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post #1 of 96 Old 03-22-2011, 10:49 PM - Thread Starter
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It looks like I can't find anyone who'll put together a setup the way I want, so I guess I'll have to build one myself:

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In Win Dragon Rider ATX Full case (seems to get some decent write-ups)
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GTX 590 or 6990 (depending on price/performance and noise)

OK, here's where I need help- cooling. I was thinking of liquid cooling but I'm not sure if installing it would be over my head. Air or liquid? Which would be better for a good i7-2600k o/c?

That's about it- I'll scavenge the rest of the parts from my current setup.

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As much as your putting into this comp. Might as well put liquid cooling in there as well. Certainly wouldn't hurt to do it. If it were me. I'd do it.
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For the sake of simplicity, I would go for a quiet air cooling solution if overclocking a 2600K to under 4.8GHz. The Noctua NH-C14 is a very good option that offers flexibility in suiting one's taste for noise and performance.
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For the sake of simplicity, I would go for a quiet air cooling solution if overclocking a 2600K to under 4.8GHz. The Noctua NH-C14 is a very good option that offers flexibility in suiting one's taste for noise and performance.

No doubt the Noctua is a nice heatsync, but is there much point in me investing extra in such a quiet cooling solution if I'm going to put a jet engine like the 6990 or (most likely) a 590 in there?

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I used a lot of Thermalright air coolers in the past but for air cooling now I would rec the Prolima Tech coolers. Designed by some former Thermalright pple. Looks sim to the Thermalright high end cooler and they work better then the Thermalright ones.

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Tinker- that one you just listed doesn't appear to come with a fan. Is that safe (especially for an overclock).

Noctua NH-D14. Heh.

The CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus looks good and it won't break the bank. I'll probably go with that.

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Tinker- that one you just listed doesn't appear to come with a fan. Is that safe (especially for an overclock).

Noctua NH-D14. Heh.

The CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus looks good and it won't break the bank. I'll probably go with that.

You will have to supply a fan or two with most high end coolers.... I norm use two (push/pull) 120mm 2400/2600 rpm Scythe fans with a fan controller with all my large coolers. A fan controller is need to quiet the fans down when you do not need them when not stressing the CPU. I just find an ideal setting which is what I do for everything and only crank them up when I do stress testing benchies.

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No doubt the Noctua is a nice heatsync, but is there much point in me investing extra in such a quiet cooling solution if I'm going to put a jet engine like the 6990 or (most likely) a 590 in there?

That is true, especially when your power supply selection seems to indicate that you might consider two of either of those cards.

For something like a 4.2-4.4GHz overclock, you might be able to get away with using the stock cooler.
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IMO I'd rather have 2 cards with really good coolers on them than a single card with 2 GPU's on it and a reference cooler. ie 2 GTX 570's or 580's from MSI with the twin FROZR II, or something similar.
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IMO I'd rather have 2 cards with really good coolers on them than a single card with 2 GPU's on it and a reference cooler. ie 2 GTX 570's or 580's from MSI with the twin FROZR II, or something similar.
OK, you pay for it then.

I think I'm just going to jump on a 590 tommorow (provided the reviews are halfway decent) and then I'll decide what to do afterwards. It's unfortunate it won't fit in my current case- I can barely fit a 295 in there, and the 590 is .5 inches longer.

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OK, you pay for it then.

I think I'm just going to jump on a 590 tommorow (provided the reviews are halfway decent) and then I'll decide what to do afterwards. It's unfortunate it won't fit in my current case- I can barely fit a 295 in there, and the 590 is .5 inches longer.
If you really want a good case, take a look at the Coolermaster HAF series. That's if you like that military/industrial look. Great air flow.

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OK, you pay for it then.

I think I'm just going to jump on a 590 tommorow (provided the reviews are halfway decent) and then I'll decide what to do afterwards. It's unfortunate it won't fit in my current case- I can barely fit a 295 in there, and the 590 is .5 inches longer.
Well obviously 2 580's is a grand, but 2 570's can be had for about $700, same as the 6990. I actually ordered a 570 today for my machine and only paid $280 after MIR.

2 6950's would also be a great choice at around $580.

570 with TWIN FROZR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...%20570%20frozr

6950 with same

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-562-_-Product
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Hmm. GTX 590 not doing too well in benchmarks- maybe I do 6950 tri-fire this time around- comes in around the same price as a 590, and I can flash them to 6970s.

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The 590 looks like a good choice for someone who wants to keep noise down and not pay for water cooling.

Although the 6990 generally dominates in performance, someone gaming on a single 1080p display can play literally any game with truly maximum settings at a more than playable frame rate. That being said, I think I'll go for a 580 in my new rig.
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Yeah. I'm really conflicted now, but I think buying two 6950s in crossfire to start would be a better option for me, and then maybe adding another one later if I felt like it.

I do want to pick up a 590 but it performs like SLI 570s. Worth $700? I'm not sure- I probably would go quad eventually, but still, I think tri-6950s would be more than adequate for my purposes (and much cheaper).

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With an AMD solution, you give up all of those wonderful CUDA-exclusive features. Is that a sacrifice you're willing to make?
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With an AMD solution, you give up all of those wonderful CUDA-exclusive features. Is that a sacrifice you're willing to make?

Like what? Batman: Arkham City is the only big game I can think of coming up using PhysX. Other than that I can't think of anything.

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Like what? Batman: Arkham City is the only big game I can think of coming up using PhysX. Other than that I can't think of anything.

Have you seen the GPU water in Just Cause 2, its freaking amazing IMO. See there is at least 2 reasons!

What the price on the 590? I thought people were thinking upwards of 1k. Two unlocked 2GB 6950's would be pretty sweet IMO.
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You forget I currently have a 295, so yes I've seen the water in JC2.

The 590 is supposed to be $700, same as the 6990.

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You forget I currently have a 295, so yes I've seen the water in JC2.

The 590 is supposed to be $700, same as the 6990.

That's good pricing, but from you said about the reviews it looks like it performs like 2 570's which is the same price. Maybe driver updates can get more out of it later on...

I'm reading the [H] review right now, looks like the 590 is seriously underclocked. Most of the speeds are noticeably lower than even the 570.
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Like what? Batman: Arkham City is the only big game I can think of coming up using PhysX. Other than that I can't think of anything.

I was just kidding in light of the 590, which seems to have a focus on performance in this area.

You definitely have a tough decision to make on the GPU side. Thank goodness the other components are relatively easy to pick. By comparison, buying a high-end CPU very rarely has enthusiasts thinking twice.
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Apparently the 590 can bitstream audio so this makes it even harder for me. I suspect 590s will be available in very limited numbers.

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I would like to just say that my Asus P67 Pro Rev 3 from Tiger came int his week, and man you can tell they did a rush-job shipping these things out the door. No foam inserts to protect the MB, there wasn't even tape on the anti-static bag nor silica gel (yes, it was a new board is has all the right Rev 3 markings).....really "crap we have to ship these out now!"......the board has more bells and whistles on it than I am used to, but eventually I'll figure it out. I hope to get to 4.8Ghz on the stock cooler with Arctic Silver and perhaps a mild voltage bump.

Should unlock some performance on my GTX 580. PS: In reading the reviews of the 590 on Anand, I'm not impressed.

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My choice of the ASRock P67 Extreme4 over the Asus P67 Pro is because the ASRock offers tri-crossfire support (dual-PCI-E x16 slots and one 8x slot) for approx the same price. Otherwise the features are comparable.

Right now I'm pretty sure I will just get two 6950s, unlock them (if not that's OK too) and add a third later if I feel like it. I'm still considering a 6690 but I don't think I could deal with the noise. Are there any full-size ATX cases with noise mgt capabilities?

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Cool. For me, I'd never put 3 videocards in my system....heat, noise, power....I'd ultimately wind up looking for something in a single or dual card solution, but thats me.

At first I was like "WTF!?" when I opened the Asus board up....it has 3 PCI-16 slots, but it turns out if you are running 1 board, you run 1 slot. If you are running SLI or Crossfire (this board supports both), you use the other 2 slots. Tomorrow is the day I tear down my Yorkfield and build up this new box.

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Are there any full-size ATX cases with noise mgt capabilities?

The Silverstone Fortress FT02 cases are generally lauded for their excellent noise absorption capabilities. They are pricey, but you apparently get what you pay for in this situation.
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I ordered my parts and of course Newegg had a problem auto-verifying my card, so it will probably take until some time next week to clear things up.

So should I get a 6990? I'm sorely tempted to, but I don't know if I could put up with the noise...

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I think you are on the right track with the dual 6950's. Get the MSI's with the awesome cooler and you won't regret it.

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I'm not going to spend extra on the Twin Frozr II when the standard 6950s are $240-$250 AR now. Being as they all seem reference design I'll probably end up with three mismatched 2gb 6950s. My first one is the standard MSI, my second will probably be PowerColor or something like that. Unfortunate the rebates are only 1 to a customer.

I just ordered a second 6950 (Gigabyte 2gb) which is $245 AR from Newegg. It probably won't be long now until they hit $200. I'll definitely pick up a third then (provided my build goes OK).

BTW, I changed my case to a Rosewill Thor. Dauumn! That thing is huge! (I know, That's what she said...) I only hope it gets to me in one piece.



I'm also getting an Antec HCP-1200 1200W PS insted of the AX1200 Gold. SuperBiiz was selling them for $10 cheaper than the AX1200, and it's supposed to be better anyways.

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I only hope it gets to me in one piece.

That looks to be a valid concern after reading the customer reviews on NewEgg.

You could have a quad-GPU, dual-CPU system in that thing and still have it look roomy.
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