Originally Posted by ThisOneKidMongo
I guess for me, besides my rampant fanboyism that will almost certainly revive to out-of-control levels as we near launch, it's purely that $299 just seems like the fair, standard price to pay for a brand-new console these days. Simple as that. I mean, $199 is just NOT happening, they're definitely not pricing their big new home console at just $30 over their portable system. These are the people who originally asked $250 for that portable system, remember. We're solidly past the days of a home console launching at $199. $299 is the new $199, in other words.
I would prefer $249 obviously, and I'm not ruling that out as a launch price, depending on how self-aware Nintendo becomes on how unattractive a prospect the Wii U is. But you asked the maximum I'd be willing to pay, and that's $299. Anything above that, however, just seems greedy/stupid, and thus I wouldn't pay.
Man, that fanboyism thing that Nintendo has going for them is worth it's weight in gold. I'm sure Sony has their share of die-hard fanboys, and even Microsoft has their "x-bots", but nobody holds a candle to Nintendo (well actually Apple has a very, very big candle). Nintendo has no idea how good they have it. They could put a fresh pile of dog doo-doo in a shoe box, and call it the Super Wii, and sell it for $299 and somebody would buy it. No joke. It's like Nintendo can do no wrong in the eyes of their most hardcore fans.
I used to be a hardcore Nintendo fanboy as well, but that was back in the SNES days, and the early N64 days. I'd say, that around 1998 I started to get bored of the N64 fare, and I kinda jumped off the hardcore Nintendo fanboy train at that point. I still bought a GameCube on launch day, hoping their former glory (NES & SNES) would return. I also bought a Wii on launch day, thinking it would be new and fresh. In fact, I've bought every single Nintendo home console on launch day except the NES. I bought the SNES on launch day, and it certainly didn't disappoint me. Still, to this day, I think the SNES is the best gaming system "pound for pound" of all time. My top 50 games of all time list is littered with SNES games all over the place. Nothing was quite like the Super Nintendo. Amazing color, amazing sound. Yeah, some early games had slowdown, and sports were almost always better on the Genesis, but SNES was a true champion. The Nintendo 64 amazed me when I attended the e3 show in 1996. I saw Mario 64 and other N64 games before they became available later that year. It was a fanboy's dream to hold that N64 controller in my hands while playing Mario 64 during that e3. It seemed like I was in a dream or something. I got my N64 on launch day, and played the crap out of Mario 64 for many months. I ended up souring on the N64 though, because it became the great waiting game. I was always waiting for that next big game to come out, and the games were way too far away from each other. You'd basically only get one decent game per quarter (if that). In 1998, I started to get into PC gaming more (3dfx anybody ?), but I still bought a GameCube at launch. I actually liked Luigi's Mansion quite a bit, and I really loved the WaveRace sequel. (the first WaveRace was amazing as well). I also liked the Rogue Squadron game for GameCube. The thing that really disappointed me though was Mario sunshine. I know that Mario Sunshine doesn't suck as much as I thought it did back then (my expectations were thru the roof), but it was still a HUGE disappointment to me. Mario was my bread and butter. I rank Super Mario World as the best video game EVER. Super Mario 64 at that time, was definitely a top 10 best game ever for me as well. The original Super Mario Bros. on NES is also a top 10 of all time game for me. Their first 3 home systems, all featured an amazing Mario game at launch. Why did that change with the GameCube? It wouldn't have been so bad if Mario Sunshine was significantly better than Super Mario 64, but I actually think it was a worse game (despite slightly better graphics). Anyways, besides a few games here and there, my GameCube didn't get much use. I bought a Wii on launch day as well, mostly because I got caught up in the novelty of it all. The Wii is a truly a unique device that has a unique flavor all it's own, but that feeling didn't last very long at all. My Wii was collecting major dust after a couple of years.
Here we are again with a new system coming out, and I'd love to continue my streak of buying Nintendo home consoles on launch day, but unless there are some huge launch games that are being kept secret, it's not going to happen. I try not to buy a gaming system if there isn't at least one really compelling game. After looking at everything that was shown, there isn't a single game on the Wii U that is compelling me to spend close to $400 to bring the experience home. Zombie U is probably the closest thing, but I just don't think it's all that amazing. If Zombie U was a 360 or PS3 exclusive, would I really even care about it ? Probably not. Pikmin 3 does look really good, but not nearly 400 dollars good. The Platinum games Wii U game looks interesting, but I'd need to see a bunch more of it, before I would know if that's something that I'd really be into. Normally, a legit Mario game would get me to spend the money, but the Mario that's coming at launch has this "been there, done that" look to it. Maybe I'll see more videos and stuff of it, and change my mind, but it seems to be too similar to NSMB Wii . I can't even begin to explain how hyped I'd be if instead of the polygon based NSMB Wii U, we got a legit 2D, sprite based game.
I'm still hopeful that Nintendo might have kept something hidden. Maybe they have a launch game, that is going to be available in stores in 2012, but hasn't been revealed yet ? I certainly hope they do.
I think Nintendo got a bit of some harsh reality from e3. Nintendo was likely expecting tons of enthusiasm and excitement about the Wii U, but instead, they mostly were told that everybody was pretty underwhelmed by everything they saw. Nintendo wasn't expecting that reaction, but I think it's going to be very hard for them to internally spin the lack of enthusiasm by the general populace that saw what they had. Nintendo was smart not to announce a price at e3, because I'm guessing that if they stuck to that price, they would have had disappointing sales. I'd guess that they were hoping to launch at $299 or even $349.99, but there is no chance they will try $349, and $299 is looking less and less likely. I think they launch at $249, and thank their lucky stars that they have enough Nintendo fanboys around the world to ensure a sellout. However, once the initial wave of fanboys is satiated, then I think it's gonna be all downhill from there for Nintendo, unless they are hiding some amazing games that would be coming VERY soon to the Wii U, to save it's lackluster sales (launch sellout, but Spring 2013 tons of Wii U's sitting on store shelves)
I'm sure they are working on a legit Mario, a Zelda and probably a new Donkey Kong. But, when will any of those big blockbusters see the light of day ? We could be looking at 2014 by the time those games are finally ready. Will anybody care then? I'm sure the diehard fanboys will be there, ready to welcome those games with open arms, but I'm getting too old for this type of thing. I no longer will buy systems unless there is truly something compelling, that is forcing me to spend my hard earned bucks. I do want to play a legit HD Zelda, or a legit Metroid, etc, etc, but I can wait for those games to actually arrive in stores before I plunk down any money on a Wii U. It sucks that my streak of buying Nintendo home consoles on launch day will be broken, but unless Nintendo can pull a rabbit out of it's hat between now and November, I just don't see the streak surviving.