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post #1 of 24 Old 07-22-2010, 06:24 PM - Thread Starter
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Another month an another new mouse added to collection. The MadCatz Cyborg R.A.T. 7. I prefer the up down layout of the Sidewinder side buttons better. Comes with a metal tin that hold the optional parts. 5600 dpi max. Seems to be a very well built mouse. Frame is made of metal as the various adjustment tools..





The RAT 7 has the bump (ier) palm attachement on.


Size comparison to my other fav mouse's. The RAT 7 has the optional pinkie attachment on the right attached.

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Whats funny is that I've pondered getting that thing just because it looks badass!! It cool that it's well built because from the pics it looks like cheap plastic.

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Is that uhhh disassembled or something? because it seems like all those open spaces and crevices would collect a lot of pet hair and finger cheese...
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Is that uhhh disassembled or something? because it seems like all those open spaces and crevices would collect a lot of pet hair and finger cheese...

Open concept design. A can of compress air will solve any dust probms. No pets here.... Major issue for me is the side button placement. Maybe I have a large thumb because I tend to press them all the time without wanting to to. Gets frustrating in a game when you are in a spray mode and suddenly you go to melee with a knife at range...gets you dead...really a bummer when that happens . I just have to find the right setup configuration and that would prob min the prbm. The 5600 dpi sounds great but really almost unusable. I set the max to 4000 dpi and adjusted the other three presets to my pref's. The dpi is selected via a rocker just aft of the scroll wheel. There are three programmable profiles that can be activated via a button near the left mouse click button at the top.. Also has this neat red button on the left side, they call it a precision button. When press it cuts the mouse movement to a user define percentage of the current dpi setting, they say it's for sniping. Still have not fig what the thumb side wheel is for or even how to use it. It also has weight adjustments.

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Whats funny is that I've pondered getting that thing just because it looks badass!! It cool that it's well built because from the pics it looks like cheap plastic.

It has a metal (alum) skeleton. The black parts are plastic. FYI

BTW here is their site

http://cyborggaming.com/prod/rat7.htm

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5600dpi unplayable? common tinker your getting old! lol I play with my g500 on full boar 5700dpi at all times unless sniping. But then again I'm a twitch FPS player.

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The RAT 7 side buttons are too low, I compared them with my other mouses. I had to deactivate them so not to hit them by accident for some games. I tried many configs and those buttons are still a PITA. Good design except for the crappy placement of the side buttons.

ADD: also its a heavy mouse with all the weights installed. I remove all the weights and the mouse still has a decent amount of heft.

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IMO heavy mice are the way to go. I think I may pick one up just to try. Though I doubt my g500 or sidewinder will be put on a shelf any time soon.

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IMO heavy mice are the way to go. I think I may pick one up just to try. Though I doubt my g500 or sidewinder will be put on a shelf any time soon.

I like heavier mouse's but the RAT 7 with all the default weights is real heavy. The mouse without weights is about then same as the original Sidewinder with a lot of weights. Its a chore to pick up...

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I use a Logitech G7 mouse for one reason...rechargeable Lithium batteries. It's priceless. Why other companies don't do this baffles me. Even logitech doesn't do it, this seems to be an exception in their own product line.

This Cyborg RAT mouse looks pretty cool, but I couldn't throw down $100 for it without trying it out first...even then it would have to be completely awesome. It looks like the plot of the next Terminator movie, "The Cyborg R.A.T. destroys all of humanity..."

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Interesting looking mouse. I use a Sidewinder X5 and love how light weight it is but would at least play around with that Madcatz mouse to see how it feels. I like the thumb and pinky rests.
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I have to say, the more I'm checking this mouse out the more I like it. The fact that's it's wired bothers me though.

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I have to say, the more I'm checking this mouse out the more I like it. The fact that's it's wired bothers me though.

The RAT 9 is wireless. It will be released next month. I prefer a wired mouse over wireless. I have both the original wired MS Sidewinder and the wireless Sidewinder and I prefer the former. I also have other wireless mouse's and I always seem to go back to the wired ones...I guess it is all per pref...

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I dunno how I do it but I've been keeping up pretty well using just this mouse.





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Tinker, now you've had some more time with it what are your thoughts? Would you buy it again?

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Tinker, now you've had some more time with it what are your thoughts? Would you buy it again?

Other then the less then ideal side button placement (per pref) I am very happy with the RAT. I would buy again since it's my prime mouse right now.

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*laughs*

I dunno how I do it but I've been keeping up pretty well using just this mouse.





I got one of those. I use it with my sim racing rig since it does not fall off the tray when the Buttkicker rumbles and shakes every thing.

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Sorry too many moving parts to go wrong! I have pets and the fur and finger cheese would be unruly on that mouse. Plus the price tag is just way too high for a mouse. I couldn't justify the purchase of that thing for that price. I will stick with my Logitech that's been holding me just fine for the past 3 years.
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Speaking of Mice, MS (finally) released v8.0 of their Intellipoint software for their mice which has a few new features/updates, so be sure to grab it if you have an MS mouse.

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Tinker, can you update us on the Cyborg? How has it held up?

also, can you comment on this?
http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2012/8/31/BMW-Designs-Hot-New-Gaming-Mouse-7710522/

this mouse is built on the Thermaltake Level 10 mouse (so perhaps you've used that)

I just discovered this and was wondering if you have it?

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I can tell you about my RAT 7. One of the 2 thumb buttons is stiff, it still works, but it doesn't feel like it did when it was new. Also the bottom has little glide pads that are very tiny and attached to another equally sized shim or standoff, I don't know what you call it. It's like a sheet of thin black paper attached to the aluminum chassis of the mouse, and the glide pads are on top of the paper. They've all come detached and I've quit using the mouse now mainly because of the pads. You can buy new ones from madcatz, but I don't think it's worth it. I went back to my logitech g500 mouse.

I'm not sure how old it is, I'll have to find the receipt. I enjoyed it while it lasted, but it's not built to last.


That BMW is too open. For something that you have your hands on all the time, grime gets everywhere. The RAT 7 is full of it and dust in places that are impossible to get to. I'd rather have something that is closed up tight.

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Thanks Yrd, that is a helpful review. Sad though, cause I know that's an expensive mouse and it looks cool. I have large hands, so I wanted something that could adjust size wise and also weighting. Plus I wanted 2-3 thumb buttons where as my current mouse only has 1.

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I still use the RAT on occasions but I do not feel as comfortable with it as I am with my MS Sidewinder Gen 1 mouse with the "hump", I have the MS Sidewinder gen 2 also. but I pref the gen 1, enuf that I bought a spare since they "may be???" EOL

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