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dbailey75's Avatar dbailey75
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So all the new maps are basically Flood Zone?
naw, there's just access to more buildings and you can use the roof tops to get around, but the streets are very narrow, so it will limit the snipers view. I don't see these any differently than Azadi Palace or Markaz Monolith, these maps were a little larger than say Pearl market. but with the objectives closer together, you can really rack up points.

I don't believe there's a commander role either, so this really does help.
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Pearl Market is very similar to Flood Zone as it is multiple buildings, multiple openings, and narrow walkways. The rest no. Pearl Market seems very CoD-esque, and it has my favorite thing ever... VERTICAL GAMEPLAY! But CaptDan is right, the walkways are very narrow, so you can hide from a lot of the rooftop guys and dip in and out of buildings. Those building codes in Asia are crazy, they require so many doorways.

I'll play them again, probably tonight and tomorrow night, and see if I change my mind. I can be too negative about this game (I feel justified given that I purchased the game and premium, and for being such a loyal customer I have been rewarded with a glitchy, unpolished game), so I will give it a few shots before I just write it off.

When are the CTE improvements going to actually be implemented in the game? From everything I hear, the CTE improvements (reduced screen shake, reduced sway on low power optics, better net code, removed commanders from rush, reduced HUD clutter) make BF4 an improved game. Are they just going to run the CTE and then give the info to Visceral to implement everything in Hardline? It wouldn't shock me.
dbailey75's Avatar dbailey75
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I'll play them again, probably tonight and tomorrow night, and see if I change my mind. I can be too negative about this game (I feel justified given that I purchased the game and premium, and for being such a loyal customer I have been rewarded with a glitchy, unpolished game), so I will give it a few shots before I just write it off.
I finally accepted this fact , it is what it is now, at least the rubber banding is fixed. .
Mud76's Avatar Mud76
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RAWR is a battle pickup.


There will be no robot carnage on Locker
emartins's Avatar emartins
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The RAWR is not what I was thinking of. I forgot we still have one more DLC coming out. I was looking for the MKV.

Watching people play the maps looks kind of fun, but I guess I have to play them to see.
Mud76's Avatar Mud76
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Its a shame as these new maps really don't suit the RAWR too much.


As a battle pickup in locker or metro, it would allow one team to make a dent and move forward.
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Who's getting on tonight?! I'm on now
mphfrom77's Avatar mphfrom77
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I...ah...well...I'm just disappointed.

It just seems kind of hopeless with Dice...sort of. They put so much into this franchise, yet they take so much away by not applying the finishing touches.

I just have a major problem with them not allowing us to mix the map packs together. It almost doesn't matter if this DLC was really good. (It's not really good btw. And though I do not think BF3's Aftermath DLC is really a good comparison, I think Aftermath was a much better DLC.) Matter of fact, my last line of the last match last night, after playing the flooded casino boat map, was, "this DLC sucks".

Honestly though, I think the main problem I have with every single DLC, is that you can not, REPEAT...CAN NOT PUT THEM IN ONE PLAYLIST AND PLAY THEM TOGETHER...DICE...WTF. Sure, I think I could possibly really like to mix this DLC in with other maps that have released previous, whether it be from the standard BF4 maps or the previous DLC. But Dice has not come up with a way to allow this.

Rent-a-Server is basically useless because the one thing it is supposed to do, it doesn't do. Rent-a-server settings don't allow you to populate a server unless your rented server is setup as "OFFICIAL", and to be deemed "OFFICIAL" you can not mix map packs in one playlist. Only an "OFFICIAL" server will bring in Quick Match people. Quick match people/morons is constantly feeding people into servers which keeps them full. Therefore, Rent-a-Server doesn't allow you to make really cool rotations with maps from all map packs, because then your server would not be deemed "OFFICIAL".

And, guess what? Dice and EA do not have premium only servers with rotations featuring maps from different map packs.

Absolute ridiculous predicament that this puts the Battlefield console community in.

To me, and the majority of the community, the DLC map packs (4 extremely similar maps per DLC pack) are just not that popular. They just get very stale, very quickly.

I just feel forced to play the standard BF4 map rotations because they offer the most variety from one match to the next, and the fact that they are the most populated throughout a night, round after round.

Are DICE and EA, not shooting themselves in the foot? I mean they just can't stop beating themselves.

Fix the settings / rules for Rent-a-Servers that can allow servers to get populated and stay populated. And provide the console community with Dice / EA servers, that are premium only servers, and that feature maps from all the map packs.

Ridiculous predicament. Completely punishes premium members, because it just makes the DLC map packs boring. I mean, who wants to only play the same map pack, with the same 4 maps over and over?

That's why I think I am down on Dragon's Teeth. It's almost like, I'll never honestly know if I even like the map pack, because I never get to find out what modes play well on it, because it is freaking boring playing the same 4 maps over and over. (Unless they are epic...and let's face it...nothing from BF4 is epic, because Dice and EA simply will not allow it.)

IDK. I am just not a big fan of Dragon's Teeth so far. I only played Obliteration though, but guess what? That might be the last time I play that mode on these maps for reasons explained above.

I couldn't believe it when I took off out of the base in a Scout Helicopter and immediately hit the ceiling, then flew lower and immediately hit a rooftop. Stupid.

The waterless, Flood Zone map was a bit much IMO with the 3 story buildings everywhere.

The snow train map seemed okay. I got run over by the train and is scared the hell out of me. I mean, I turned around just in time to see the train barrel me over and it completely freaked me out. It just shocked me. I think I screamed a little. I'm not sure if the video captured, because that feature still doesn't work correctly.

The Limpini Gardens was a ridiculous sniper simulator 2014, sniper mess.

IDK. I'm mainly just appalled at the lack of support for premium members being able to enjoy this game as they should be able to, by not allowing us to play different map packs all on one rotation. Therefore, all the DLC...ALL THE DLC is fairly worthless to me.

I feel bad for telling people earlier in the year, that if you are going to purchase BF4, then you should purchase premium as well. I see no reason to get premium in the future because it does not provide very much...because you simply can't mix the DLC maps together in one rotation, and enjoy a couple hours with your buddies, match after match on the same team in the same server.

MPH out
emartins's Avatar emartins
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Nothing beats an mph post. Bens posts can equal it but not beat it. I think the 2 of you should start a blog. I would really love it. MPH rants and bens great posts.


Zath should be coming soon with a like. Am I the only one that's noticed zath liking every mph post since mph mentioning dislikes.
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mphfrom77's Avatar mphfrom77
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For the life of me, I can't figure out how chain link works. Anybody?
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And the liking continues! Though seriously after reading MPH's account of taking off in a Little Bird only to hit the ceiling, I gotta ask - is there a video of this?!

Though I gotta say I totally agree w/MPH about the DLC map rotations. I feel the same way about BF3. Which is crazy since in BC2, maps were just simply added to the rotation and that's it. I think what made BC2 work better was that the maps that were released were simply re-tooling existing maps that were exclusive to one game mode to another. For example there were some maps that were CQ only which then became available on Rush. There were some new maps added (BC1 maps) that were simply added as well.

This meant that the community didn't get fractured into small groups of people.

It makes me wonder what the real value of premium is. Weapons? Priority access in the queue? Early access to DLC that no one will play in a month anyway? Assignments that give you points which are meaningless once you're at max rank? GUNZ?!
hsv's Avatar hsv
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I think I screamed a little.

Mph is awesome.
mphfrom77's Avatar mphfrom77
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On another note, Dragon's Teeth maps work very good for CTF. I played probably the best CTF games tonight of I've ever played in a Battlefield game. The teams were fairly even. Only atvs, jet skis, Jeeps and hovercraft for vehicles. Infantry on infantry only, and it plays out pretty darn nice. Several times it was a draw, but the team with the most points wins now.

The RAWR, or whatever it's called, is pretty sweet. A power weapon found on the map, it is a mobile turret that instantly kills people, but it can't take much damage. You drive it like a EOD BOT.

I was surprised how well the maps played out for CTF.

I'll have to research Chain link mode though. My team won a couple matches, with the enemy talk still having over 250 tickets, and we didn't even have most of the flags. So I'm confused there.
emartins's Avatar emartins
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Here you go

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ChainLink mode works similarly to Conquest, where your team must gain control of locations on the map. In Conquest those capture points are spread out across the arena, but in ChainLink they stretch across it in a line. Your objective is to capture points along the chain with the hopes of linking up multiple points. Linked capture points will cause the other team’s tickets, or lives, to disappear faster. If the enemy flanks your position and captures a point along your chain then the chain will break and you will no longer receive the bonus. .

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will be on around 8pm tonight for BF thursday... we will be playing CTF on Dragons teeth
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May be on tonight depending what time I get home from work.
emartins's Avatar emartins
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Is that a jeep sighting? Did he move on his boat?
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I can play tonight, on XB1.....
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I can play tonight, on XB1.....
That's a pretty useless announcement....

I think we do miss you though Lazy. Without your unexplainable optimism, MPH and I are turning Ben into a complainer.
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We're also missing Neo... he's good at countering the the negativity too.
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That's a pretty useless announcement....

I think we do miss you though Lazy. Without your unexplainable optimism, MPH and I are turning Ben into a complainer.

Last person I expected to admit this but I always knew you would miss me the most.
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That's a pretty useless announcement....

I think we do miss you though Lazy. Without your unexplainable optimism, MPH and I are turning Ben into a complainer.
it's true, i think the reason i have been so negative about you not being able to play is just to mask the deep pain of loneliness i feel without you
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I can play tonight, on XB1.....

Will you be playing the Destiny beta on XB1 too. Ooooohh, that's right. Never mind.
emartins's Avatar emartins
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Will you be playing the Destiny beta on XB1 too. Ooooohh, that's right. Never mind.

Ha. Truth is I can't play anything that requires internet. I chose to an xb1 here over the ps4 because of the game resume feature. In less than 10 seconds I'm playing a game. Comes in handy when I have a few minutes to squeeze some gaming.

I'll wait to hear what people have to say about the beta. I was planning on skipping it. The alpha kind of shot down some hopes I had for the game. We will see what people think about the beta
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I'll be on all night boys
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I would be commander but CTF has no commander. If I see you guys playing CQ then I will be more than happy to drop a cruise missile on your asses.
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jumping on in 15
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Conquest on Propaganda now Lazy.
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it must be true, without lazy we suck... we couldn't win games on tues or thurs..
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