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I bet the ones sony wants you to think of are called Qualia.
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I bet the ones sony wants you to think of are called Qualia.
Except the Qualia 006 can't accept 1080p....
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Yeah, please list devices that both accept and display 1080P.
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These are the HDTVs I know of that can (or might) accept and display 1080p at 60 fps:

1. Sony Qualia will be upgradable this summer.

2. Sharp 45" 1080p LCD but it depends on the model you buy.

3. JVC HD2k which has been since release.

4. 37" 1080p LCDs from Westinghouse and BenQ are rumored to be.

5. Potentially the 1080p DLPs from Samsung.
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does ps3 use 1080p at 60Hz or 30Hz???
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PS3 won't be out for well over a year, so whatever's currently available is irrelevant.

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we can keep on updating the thread as new display devices become available
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or we can just wait a year and you can keep checking the displays forum :)

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Except the Qualia 006 can't accept 1080p....
Neither can the front projector (004 I think and about $30K).

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There's none currently, but that's not to say we will see some later on:)

IMO it just means the PS3 is future ready,don't be mislead and think the PS3 will have games displayed at 1080p at launch,aint going to happen.

Sure there are supposed 1080p displays that will "Output" 1080p, but none will accept a 1080p "Input".

Untill then, at least it's great in that it makes the PS3 future ready for when 1080p hardware come available.
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We don't even honestly know if there will be any Blu-Ray movies, let alone those that support 1080p.

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1080i versus 1080p is the difference between a full glass of water and a glass of water with one sip taken out of it. :)

Its easy to see the flaws in an interlaced picture at 480 lines....at 1080 lines its much harder to spot. But LCD's and DLP's are progressive devices so naturally it seems feasable that 1080p would be a reality.

Still, a word to the wise: Just because a company says it can do something, doesnt mean that developers will take the time to use the feature, or for that matter to balance their softare for use at that resolution.

A game that runs with full visual effects at 720p or 1080i might play unacceptably slow at 1080p.

See: Microsoft xbox :)

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Sharp 45GX6U.

One caveat - in order to feed it at 1080p signal you have to bypass the media box.
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edit: i thought that the next gen mitsu dlps would allow 1080p/60 input,
however after some research I'm pretty sure it won't. Sorry folks.
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Westinghouse has a really cheap 32 or 37" Set, I want to say its $2 grand (cheap as in comparible to other LCD flat-panel sets, not projectors).....it supposedly does 1080p, but its contrast ratio is 600:1 I think...not too good.
Still, as a gaming box that might be just fine...

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It seems to me that none of today's models are really meant for 1080p inputs. Guess we'll have to wait until 2006, and maybe 2007 for affordable models.
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there is no such thing a san input that can take an 1080p input signal...the answer to this thread should be a simple.....NOTHING.

the 1080p tv's that are coming out don't take a 1080p signal...they UPCONVERT to an 1080p signal.

1080p is not an input standard as of now and wont be for a while....DVI nore HDMI can't display it...so your talking about an upgrade to these ports...and thats going to take a while. when they upgrade to 1080p inputs...you will not see an "afordable" model for a couple years....if they show up in 2006....expect to pay the premium...continuing to 2007 expect to pay a little less...but its still going to be higher than the majority will be will to pay for.

1080p on ps3 is just an big number they can throw out so they can say look...were more high definition than xbox 360 is. its games are going to be 720p and 1080i just like the 360's. Just get a decent hdtv and be happy.
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there is no such thing a san input that can take an 1080p input signal...the answer to this thread should be a simple.....NOTHING.
Thats wrong. The 45" Sharp LCD I noted above can accept a 1080p signal right now - you just have to bypass the media box which isn't a big deal.

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1080i versus 1080p is the difference between a full glass of water and a glass of water with one sip taken out of it. :)
But LCD's and DLP's are progressive devices so naturally it seems feasable that 1080p would be a reality.
The xHD DMDs are not progressive. Their idea of shake & bake to create a picture with half the mirrors and then drivnig them to represent more than one pixel a piece cannot be consider progressive in my book.

When will D* stop pushing HD-Lite while charging us for full HD? Digital input on a CRT is a reality, not a possibility.
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there is no such thing a san input that can take an 1080p input signal...the answer to this thread should be a simple.....NOTHING.
There are at least two displays that can currently take 1080p at 60 fps and they have been out for over 6 months. The JVC HDK2 and the Sharp 45GX6U.


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the 1080p tv's that are coming out don't take a 1080p signal...they UPCONVERT to an 1080p signal.
There are a few that can accept a 1080p signal and I believe there will be at least 5 displays that can accept 1080p at 60 fps by the end of this year.


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1080p is not an input standard as of now and wont be for a while....DVI nore HDMI can't display it...so your talking about an upgrade to these ports...and thats going to take a while. when they upgrade to 1080p inputs...you will not see an "afordable" model for a couple years....if they show up in 2006....expect to pay the premium...continuing to 2007 expect to pay a little less...but its still going to be higher than the majority will be will to pay for.
Both DVI and HDMI are capable of 1080p at 60 fps. In fact almost every DVI output on current graphic cards is capable of outputting WUXGA (1200x1920) at 60 fps. Why did you think DVI/HDMI couldn't do 1080p at 60 fps?


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1080p on ps3 is just an big number they can throw out so they can say look...were more high definition than xbox 360 is. its games are going to be 720p and 1080i just like the 360's. Just get a decent hdtv and be happy.
I know you are not a fan of Sony but for some on this forum 1080p is a big deal. Also one of the reasons for 1080p is because the PS3 might last for 7 years so midway through it's life it will be the year 2009. I am sure that by that time 1080p displays will be common and maybe even cheap. Microsoft made history by supporting 720p and 1080i on the X-box and Sony has now made history by supporting 1080p on the PS3. You once told me that you supported the X-box because it was the most technically advanced console that was available. Why than are you attacking the PS3?
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Richard I think I remember you posting info on the announcement back in March that Silicon Image was going to begin releasing 1080p transmitters and receivers. Anyway, here's that announcement again in case anyone missed it.

Do you have any links on the Qualia's possible upgradeability?
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does ps3 use 1080p at 60Hz or 30Hz???


I think this question needs to answered before this thread can proceed.
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All the tv's to come out in the in a few years time.
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there is no such thing a san input that can take an 1080p input signal...the answer to this thread should be a simple.....NOTHING.

the 1080p tv's that are coming out don't take a 1080p signal...they UPCONVERT to an 1080p signal.

1080p is not an input standard as of now and wont be for a while....DVI nore HDMI can't display it...so your talking about an upgrade to these ports...and thats going to take a while. when they upgrade to 1080p inputs...you will not see an "afordable" model for a couple years....if they show up in 2006....expect to pay the premium...continuing to 2007 expect to pay a little less...but its still going to be higher than the majority will be will to pay for.

1080p on ps3 is just an big number they can throw out so they can say look...were more high definition than xbox 360 is. its games are going to be 720p and 1080i just like the 360's. Just get a decent hdtv and be happy.


There are so many inaccuracies in this post...lol
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Richard I think I remember you posting info on the announcement back in March that Silicon Image was going to begin releasing 1080p transmitters and receivers. Anyway, here's that announcement again in case anyone missed it.
Here is the thread.


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Do you have any links on the Qualia's possible upgradeability?
There is a pretty good sized thread on it here. At $3000 though the upgrade is expensive.


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does ps3 use 1080p at 60Hz or 30Hz???
I have not seen any concrete info to confirm what frame rates can be output at 1080p, but I would say there is a 95% chance that the PS3 will support 1080p at 60 Hz.
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WOW

1080P at 30 Hz is already "super-high definition"

1080P at 60Hz would be "super-mega-ultimate high definition"
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There are some awesome 1080P display devices that you guys are overlooking.

CRT computer monitors!!
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Why dont you guys just buy a widescreen 24" PC DVI LCD monitor and get an HDMI to DVI cable? You get perfect 1920x1200 @ 60Hz and it would only cost ya between $1000-2000. Yeah you would have black bars when using 1080p, but damn it would look good!

Im sure the answer is that 24" is too small...


EDIT: Looks like Sony's own widescreen PC monitor just hit $1799 (was $1999)
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