and most of the time I had 0-1 bars, or if appeared that it made me the host, I'd have 4 and everyone else 0-1.
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I am considering getting the game soon, but I didn't really care for the free demo weekend. Is there a setup that allows me to move quicker? I like to play aggressive and rush objectives and I always felt too slow to pull that off when I played.
As others have said the assault class has a sprint ability. And there is a semi-auto shotgun for the assault class. I only run sprint for certain objectives, but you could certainly run that all the time as long as someone else is throwing spawns. This is a sci-fi shooter so I'll let it go, but the sprint ability is unrealistically fast.smile.gif

I think Best Buy might have the game on sale for $40 this week.

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I'm addicted to sprint. Can't seem to play any other class as a result.

Sprint is a major advantage imho. Your character moves blazing fast which makes for a difficult target. You can run up on players and melee them before they have time to react. And best of all it takes only like 10 seconds to get back into the action after spawning.

 
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Sprint is a must for "beacon retrieval" and "beacon theft" objectives! I also use it for the "capture and move" objective. Its a toss up between sprint and spawn in the "capture and hold" objective.

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I hate being on the other team and seeing you go flying by

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