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While the PS3 edition of NBA 2K14 has been released to generally good reviews, the PS4 version won't be available until November. Here's the official first look video that shows off the game on Sony's next gen console:



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I hope they got their FPS up.  Anything less than 60 at this point is torture.  :(


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those graphics are insane!
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those graphics are insane!

I think we need to see more than 5 seconds of "replay" footage before we go nuts over the graphics.

One thing we know about next-gen, the cutscenes are going to be very impressive. The question is, how are the visuals going to look when you're actually controlling and playing the game. That's the key question.
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In the old days every player was one of 3 sizes with just a face bitmap wrapped on the head.

I like it how people are nitpiking the people in the audience, when they are staring at players with 10k's of polygons ;-)
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I'm more concerned about the gameplay. Sometimes adding in all these "better" animations has been at a detriment of responsiveness of gameplay. For example PES2014's demo, while if you are just watching you'll think "wow, those animations are much better than PES2013" but then when you play it, it is far less responsive than 2013..
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NBA 2K12 had that same horrible problem where you were stuck waiting for elaborate animations to finish before you could input your next action. The developer brought back their old 2K gameplay guru and that issue was tightened up in 2K13. He reported that he refined the controls even more for 2K14, so I'm looking forward to seeing how it all comes together.

With that said, I want to see NBA Live '14 as well before I pick my first b-ball game for next gen. Hopefully demos are released!

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I'm more concerned about the gameplay. Sometimes adding in all these "better" animations has been at a detriment of responsiveness of gameplay. For example PES2014's demo, while if you are just watching you'll think "wow, those animations are much better than PES2013" but then when you play it, it is far less responsive than 2013..

Oh I understand. Just like there are people that hated Pacific Rim and Avatar for their story.

It's eye candy!!
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NBA 2K12 had that same horrible problem where you were stuck waiting for elaborate animations to finish before you could input your next action. The developer brought back their old 2K gameplay guru and that issue was tightened up in 2K13. He reported that he refined the controls even more for 2K14, so I'm looking forward to seeing how it all comes together.

With that said, I want to see NBA Live '14 as well before I pick my first b-ball game for next gen. Hopefully demos are released!

That's good to hear, I would love to enjoy a Bball game again. It's been a long time.

Gameplay and eye candy is what I'm sure most of us want biggrin.gif
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"First shot of the PS4 version", but HD+ resolution makes me question that. So a typical bullshot, but if they can keep the assets running as is on PS4, it'll be impressive at 1080P.


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That 5K jpeg shot is crazy. Soooooo much detail, especially considering this is a launch title.

Visually this game looks too good to be true in the limited stuff we have seen. Maybe the animation with ten players on the court in-game (not just post processed replays) is undeveloped, I dunno. I hope I'm wrong,

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I've always thought the 2K teams had loads of talent and tend to push their games a bit more than EA. Maybe they'll be at the top of their game once again like in the Xbox/PS2 days?
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Will be interesting how their inter contextual and adaptive animation is. That is one area that has really come along in years, think Naughty dog or the newest Winning Eleven on Fox Engine. If they have that they will blow EA out of the water
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Basically a fancy word for kinetics. Good Devs have been using it for years to blend animation based on realistic motion and physics parameters / rules in relation to game worlds.

Still plenty of pre-canned stuff out there though.
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According to this article, the PS4 version of NBA 2K14 will be 50 giggers. eek.gif

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Now we get to see what that 50 GBs represents!



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New trailer looks great. Some of the player models are truly spectacular. I'm still a bit curious as to how next-gen the game will look when played from the normal camera perspective, but anytime they go close up for the cinemas, it looks pretty fantastic. This might be the only game that is really causing me to get a next-gen system at launch.
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The fluid cloth dynamics really add something. probably going to be a nightmare to keep from clipping, but if they get it right it really makes the models feel like characters and not plastic cutouts
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Have there been any actual next gen previews? I'd like to know if all of hte feature sets/game modes are there from this gen and if anything has been added. Also, kinect/ps4 touchpad support? Anything would be great.

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That is NBA Live 14, jaggies jaggies.

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The last NBA 2K14 video received a million+ views in four days according to 2K Games. They will release more info and footage this week.

EA, see what happens when a company actually tries to do something special next gen with a sports license?
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The last NBA 2K14 video received a million+ views in four days according to 2K Games. They will release more info and footage this week.

EA, see what happens when a company actually tries to do something special next gen with a sports license?

Good to hear. I have it preordered, but assumed it was just going to be a straight port with prettier graphics.

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A press conference was held today for NBA 2K14. Below are all the gory details:

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* The president of Visual Concepts up on stage calling #NBA2K14 next-gen truly "special." Says the hardware allows for a unique experience.

* "This is not a port." Built from ground up for the hardware. Brand new engine is called "Eco Motion.l

* The detail of MyPlayer customization gives you a unique look this year. The selected MyPlayer looks awfully familiar... Hmmmm

* Jeff Thomas just played "pure basketball porn." Now discussing 4 main pillars NBA Today, MyPlayer, MyTeam, MyGM

* Daily zap allows for stats, highlights from a real video. All your NBA news connected on your console updated DAILY.

* This is all driven by Dynamic Living Roster - which is adjust daily based on how players are performing in the real world.

* NBA Today delivers new content daily and has sleekest design ever. Driven by Dynamic Living Rosters and Stats Inc.

* The introduction and presentation is brand new. Level of detail is unrivaled and truly shows off the power of the next-gen systems.

* 5 on 5 NBA Today matchup Warriors at Heat getting viewed by press

* Stunning graphics showcased on default camera, new EcoMotion showcases brand new movements and animations.

* Someone just leaned in to me and said it looks like watching a real game at a bar. Ironic since we are at a bar

* Some loud applauds for the 5v5 video. Truly another level on #NextGen #NBA2K14. Team now about to speak to the graphics.

* Level of detail showcased in clip with arena angles, behind backboards, cameramen, cords. mics etc. Level of detail is stunning.

* Art director Anton Dawson on now talking about the thousands of little things. Had to change materials in game: vinyl, wood, cotton.

* Little imperfections of dirt on the backboard tells you all you need to know about the attention to detail. They built a material library.

* The material library looks "consistent" across the game based on items. Built from ground up for next-gen.

* "Once we started doing this for one item, we had to do it all. Things react collectively together so the whole world could live together"

* Details shown at scorers table. A thumbprint on a monitor is shown. Level of detail that went into next-gen

* Now showing off the new LED dynamic lighting system. Just stunning. Scoreboard lights are dynamic and showcase reflections

* They actually measure the color temperature of lights and count the number of lights and manufacturer of lights. Getting the lighting right

* "LEDs in score clock and jumbotron act like how LED is supposed to. Measured in Kelvin and reflected against other surfaces."

* "Reproduce amount of lights in every arena"

* Now showcasing Kobe Bryant getting head scanned. Kobe hung around while they built his model and his reaction was "GTFO here"

* Anton now walking through Kobe's headscan story which I was also at. He wanted to buy tech, was so angry he had never seen anything like it

* Now showcasing LeBron getting head scanned. Showcasing the different faces players make. Screams, smiles, smug looks, focused faces etc...

* Now showing LeBrons championship celebration emotion headscan. Hilarious

* "With head scans, we weren't just trying to capture stills. wanted to get movement to capture emotion & unique face tissue of each player"

* The team captured and head scanned constantly working around NBA schedules to capture nearly every player in the NBA.

* Hundreds of players with thousands of expressions you will see in the game. Showcasing art of those now. This is photo realism.

* "The path of going to every team on the road and the trials of eating fast food in remote locations was the most memorable journey."

* Now Mike Wang getting brought out to discuss gameplay.

* Lead gameplay designer Mike Wang talking about gameplay. Speaking to Eco Motion. Says he's happy to announce the new game engine.

* Speaks about elevating the game harnessing the tech. Primarily in physics and animations. Foot planting clips shown.

* Mike talking about emphasis on foot planting in next gen and how next gen helps us improve it beyond any sports game experience in history

* This "feels completely different" than any other 2K game has felt before. Physics of movement completely lifelike.

* Now speaking to ball handling. Eco Motion allows them to track true physics. Ball spinning when dribbling, ball in hands. Tangible object.

* Dribbling: next gen ball sits in his hand, ball continuously spins like it's supposed to.

* Dribbling: next gen ball sits in his hand, ball continuously spins like it's supposed to.

* Animations: motion capture used to be 1 to 1 on game. Now animation synthesis creates a framework and animation changes...

* Mike speaks about animation synthesis, Eco Motion - based on physics and situation, animations will change.

* The game feels alive. For example, a shooter won't land the same way two times. Animation will adapt to the situation. Truly incredible

* Two shots are radically different for different situations in terms of landing on shots. No two shots will be same

* Coach will adapt to what is happening in the game. So game plans will dynamically change based on what other teams are doing.

* Rob Jones now going over new Points of Emphasis system. Adaptable AI on fly in game. Coaches relay adjustments on timeouts

* Showcasing how A.I adapts to your play. A "Human dynamic change" that coaches will implement. Only on next gen is this possible

* Coaching personas are truly human on next gen

* Points of Emphasis is a game-changer for AI.

* Now speaking to how Emotion Plus allows emotions to translate into performance. How this will affect players.

* Emotion Plus will categorize all the players personalities. Kobe is an Alpha Dog. He wants the ball, he's fierce...

* Rob on new Emotion+: "human emotions translate into performance. Every player has personality, highs are highs, lows are lows"

* That emotion he has allows him to harness that high level of play and it is showcased in the game. Players will show emotion - high and low

* Erick Boenisch now discussing features starting with MyGM.

* Your MyPlayer becomes GM. Has unique attributes on how you react with owners, players and the world around you.

* "MyGM is a cerebral experience. Every decision changes the world around you. GM has attributes and special abilities."

* In MyGM includes conversations. You have to asses the emotional intelligence of the person you're talking too.

* "Conversation engine that remembers everything you do and may throw it back in your face at a later date."

* You will get fired from the owner of you don't maintain harmony in org., locker room and fan base. Revolutionizes what franchise mode is.

* This is the complete evolution of association mode. Decisions and reactions is what this mode is all about.

* "We have built a completely new experience for franchise players. All your day to day experiences have no right or wrong answers."

* Jeff back to talk about completely rebuilt MyCareer. Plays intro, gets standing ovation from press.

* One last thing, a completely new take on our most played mode. MyCAREER mode. Cinematic opening is showcased

* "This is my story and I ain't gonna let nobody write but me." More cinematicas shown. A completely NEW experience for MyCAREER

* MyCareer has everyone in here buzzing

* Complete cut scenes in MyCAREER. Team captured hundreds and hundreds of scenes. A rival, agent, buddies and a compete cast of characters.

* This mode "will leave you asking, "what will happen next?" Building relationships, making deals, making choosing.

* Over 40 hours of gameplay in your first year alone. More scenes showcased right now.

* Jeff: "captured 1000s of cut scenes w actors & whole life of player. Every experience of being NBA player. All you want to see is next path"

* It's true, I'm in there. “@BMaziqueFPBR: #NBA2K14 spot on recreation of @LD2K featured in My Career trailer. Im never leaving the house”

* Who is Jackson Ellis? You are about to become real familiar with him

* Cut scenes of MyPlayer and rival jawing at each other before rookie showcase. The rival and MyPlayer do NOT like each other to say the least

* Jeff: "40 hours of gameplay in Season One of MyCareer" Next gen has unlocked the marriage of beauty and game balance

* Wait one more thing coming... When you're not balling in MyCAREER, you can hang out with hundreds of MyPlayers in the Park.

* Open field of courts shown with hundreds of MyPlayers playing. Quite a tease... Hmmmm... Conclusion of the presentation.

* Jeff: "When MyPlayer isn't balling, he likes to hang with 100 of his friends at The Park."

* Now we are all doing interviews & press playing game. Lots of press to come out of this so stay tuned

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GameSpot has the first footage of what was shown. I must admit that my hype for this game just got very much deflated by that video. I'm sorry, but I'm not seeing a night and day difference between the current version and this version. Yeah, when you look closely you do notice things, but it isn't one of those situations where somebody is going to walk by your TV and say, "Oh my God, that looks amazing". I think they would have to sit down and watch the game for awhile betore they would say... "Wait a minute... what system is this on ?". The earlier trailers that they showed were much more jaw dropping, but seeing the full gameplay camera, it just doesn't look anywhere near as incredible as the previous videos.

I will admit that the video quality and compression of GameStop's video player could be suspect, so maybe once Gamercyde has this, then we can download a legit video of it, and maybe I'll be more impressed. Right now, I'm a bit deflated by what I was looking at, because I was holding this game up on a pedestal as the game that is going to justify launch for me, and now I'm not so sure. I'm sure it will be one of the better launch games, and once you get the game up and running on a huge HDTV, I'm sure it will look pretty damn good, but it doesn't appear to be that jaw dropping next-level power that I was hoping it would be.
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GameSpot has the first footage of what was shown. I must admit that my hype for this game just got very much deflated by that video. I'm sorry, but I'm not seeing a night and day difference between the current version and this version. Yeah, when you look closely you do notice things, but it isn't one of those situations where somebody is going to walk by your TV and say, "Oh my God, that looks amazing". I think they would have to sit down and watch the game for awhile betore they would say... "Wait a minute... what system is this on ?". The earlier trailers that they showed were much more jaw dropping, but seeing the full gameplay camera, it just doesn't look anywhere near as incredible as the previous videos.

I will admit that the video quality and compression of GameStop's video player could be suspect, so maybe once Gamercyde has this, then we can download a legit video of it, and maybe I'll be more impressed. Right now, I'm a bit deflated by what I was looking at, because I was holding this game up on a pedestal as the game that is going to justify launch for me, and now I'm not so sure. I'm sure it will be one of the better launch games, and once you get the game up and running on a huge HDTV, I'm sure it will look pretty damn good, but it doesn't appear to be that jaw dropping next-level power that I was hoping it would be.

Idk that look pretty sick to me. I instantly noticed no more foot sliding an the graphics are nice. Try watching it in HD.

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I'm not an NBA fan and I'm not much of an NBA video game fan either but, I've been looking for a sports game to try on the PS4 and since Madden and NBA Live look like garbage so far I was leaning towards 2K14. After joeblow's post I was ready to move 2K14 to #1 in my Gamefly Q but, after that video I may remove it completely. So what if the reflects are realistic, the gameplay looks the same to my eyes. Like I said, I'm not much of an NBA video game fan so, I may just wait until next year to rent one. Looks like FIFA is my last hope for a sports game at launch but, I haven't seen to much of it so far.

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