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post #1 of 48 Old 04-08-2014, 12:59 PM - Thread Starter
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Just curious how many people still fire up their Super Nintendo, or other retro systems.


I still play my SNES, as well as my Genesis, Sega CD, Saturn, PS1, 32X, Jaguar, 3DO, TurboGrafx-16 etc, etc... it goes in phases for me. I might go two or three years with hardly touching retro games, and then all of a sudden, it seems like the only games I'm interested in playing are Retro. I recently bought two next-gen gaming machines (PS4 and XB1), yet I find myself strangely attracted to playing retro games right now.

I'm using a standard Super Nintendo, with RGB cable going to a Sony PVM-20M2MU. The monitor is in near new condition, and my video quality is absolutely fantastic. Of course, it's just a 19 inch 4:3 screen, so it's more of a sit close and zone out to the retro gaming experience type thing. I've tried hooking my systems up to my plasma and my projector and stuff like that, but I always end up back with my CRT when I want that reference quality.


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This isn't my video or my setup, but the monitor is the same, and you can kinda get the gist of it. I have my sound going to a pretty high quality sound system. Games like F-Zero on my setup are pretty impressive with the combination of the RGB video and the high quality sound chip in the SNES. Super Ghouls and Ghosts, Contra 3: The Alien Wars, Super Castlevania IV.... All those games look and sound amazing on my setup. It's a joy to play these great games from the early 90's, on a monitor I would have never been able to afford originally. ( my PVM originally retailed for about 6 grand brand new, it was primarily sold to hospitals as an Endoscopy monitor )
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I still use my original Super Nintendo which was a Christmas present in 1995. It's connected via S-Video to a Sony Trinitron and someday likely will be RGB equipped and connected to my HDTV via something like a XRGB Mini (Leaving the S-Video equipped Retro Duo with its excellent SuperNes half to take its place on my CRT for when the mood strikes to play on a CRT).

In reserve still is an example of the Super Nintendo redesign from the late 1990's that was bought one year on Black Friday in 1999 or 2000 at Wal-Mart for $50 or so from a pallet full of them. Besides being tested, it still sits in its box in reserve for a day that hopefully won't arrive (I similarly have a GameCube and the very last new PS2 I ever saw in a store two years ago NIB as spares).
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I've had a retro itch lately as well. In fact I just picked up 3 genesis games off amazon, and trying to determine whether I want to pick up a cheap genesis, or wait till the Retron 5 comes out to see how good that is.

Too many systems and games....not enough time or money!

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(I similarly have a GameCube and the very last new PS2 I ever saw in a store two years ago NIB as spares).

Wow, that's hardcore. I thought I was crazy for having a backup Wii and PS3 (original PS2-capable version), but mine aren't NIB, they're used in good shape. I do have two NES-capable multi-systems and one SNES system, along with a GameCube w/ Gameboy Player ... but my emulators handle most of the old games for me at this point (except Virtual Console purchases), it's just easier with a PC.
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I've had a retro itch lately as well. In fact I just picked up 3 genesis games off amazon, and trying to determine whether I want to pick up a cheap genesis, or wait till the Retron 5 comes out to see how good that is.

I'd get a cheap genesis. Get a Euro MegaDrive scart cable, and then get this adapter from Amazon for like $50:

http://www.amazon.com/BG-460-SCART-System-Digital-Converter/dp/B00988GMLG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1397021669&sr=8-1&keywords=scart+hdmi+converter

You could hook your genesis right up via hdmi with a scart rgb quality picture.
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NES here.
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I'd get a cheap genesis. Get a Euro MegaDrive scart cable, and then get this adapter from Amazon for like $50:

http://www.amazon.com/BG-460-SCART-System-Digital-Converter/dp/B00988GMLG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1397021669&sr=8-1&keywords=scart+hdmi+converter

You could hook your genesis right up via hdmi with a scart rgb quality picture.

Thanks for the tip, though the Retron 5 will also have hdmi out of the box, and one feature that will really come in handy: save states. Thats especially useful considering many retro games are designed to be played through in one sitting( a luxury I no longer have as an adult). I do kinda want the 'authentic' experience, but if the Retron can provide as close to it as possible, I may go that route. Either way, with the cost of SNES games going out of control, Im going to start collecting for the Genesis while the prices for its best games are still reasonably cheap. Its getting harder and harder now to find cheap retro games out in the wild now ( flea markets, car boot sales, thrift shops) as everyone now looks online and thinks that the BIN prices on ebay represent the proper value of their games, and because people are paying these ridiculous prices its gone out of control. I expect genesis and n64 carts to be next once the SNES bubble bursts, so stock up now.

Too many systems and games....not enough time or money!

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Yeah, I don't know... I've heard of lots of these super consoles, these clones and stuff, and I've never seen one really do everything that was promised. There is always problems with the audio, or the timing or whatever.


Actually, there are some emulators on PC that are damn near perfect, like 99.5 percent of the experience, as long as you use a usb controller from the actual system. Only reason I don't just use emulators like this, is because I like the natural, native RGB output that the legit, real systems produce. There are video cards for the PC that will output 15.75 Khz rgb, but I still think something is lost. It's more artificial. The native, real, natural rgb coming from the system, and the native stereo sound is the best you're going to get.

As for the cost of games going out of control, just look for an Everdrive. It's more convenient to not have to constantly swap carts anyways. Also, I think certain versions of the Everdrive, or other similar flash carts might support save states.
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An Ouya is a better deal than a Retron 5. You can pair it with a nice modern wireless gamepad, have additional emulators available for other systems not covered by the Retron 5, and don't need original cartridges all while having the same Androis based hardware guts at the core of it as a Retron 5 (And likely, the same emulators if rumors are to be believed that the only proprietary software on a Retron 5 is the front end itself with the programs being the open source ones you can freely download on an Ouya). Plus, the Retron 5 won't work with multicarts like the Super Everdrive since it dumps the contents of the cartridge into RAM so the most you'll get with a multicart will be the multicart's main menu.

As for clones, these SuperNes clones are very impressive where their accuracy is concerned. Along with Legacy Engineering's 2600 on a chip on the Atari Flashback 2 and the Commodore 64 chip on the C64 Direct to TV plug and plays, it's the best hardware clone I've seen by a mile. I understand the very earliest examples showed incorrect colors in Super FX games when they first appeared 6 or 7 years ago, but the only issue of significance since then on things like the Retro Duo has been compatibility issues with the handful of SA-1 cartridges and a few tiny quirks here and there like triggering the piracy check in Earthbound that makes the game more difficult.
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Actually, there are some emulators on PC that are damn near perfect, like 99.5 percent of the experience,

If pure accuracy is your goal, look into higan (née bsnes).

The developer is aiming for accuracy at the expense of everything else, including performance... which is why the system requirements are so high. He actually made a decent argument about why it's necessary though at ArsTechnica a few years back: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2011/08/accuracy-takes-power-one-mans-3ghz-quest-to-build-a-perfect-snes-emulator/

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I can live with about 97 percent or higher accuracy. I know there are people out there looking for that 99.9 percent accuracy, but 97 percent or better is pretty good. You have to be a real stickler for details to notice the minor differences.


The Sega Saturn emulator for example is pretty crappy. I don't really consider the Saturn as a legit emulated system until it gets to like 85 percent accuracy at least. I'm not sure if the Atari Jaguar has a legit emulator either. Same thing with Panasonic 3DO. I know they all have emulators, but no where near as good as the emulation for NES, Genesis, SNES, even PS1.
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Many an official console isn't even 99.9%. Specifications drift as components age, manufacturing revisions create compatibility issues, programming quirks, locking out 3rd party publishers (Intellivision and Sega Genesis hardware revisions spring to mind), features are stripped out to reduce cost, etc. An emulator that is 97% (Although how you could ever truly quantify a percentage figure, I don't know) would essentially be perfect for all intents and purposes.

Atari Jaguar emulation was finally making strides in the past 2 or 3 years. Not sure if it's still improving, but some games have finally became playable where as the earliest Jag emulation was little more than a novelty. So there's a bit of hope there that it will someday at least be as good as an inaccurate but usually very playable emulator like ZSNES from 10-15 years ago.

Not sure about 3DO emulation recently although that's one I'd love to see make advances. Not particular interested in messing with early CD drives with the Saturn the oldest I go. I emulate Sega CD and just don't play 3DO and Jag CD titles.
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Yeah, ok, well, when I'm saying 97 percent, I'm kinda just throwing out a number, but you know what I mean. We all know that there are NES emulators, and Genesis emulators and TurboGrafx-16 emulators that are very, very good. Super Nintendo etc, etc. I'm not sure what percentage would be applicable, but I can say that if you got a usb controller for that particular system, you could probably fool yourself into 98 percent of the experience. Obviously, again, there will be people that will harp on this or that, but for the most part, the experience is pretty damn solid.

But then there are other systems like the Jaguar, 3DO and Saturn, where emulation does exist, but it's nowhere near as good as the emulation for SNES or Genesis or even PS1. PS1 emulation is actually quite good. Nintendo 64 emulation isn't too bad either. But see, with some Nintendo 64 games you start to have some problems if you aren't using a specific emulator that it likes. I'm not sure how the PS2 emulators are, I haven't tried any.

But if anybody is a fan of Jaguar, 3DO or Sega Saturn, you pretty much have to have the real McCoy if you want to enjoy it at all. I'm not a HUGE fan of Jaguar or 3DO, but I still have a special fondness for them, and I'll probably always own both of those physical systems as long as they are functioning. (I should probably buy a backup 3DO and Jag and just store away in the attic) The Saturn is a system that definitely deserves a place in any retro gamers library, so no question I have to own one of those puppies.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Anthony1 

Yeah, ok, well, when I'm saying 97 percent, I'm kinda just throwing out a number, but you know what I mean.


Yeah, I knew exactly what you meant. An emulation program that on the surface appears perfect in the vast majority of instances despite the necessary shortcuts that had to be taken, due to the inexact or nonexistent technical documentation the programmer had available, just mistakes and oversights in general that keep it from truly being a 100% software reproduction of the original hardware, and limited system resources.

I wasn't taking a shot at what you said, but more in general at anything like a emulation author claiming 97% accuracy, a game reviewer scoring a game a 6.45 out of 10, and similar nonsense where a very exact number is offered that couldn't possibly ever be really quantified.

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I've owned and long since sold off a bunch of retro consoles over the years (Sega Master System, Genesis, SNES, 3DO, PS1, N64, Saturn, Dreamcast) and the only one I really miss and wish I could revisit is, oddly enough, the Panasonic 3DO. While the controllers for that console uniformly stunk it had some great looking games for its day which totally blew away the competition at the time - Crash 'n Burn, Total Eclipse, Starfighter, Escape From Monster Manor, PO'ed, Road Rash and the Shockwave games to name just a few. Lots of really innovative stuff on that console that really influenced future generations of console software.

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Currently hooked up and occupying an AVR input for me is the SNES, N64 w/ CD64 attached, GameCube, 3DO, and Genesis/SegaCD. Dreamcast gets swapped in pretty regularly, too.

I've been playing some Cyberia and Need for Speed on 3DO as of late. I've also become somewhat of a stickler for hunting down boxes and instruction manuals that I'm missing. Retro gaming isn't always cheap.
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Super Nintendo setup with Pioneer VSX-40 problem.

I cannot get my Super Nintendo to do both Audio and Video at the same time with my VSX-40. Anyone have a hook up that works well. I have a svideo/rca to HDMI that gets me the video, but no audio. I then tried doing composite on the VSX and got audio but no video. I tried the setups combined but it seems like the HDMI source overrides the rcas for sound.

Please let me know asap. Trying to get it setup for my wife for Christmas!
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Super Nintendo setup with Pioneer VSX-40 problem.

I cannot get my Super Nintendo to do both Audio and Video at the same time with my VSX-40. Anyone have a hook up that works well. I have a svideo/rca to HDMI that gets me the video, but no audio. I then tried doing composite on the VSX and got audio but no video. I tried the setups combined but it seems like the HDMI source overrides the rcas for sound.

Please let me know asap. Trying to get it setup for my wife for Christmas!
Try checking the HDMI input settings on the receiver menu, I have a different Pioneer model but on most inputs (HDMI and RCA) I can select an alternate audio source if desired. I actually had to do this with my GameCube for the same reason you described. I could only get one or the other (or in one case, only one sound channel) until I made the input change. So now I have a set of inputs configured for any retro console I feel like at the time.

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I still have all my old consoles hooked up. NES, SNES, N64, and Genesis. I have a large shelf with a flat screen and an old tube tv both on it. The old consoles are hooked up to the tube through an AV switch. Love playing the games with the light gun. Emulators just aren't the same for me.
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I am a huge retro player. I am going to be designing my theater in a 8/16 bit theme. I have a few snes, genesis', NES, etc etc but ever since i hacked my wii, i put all those away. I have every nes, snes, genesis, turbo grafix-16, n64, ps1, neogeo, gameboy, etc. game on my wii. I still have WAY more fun playing retro games than anything ps2 or later. I do enjoy more recent gen stuff but not nearly as much.
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Emulators just aren't the same for me.
I went through the same issue. it took me some time to get over the emulator blues so-to-speak but once over that hump its like playing the old boxes.
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I do. I kept all my old consoles, even back as far as my Atari. I'll still hook up my Super Nintendo to play Final Fantasy 3, Legend of Zelda - A Link to the Past, and Super Mario All-Stars.
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I've been getting into emulation with an Android TV. Some of the retro console emulators are very good. Probably 3/4 my gaming time is spent playing emulated consoles.


Ironically, I never owned a console as a kid, but I did have a C-64. C-64 emulation on Android is just OK. C-64 games don't always play well without a keyboard, since common C-64 joysticks did not have many buttons, often using the keyboard to supplement.


If I had the space and didn't live in an apartment, I would definitely be collecting real hardware.
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I've owned and long since sold off a bunch of retro consoles over the years (Sega Master System, Genesis, SNES, 3DO, PS1, N64, Saturn, Dreamcast) and the only one I really miss and wish I could revisit is, oddly enough, the Panasonic 3DO. While the controllers for that console uniformly stunk it had some great looking games for its day which totally blew away the competition at the time - Crash 'n Burn, Total Eclipse, Starfighter, Escape From Monster Manor, PO'ed, Road Rash and the Shockwave games to name just a few. Lots of really innovative stuff on that console that really influenced future generations of console software.

I know I'm replying to the post super late, but just wanted to ask a question for you in regards to the 3DO....

Did you have one in 1994 ?

Because the people that experienced the 3DO in very late 1993, or during 1994, know just how amazing the 3DO was for it's time and place. I played Crash N Burn at my buddy Walt's house. He was the only one I knew that got a 3DO at launch. Seeing Crash N Burn running on his 31 inch Mitsubishi, it looked absolutely jaw dropping. Better than anything even at the Arcades. Of course, the Saturn and PS1 would make the 3DO look kinda dumb one year later, but everybody that owned a 3DO in 1994 knows whats up...

Crash N Burn - the game sucks, but in late 1993 it looked so freaking next-gen. Possibly the biggest graphical leap in the history of video games. Very few experienced it because of the ridiculous price of the 3DO, or experienced it way too late, so it didn't have that original impact.

Total Eclipse - This was the next big game my buddy Walt got. Definitely visited his house a few times to check that game out...

John Madden Football - Ended up buying a 3DO ( and later returning) for this game. At first I was totally blown away, but about 10 days later the honeymoon factor wore off, and I decided to return my 3DO. Had to sell Madden in the classifieds, lol.

Escape From Monster Manor - got a open box 3DO from "The Good Guys!". Bought it right before a price drop, and then got the price drop match, plus the extra off because it's open box. Got a great deal, and Monster Manor was the newest game to hit the scenes. I actually played this game before I played Doom. Never had a PC at that time. I got Doom on the Jaguar, but that was a few months later I think... So this was my first doom clone type game I guess.

Shockwave - I remember when I first got this game, just being totally blown away by the production value. It was like a true science fiction movie come to life. The whole way it started off with the full motion video and everything. This was the pinnacle of multimedia for it's time. The game probably looks like dog crap right now, and the playability probably doesn't hold up that well.

Road Rash - When this game came out, the 3DO had hit the big time as far I was concerned. I absolutely loved this game, and played it to death. Love the Grunge soundtrack that went with this game. Rusty Cage baby....
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I know I'm replying to the post super late, but just wanted to ask a question for you in regards to the 3DO....

Did you have one in 1994 ?

Because the people that experienced the 3DO in very late 1993, or during 1994, know just how amazing the 3DO was for it's time and place. I played Crash N Burn at my buddy Walt's house. He was the only one I knew that got a 3DO at launch. Seeing Crash N Burn running on his 31 inch Mitsubishi, it looked absolutely jaw dropping. Better than anything even at the Arcades. Of course, the Saturn and PS1 would make the 3DO look kinda dumb one year later, but everybody that owned a 3DO in 1994 knows whats up...

Crash N Burn - the game sucks, but in late 1993 it looked so freaking next-gen. Possibly the biggest graphical leap in the history of video games. Very few experienced it because of the ridiculous price of the 3DO, or experienced it way too late, so it didn't have that original impact.

Total Eclipse - This was the next big game my buddy Walt got. Definitely visited his house a few times to check that game out...

John Madden Football - Ended up buying a 3DO ( and later returning) for this game. At first I was totally blown away, but about 10 days later the honeymoon factor wore off, and I decided to return my 3DO. Had to sell Madden in the classifieds, lol.

Escape From Monster Manor - got a open box 3DO from "The Good Guys!". Bought it right before a price drop, and then got the price drop match, plus the extra off because it's open box. Got a great deal, and Monster Manor was the newest game to hit the scenes. I actually played this game before I played Doom. Never had a PC at that time. I got Doom on the Jaguar, but that was a few months later I think... So this was my first doom clone type game I guess.

Shockwave - I remember when I first got this game, just being totally blown away by the production value. It was like a true science fiction movie come to life. The whole way it started off with the full motion video and everything. This was the pinnacle of multimedia for it's time. The game probably looks like dog crap right now, and the playability probably doesn't hold up that well.

Road Rash - When this game came out, the 3DO had hit the big time as far I was concerned. I absolutely loved this game, and played it to death. Love the Grunge soundtrack that went with this game. Rusty Cage baby....
I actually pre-ordered my 3DO and got it on day one so I was into it right from the beginning. I was really into videogames at that time and a complete graphics whore (still am) so I absolutely had to have the 3DO since it was light years ahead of its immediate competition at the time.

I had all the games you listed. I remember playing Crash 'n Burn to death, beating the game with every car and even unlocking all the hidden cars (there were some really interesting vehicles that were incredibly fast and handled better than the stock cars you unlocked as you won more races). Total Eclipse looked almost photo-realistic. Being an EA game, Shockwave had that extra level of polish. Monster Manor was a lot of fun but the lack of a save feature meant some long sessions with that one. Road Rash was just tons of fun. Starfighter was another great game with some really cool visuals. The 3DO version of Wing Commander 4 was also a really nice game with some beautiful visuals and great dogfighting. All told I probably bought over 50 games for the console, including many in genres that I typically avoid (sports, fighting, etc.).

The controllers were the console's weak point as I never really found one that was comfortable to use for extended periods and I often had sore thumbs after playing for a while.

Looking back, the console was just too expensive ($700 when first released) and had precious little software at launch. Because of those two factors, I don't think it ever built more than a niche audience and as you say the arrival of the PS1 was the beginning of the end for the 3DO. I remember seeing them for sale for $30 at the end of their lifecycle, I actually bought a second one but eventually sold both my consoles and all my games.

While I sometimes get a nostalgic urge to revisit some of the games I'm pretty sure they won't hold up well at all. Better to just leave it to my rose-colored memories.

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For those that were reading this thread, if anybody likes retrogaming podcasts, I just started up a new podcast:

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My SNES is dead. I thought about buying a replacement OEM console online but considering the age of these things and the fact I kept mine in immaculate condition and it still failed I decided instead to try a clone console: the Super Retro Trio. After two units that had issues, the first with it's S-video feed on bright scenes and the second with distorted audio, I gave up and went back to emulation. Emulation isn't so bad, especially with the brand-spanking-new higan v095 which Byuu just released maybe a week or so ago, but I still miss the simple act of plugging in a cartridge and flipping a switch.


Of course, using original hardware poses all kind of issues as I quickly discovered. First, composite video is absolutely atrocious on an HDTV and while S-video is an immense improvement none of my flat screens besides an ancient Olevia 37" still have that connection. I'm now greatly regretting letting go of my old Panasonic 46pz800u which had not one but two s video inputs. I know everyone says to get a CRT but (and I'm going to be honest here) we've made great strides to get rid of all the CRTs in the house on account that they are huge and ugly and cumbersome. We still have a monolithic 57" CRT rear profjection unit but it's picture isn't exactly what it used to be. Btw, we can't even give that hulk away and thanks to it's prodigious size and weight it's basically stuck where it is.


I want to play my classic games on a modern HDTV! I know these are first world problems...


So there doesn't appear to be a really good way to get old systems working on modern TVs. Some say to get the Retron 5 but that product is just an emulator for people who can't figure out how to Google. Others say to just bite the bullet and buy an RGB modified OEM SNES but I'm really not sold that dropping that kind of money on a 20+ year old console is the smart decision. Still others point out that Nintendo will happily re-sell me most of my classic games on both the Wii and WiiU but besides feeling wrong I would then have to deal with the dumb interfaces on both those systems. Considering Analogue Interactive has found a market selling recreation NES' for upwards of $600 I'm shocked that no one else has found a way to manufacture and sell an HDTV ready clone for ~$150 without all the issues inherent in the typically cheap all-in-one consoles that have flooded Amazon and ebay these past few year. I'd pay that for a decent hardware solution that plays my original carts! In fact... how hasn't Nintendo themself released (re-released) a retro console for the holidays?

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if I didn't care about RGB, I'd be fine with emulation.


I'd need the real controllers with a usb mod though. Have to use the real controllers if nothing else.
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I still have an original NES and SNES packed away in my retro-system container. But I just don't know of an easy way to play them as I have no composite or S-video connections on any of my TV's. Otherwise I would definitely play them much more often.
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if I didn't care about RGB, I'd be fine with emulation.


I'd need the real controllers with a usb mod though. Have to use the real controllers if nothing else.
In my experience most, if not all, USB adapters for old gamepads add lag. That's why I use an iBuffalo Classic USB Gamepad. You might not believe me but it's better than the real thing.
Of course that's only when using higan-- if I'm using, say, Fusion I'll plug in one of my original Sega Saturn USB gamepads. Those actually are the real thing!

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