So the prevailing theory in here (Edit - This thread started out in the Xbox forum
) is that the Wii is currently this gen's #1 console (still running in sales position #2) because everyone has one, but no-one actually uses them? I'm sorry, I don't buy that when it's based on a bunch of anecdotal evidence on a gamers' forum, and the sales figures say otherwise.
Originally Posted by WalksInDarkness
Dedicated Gamers, twitch FPS or otherwise, are becoming irrelevant? Tell that to Infinity Ward, that Billion Dollar Franchise must be a disappointment to them.
Yeah, look at where CoD started and where it is now and tell me it's evidence of the survival of "hardcore" gaming. CoD is an auto-aiming FPS with magical perks, and has been for years now. I didn't say it's not successful, but hardcore it isn't.
When non-gamers define the industry and it's long term profit sucess, for a significant multi-year stretch, then I may accept that argument. However, the Kinect & Move will just as likely continue to attract this casual crowd with superior titles or functionality.
Thanks for proving my point. Non-gamers have defined this generation of consoles so thoroughly, BOTH Sony & MS have scrambled to produce copy-cat motion control systems to stay in the game, after mocking the idea initially (then getting stomped by it).
Honestly I see many more "casual" users, young and old, enthusiastically beam about their DS (than compared their Wii).
And? Score another success for Nintendo is all that means. How's the current PSP doing? MS hasn't even tried (and won't)...
My kids don't just go on COD...more than any of those games they play the goofy games on the Kinect. So which is it then, casual gamers on an X360 are then considered core? Or is it you are truly not casual unless you play a Wii? It either is or it isn't, you can't have it both ways without that argument being moot.
The argument isn't moot because all of those games exist on the 360 because
of the success of the Wii. Or do you really think Kinect (and all the kiddie games for it) is just some brilliant idea MS dreamed up all by themselves? They're playing catch-up with Nintendo for the casual market. Nintendo is now responding with an updated console to try and stay ahead. Everyone on the Sony/MS bandwagons mocked the Wii and declared it a failure before it even came out, and we now all see how accurate those predictions were. Yet, here we are again, with the "adult gamers" declaring a new Nintendo console a failure even while it's nothing more than rumor.
Awesome knee-jerk reaction and stereotyping, about kids that are intelligent and skilled enough to know that the Wii is now obsolete and irrelevant to them; what's next, a overgeneralized comment about who eats at Popeye's?
Awesome going out of your way to be offended
. What makes you think I was talking about your children? Are you really going to make the argument that the discourse level in your average room of randoms on XBL isn't somewhere between a school-yard and frat-house? If so, I think you need to spend an evening playing randoms in whatever flavor-of-the-month FPS is hot right now (eg Blops) and just listen to all the verbal excrement that's hurled around before getting upset with me for pointing out the obvious.