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Like an idiot I posted in the wrong section so this thread is a port to the correct section.

If you would like to give it a read the original thread can be found here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1400549

But I will copy and paste the main parts over:



I am hoping to build a Gaming HTPC.
I am a little out of the loop with most components as the last time I had a PC built was 2006 so a lot has changed since then.

Here is my idea for what my Gaming HTPC hybrid should be able to do:


1)Running Ubuntu mainly (but will also be installing windows)
2)Plays 1080p (obviously)
3)Plays Blu-Ray discs (maybe burn them)
4)Stream media
5)Possibly use for encoding
6)Quiet when not doing demanding tasks such as running games, quiet running during tv/movie playback really is a must
7)Use for gaming (ie Skyrim)
8)I have a 5.1 sound system and ideally I would like it connected straight to the PC (preferably using optical out)
9)Use as a server (so my laptop does not have to be on all the time), will have my external hdd case (with 2x2tb SPANNED hdds in) connected.
10)Remote Control use (may be a problem using ubuntu....)
11)Be able to watch TV shows (so will include a tuner card)
12) Low power usage when not doing demanding things (as I think the pc will be on most, if not all, of the time.



Decided components (this section can very easily be changed and most likely will be changed)

Motherboard:
Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Motherboard (Socket 1155, ATX, DDR3, USB 3.0, HDMI, Bluetooth Module)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-P8Z68-V...pr_product_top

Processor:
Intel Core i7-2700K 3.5 GHz Quad Core Processor (Socket 1155, 8MB L3 Cache, HyperThreading Technology, Retail)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-i7-270...2072281&sr=1-1

RAM
Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 8GB 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 Vengeance Memory Two Module Kit
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMZ8...omputers_img_c

Case
Lian Li PC-C60B Black HTPC Case
http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_0929.html

Really unsure about this
GPU:
Asus GeForce GTX 570 ENGTX570 DCII/2DIS/1280MD5
http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_5329.html

Really unsure about this
PSU
BeQuiet Pure Power L8 730W Power Supply BN183
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/730w-...-quiet-fan-atx
OR
OCZ-ZT750W-UK - 750W OCZ ZT Series Fully Modular PSU 80+ Bronze Certified ~85% Efficiency 140mm Fan 5 Year Warranty
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/750w-...-year-warranty

After that I am a little hazy on what components would be ideally suited for my task.
I believe the rest of my shopping list is:

GPU
RAM
PSU
HT Case
Blu-ray Drive
Sound Card (is this necessary?)
Wireless keyboard and mouse
Remote Control



As the onboard graphics are decent I think I may hold off on buying the graphics card until a later date.

Any equipment I have already listed is very open to suggestions and changes.

Thanks


After some research I have found that my options are limited due to the Lian Li case only accomodating GPU cards of 270mm or less, so to find a small, quiet, cool, reliable card is tricky, however this seems to be quite good:


Gainward GeForce GTX 580 "GOOD Edition" 1536MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=GX-141-GW

Review:
http://www.tweaktown.com/pressreleas...ver/index.html

Does anyone have experience with this card and if so, would it be a good choice?

The card is 267mm as stated here:
http://www.gainward.com/main/vgapro.php?id=452

Do you think 267mm is too close to 270mm?
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It is perhaps best to wait on the GPU. Nvidia will soon announce their 28nm Kepler GPU(s).

The thermals are expected to be quite good with Kepler, so on top of a significant performance increase over the 500-series, we might see very quiet graphics cards as well.
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way too close to new nvidia cards. Best to use onboard until then. Let us see the completed build, I wanna see how that case works out.
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Just FYI I had labelled the case wrong it is a PC-C60B not PC-C32B, the 60 is better (has usb 3)

Would you mind commenting on the possible PSUs I have picked out?
Do you think 8gb of ram is sufficient or should I go for 16gb?

I believe I also need to buy some aftermarket coolers for the cpu, this I am unsure of though:

IN the Lian Li case review, specifically on page 3 here:
http://www.kitguru.net/components/ca...ssis-review/3/

down at the bottom they use a Intel cooler (XTS100H) which fits, would that be enough do you think?

I also have 5.1 surround sound so think I may need a sound card for gaming, any recommendations there?
Also need a TV card installed, also would like recommendations there

Also thinking of his for an SSD

OCZ 120GB Agility 3 SSD - AGT3-25SAT3-120G
http://www.ebuyer.com/268244-ocz-120...t3-25sat3-120g
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Go with 8GB of RAM.

You might even want to consider waiting a little bit on the CPU, and go for an Intel Core i7 3770K Ivy Bridge chip. Lower power draw and less heat when compared to the comparable Sandy Bridge part. I think they will be released next month, or so I remember reading.

I did a build using a Lian Li PC-C33B case. These kinds of cases trap a lot of heat as the components are so close to each other in a smallish box. I used Noctua's smallest tower heatsink and fan combo for cooling a slightly overclocked Intel Q9550, and the temps still got quite high.

You don't have HDMI on your audio receiver? If you do, a modern graphics card can handle the surround sound gaming audio tasks for you.

SSD firmware has gotten good across the board, so you should be safe with a good number of them.

I've only been using SilverStone power supplies (with short cable kit) lately, so I can't comment on other power supplies.
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From the case review it seems that it is sound under load....
Do you not think it wil fare well?


I may consider waiting on the CPU however as the 3660K will be a release Ivy bridge it may be a little unreliable.....

My audio reciever has a hdmi connection but I believe it is hdmi out not in, I was planning on connecting via optical out, which the mobo has, but I have been told that iti s a problem for gaming....
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UPDATE

So my friend and I have gone through a list and these are the components as it stands:

CPU
Processor (i5 2500k)
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel...che-95w-retail

Motherboard
Asus P8Z68 Gen 3
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-...dvi-d-hdmi-atx

TV Card
Peak PCI DVB-T
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Peak-DVB-T-C...pr_product_top

SSD OCZ Agility 3
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/120gb...0mb-s-85k-iops

Case Lian Li C60B
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/lian-...e-sata-w-o-psu

PSU
Corsair 600w PSU
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/600w-...et-fan-atx-v23

Ram Corsair Vengeance DDR3
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-%...9-9-24-xmp-15v

Blu Ray Drive
LG 10x BD Writer
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/lg-10...w-bh10ls38auau

CPU Cooler
Scythe Shuriken CPU Cooler
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/scyth...-amd-intel-cpu

Keyboard
Razer Arctosa Black Edition
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/razer...h-hyperesponse

GPU and Sound card added later, what do you think?
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Everything is good but that god awful SSD drive. Go with Intel or Crucial IMO.

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Q:If mainly for gaming and HTPC why would you want to bother with Ubuntu at all? Why not just stick with Win7 (and eventually Win8)? Seems like too much bother to me.

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why is the SSD really bad?

OS dual booting really doesnt bother me

OH forgot, I currently have two 3.5 inch HDDs plugged into an external case with a raid controller, so the two 2tb HDD are spanned into one 4tb hdd. IF I put them in my case will that mobo allow me to span them without losing any data?
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why is the SSD really bad?

OS dual booting really doesnt bother me

OH forgot, I currently have two 3.5 inch HDDs plugged into an external case with a raid controller, so the two 2tb HDD are spanned into one 4tb hdd. IF I put them in my case will that mobo allow me to span them without losing any data?

ocz = crap and poor poor support. Get crucial or intel. If you must go with a cheaper ssd, go Corsair force but the crucual m4 can be had for good prices these days.

Your raid question, I am going ti say chances are - no.

as for ram, if you are trying to save every dollar go 8 gig with two 4 gig chips. But, with ram being so cheap now, honestly, 16 gig is the way to go. People can debate the need for it, but once Win 8 comes out the game changes again. I went 16 gig from 8 on my last build and can see a difference.

I would also bump that power supply up to at least 700 watts if you are considering a 580 or anything power hungry. You do not want to be replacing power supplies for a simple graphics card upgrade later
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ocz = crap and poor poor support. Get crucial or intel. If you must go with a cheaper ssd, go Corsair force but the crucual m4 can be had for good prices these days.

Your raid question, I am going ti say chances are - no.

as for ram, if you are trying to save every dollar go 8 gig with two 4 gig chips. But, with ram being so cheap now, honestly, 16 gig is the way to go. People can debate the need for it, but once Win 8 comes out the game changes again. I went 16 gig from 8 on my last build and can see a difference.

I would also bump that power supply up to at least 700 watts if you are considering a 580 or anything power hungry. You do not want to be replacing power supplies for a simple graphics card upgrade later

I've never had any issues with my OCZ Vertex 2, and I'm pushing a year and a half of use. In the time I've owned mine I've seen 3 Crucial SSD's fail on friends' builds.

OCZ may not be the best SSD to get, but it surely isn't "crap".

As for RAM, what exactly would you ever do to have full 8GB of memory usage? Considering near 100% memory usage is the only reason for jumping to a higher memory amount. As for Win 8, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to run easier than 7, which would require less memory to do the same tasks.

I've had 4GB of RAM for two years now, and have never seen higher than 40% usage. Thats while running several CAD and spice programs, while playing GTA IV.
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Ok well there is this PSU:

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/750w-...-year-warranty

and it is modular so thats a bonus.

Does anyone have any comments about the TV card?
I basically just want freeview with HD channels so will that be alright?

Do you think everything will fit in the case alright?
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From the case review it seems that it is sound under load....
Do you not think it wil fare well?

I just looked at your particular case; it should do well. It is easy to keep 140mm fans quiet and have them still be effective.

Although, while you certainly do not need a significant overclock for your tasks, you shouldn't expect a significant CPU overclock using the stock Intel cooler. You should be able to comfortably push an Ivy Bridge chip further than a Sandy Bridge chip using the stock cooler.

If you do go with an aftermarket cooler, the smaller Noctua heatsinks should fit in that case just fine. I'm using Noctua as a reference point. That Lian Li case supposedly fits coolers with a maximum height of 140mm. Noctua's smallest tower heatsink will fit in that case.

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I may consider waiting on the CPU however as the 3660K will be a release Ivy bridge it may be a little unreliable.....

I'm not sure what you mean here. If it's a chipset concern, Ivy Bridge and Sandy Bridge chips will work on the same motherboards. But, if you are going to wait, you may as well get an Intel Z77 motherboard. Companies like ASUS have already unveiled some Z77 boards.

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My audio reciever has a hdmi connection but I believe it is hdmi out not in, I was planning on connecting via optical out, which the mobo has, but I have been told that iti s a problem for gaming....

It could be a problem. You want a sound solution that supports Dolby Digital Live or DTS Interactive for gaming surround sound using an SPDIF connection. Some integrated solutions on motherboards have support for these encoding technologies, but I'm not sure which ones outside of some Gigabyte models.
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I thought the case might be quite a good one, I just have some minor concerns about fitting in a GPU, a Sound card and a tv tuner card.
Will I also need some form of raid controller for my spanned hard drives?

I have linked to a aftermarket cooler I was going to use, but do you think the one you suggested would be better?
If so do you happen to have a link to it?

What I meant by the CPU being unreliable is that the the 2500K is one of the last in the line of sandy bridge is it not?

I would have thought (from a common sense approach) that when the ivy bridge are released they will be first in that line and so past experience tell me that first releases can tend to have problems....


In regards to sound solutions, someone on another forum suggested these sound cards, do you think either of those will be sufficient?

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-...o-presentation
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-...e-ampifier-oem


I have also been told conflicting opinions on what PSU to get, I have been told that the 600W is fine but from elsewhere I have been told to go for a 700W (for when I get a decent GPU). If possible, I'd let to see what the consensus on this matter is....
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I thought the case might be quite a good one, I just have some minor concerns about fitting in a GPU, a Sound card and a tv tuner card.

The graphics card should be the only concern when it comes to expansion card fit. The Nvidia Kepler GPU(s) will soon be announced and you'll then know about card size.

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Will I also need some form of raid controller for my spanned hard drives?

The Intel motherboard chipset supports RAID. You will have to start over with your current RAID array if you're moving it to a new chipset, so plan accordingly and backup your important data if you haven't already done so.

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I have linked to a aftermarket cooler I was going to use, but do you think the one you suggested would be better?
If so do you happen to have a link to it?

I missed that. That cooler is well regarded for the price.

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What I meant by the CPU being unreliable is that the the 2500K is one of the last in the line of sandy bridge is it not?

I would have thought (from a common sense approach) that when the ivy bridge are released they will be first in that line and so past experience tell me that first releases can tend to have problems....

That logic does not apply to CPUs. You can buy any Intel CPU without having to worry about reliability.

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I have also been told conflicting opinions on what PSU to get, I have been told that the 600W is fine but from elsewhere I have been told to go for a 700W (for when I get a decent GPU). If possible, I'd let to see what the consensus on this matter is....

A good 600watt power supply is fine for any single-GPU graphics card along with your other components. That said, I go with 750watt power supplies myself.

Any time you have a question about power supply quality, it is best to read reviews from professional sites and NewEgg user experiences.
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Thanks for the helpful info.

Id like to know a bit more about my HDDs and the mobo.
As such my two HDDs are not set up in a RAID configuration (not stripped between discs) they are instead spanned, will the mobo support that? If so will it be possible for me to just shove them into the mobo and not lose my data? Span doesn't work the same way as RAID (eg getting the connectors the wrong way around for SPAN doesn't corrupt you data whereas for RAID0 it does). I really don't want to go down the software RAID route as it will be a problem when dual booting.
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Great advice from Msmith83 about power supplies. It's better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it with those.
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Thanks,

Id still like to know about the spanned hard drive situation if anyone knows anything.

Also I intend to get a remote and it just occurred to me I'll need an IR receiver, problem is the case doesn't have any form of mount for an IR receiver, so does this mean I'll have to have a USB receiver which is outside of the case?


EDIT

As the Lian Li does not have an IR receiver I am contemplating getting a different case, how does this one look?
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/antec...x-case-w-o-psu

Reviews seem good with one bad mention of the HDD cooling isnt great. Have many people used this? Is it silent and does it offer good cooling? Any other comments?
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I've never had any issues with my OCZ Vertex 2, and I'm pushing a year and a half of use. In the time I've owned mine I've seen 3 Crucial SSD's fail on friends' builds.

OCZ may not be the best SSD to get, but it surely isn't "crap".

As for RAM, what exactly would you ever do to have full 8GB of memory usage? Considering near 100% memory usage is the only reason for jumping to a higher memory amount. As for Win 8, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to run easier than 7, which would require less memory to do the same tasks.

I've had 4GB of RAM for two years now, and have never seen higher than 40% usage. Thats while running several CAD and spice programs, while playing GTA IV.

sorry, I stand by what I said. With Win 7 or Vista 64 bit, 8 gig is noticeably better. Very rare cases only need 16 gig right now, but its cheap now so you can fill the board now or regret not doing it when the price doubles. Anyone buying a lian li case is probably not worried about the $50 difference between 8 or 16 gig. Any new machine with kess then 8gig in it ain't worth building/ buying. Just my opinion

cad will actually run on almost anything...depending on what your doing with it.

I have been in this field over 30 years. I do not know of any new release of Windows that didn't need more ram. You?

3 ways you can build a machine. Penny pinch and do bare minimum, which everyone regrets doing . Try to get a little more then average machine with the hope it lasts longer. Or go balls out and buy the best and probably waste a lot of money doing it.

..and yea, I think OCZ is junk. Nothing but issues with their stuff and after looking after 1000's of machines over the years, I am not recommending them.

And I agree with the guys above, get a modular psu. Makes a ton of difference and can even save you if a video card in the future needs a unique connector, just buy the connector.

my 2 cents that is all.
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thansk for the info, im planning on having at least 8gb anyway

Im thinking of not getting the Lian Li case because it does not have an ir receiver built in.

Instead I am looking at this:

Antec Fusion Remote Max
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/antec...x-case-w-o-psu

I love to hear any input about this. I read somewhere that they have a HDD cooling problem (As well as HDD installing problems). Any info at all would be great, would definitely like to know about cooling and noise.
I have read around that the LCDs on this case are faulty, is that still a problem?

Would also like any input in regards to my spanned HDD situation from previous post.
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I've never had any issues with my OCZ Vertex 2, and I'm pushing a year and a half of use. In the time I've owned mine I've seen 3 Crucial SSD's fail on friends' builds.

OCZ may not be the best SSD to get, but it surely isn't "crap".

As for RAM, what exactly would you ever do to have full 8GB of memory usage? Considering near 100% memory usage is the only reason for jumping to a higher memory amount. As for Win 8, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to run easier than 7, which would require less memory to do the same tasks.
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If you've seen the failure rate for OCZ in general at my buddy's store I build for, you'd never buy ANY ocz product again. Literally a apple box full of SSD drives that have failed because of any number of reasons. Intel and crucial? So far I think the last count was 10 SSD's combined for both companys in over 2 years. There is a very good reaosn OCZ has a crap name in the pc world.
Their drives are perfectly fine if they are working properly, some of the fastest but IMO I wouldn't even use one if I got it for free after my own experiences with my vertex 3 (3 dead units in 2 months) and agility 2 (2 dead units in 8 months)
My crucial drives 2 x 128gig M4's, 2 x 256 M4's, intel 320 x 160gig x 2 all running fine from day 1 in 2 of my personal gaming rigs.

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Well, I think it is agreed upon that Intel's track record, 5-year warranty, quality software and excellent performance makes the 120GB Intel 520 SSD the most attractive option if you're willing to pay a bit of a premium.
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I'll drop the OCZ then

Anyone have any comments about the case I mentioned in the post above (The Antec)
Also any comments about the spanned hdds?
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It's hard to agree that an OCZ drive is junk, when mine has worked perfectly since day one. Regardless of the high failure rates of some of their other drives, this particular drive didn't have such high rates. It was a cheap SSD with decent performance, and nothing more. With those expectations, and a slight risk involved with going with OCZ, considering some of their other products have plenty of negative reviews, it's hard to not be satisfied with your purchase. An equivalent Crucial drive was substantially more money than the OCZ with a fairly low failure rate.

I agree with everyone that OCZ isn't the best, but calling it junk is a bit extreme. As long as you keep your expectations in line, and understand the risk involved, you should be fine. BTW, I was given $120 on an Amazon giftcard and really wanted an SSD, I didn't exactly have many options at the time. Ha.

Newfmp3,

Saying Cad would run on almost anything depending on what you're use is, is like saying Battlefield 3 would run on almost anything depending on what your settings are. That doesn't make much sense really.

As someone who used a Dell laptop with a Celeron 1.6ghz with 512mb RAM for years in college, and worked on numerous systems with low-end specs, I can tell you Cad programs are not usable on "almost anything". It may "run" but it will be relatively useless.

Windows 7 is the perfect example of a new release that required less RAM to have equal performance as it's predecessor, Windows Vista.

When you compared 4GB to 8GB in your Windows 7 system, did you simply do a memory upgrade? Or did you upgrade other components as well? Also, when upgrading from 4GB to 8GB did you simply add a few more sticks of the same type of RAM?
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Anyone have any comments about the case I mentioned in the post above (The Antec)
Also any comments about the spanned hdds?

I've never transferred a spanned, non-RAID drive array from one controller to another. Perhaps the people who frequent AVS' regular HTPC section could be of better help.

They should also be of much better help with regard to the TV tuner card.

As for the case, what's wrong with using a USB IR receiver? There are numerous ways you can hide it. In my opinion, the Lian Li looks like too good of a solution in terms of cooling and hardware accommodation to dismiss it based on the IR receiver.
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I would love to hear some suggestions about hiding the receiver because I really really do like the Lian Li case...
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It's hard to agree that an OCZ drive is junk, when mine has worked perfectly since day one. Regardless of the high failure rates of some of their other drives, this particular drive didn't have such high rates. It was a cheap SSD with decent performance, and nothing more. With those expectations, and a slight risk involved with going with OCZ, considering some of their other products have plenty of negative reviews, it's hard to not be satisfied with your purchase. An equivalent Crucial drive was substantially more money than the OCZ with a fairly low failure rate.

I agree with everyone that OCZ isn't the best, but calling it junk is a bit extreme. As long as you keep your expectations in line, and understand the risk involved, you should be fine. BTW, I was given $120 on an Amazon giftcard and really wanted an SSD, I didn't exactly have many options at the time. Ha.

Like I said, when they work, they are fine. It's not like the failure rate is 50% or something like that but the vertex 3 maxiops were at a 18% failure rate. You gotta admit thats pretty bad lol. Not every single one of their drives are crappy but when a companys failure rate is double or triple that of anothers, it's a good enough reason to look elsewhere if you are buying something from without ever having one before.
Though not as bad a the corsair Force 3 it was a 100% failure rate LOL

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I recently upgraded my Lenovo R400 from the factory 2gb to 8gb Corsair RAM. Huge bump up in speed and bootup times (2gb for Windows 7 completely chokes it), but even when playing Minecraft I've never used more than 4gb of RAM. Where the extra RAM helps is video editing. And my Intel Core 2 Duo processor is the limiting reagent there.
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I am in the process of building my HTPC too, will be doing some light gaming as well.
I have choosen the i5 2500K as well.
For the case you could look at SilverStone CW02 as well.

Here is a youtube review of the case.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYR3HHrpKVk

http://www.silverstonetek.com/produc...d=138&area=usa

The case is deep enough to accommodate the tallest CPU Cooler, I am planning to use the best and the tallest CPU cooler in the market, the Thermalright Silver Arrow, it will fit just fine in this case, u cud also try noctua.
You could add 6 HDD's to the case. Looks like it handle longer video cards as well. Has a nice and neat small imon lcd display.
USB 3.0 header, 120mm fans and individual 92mm fans for cooling the HDD, u cud also mod a little and add 120mm fans for the HDD.

If you havent brought the PSU, u shud look at Seasonic X series.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYR3HHrpKVk.
The hybrid Silent fan control is a good feature for the htpc, and ideal for power consumption on idle use.

I am also looking at OrigenAE's S21T case, though they are a bit pricey, but still not as expensive as ppl who add two high end graphic cards and highend water cooling loop. For a system that can do both, i think spoiling ourselves a little bit is justified.

For motherboard any Z68 Asus Mobo is good. Choose a mobo with enough Sata ports, front and rear usb 3.0 headers, PCI 3.0, and u r golden. U can also look for Asrock Extreme Gen3 series. I presonally like Fatal1ty.
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.as...20professional
Its got 10 sata ports, more raid controllers, an independent raid controller costs over 200 dollars.. so anything extra on this mobo is a bonus. Dual Lan, if in the future u plan to attach a NAS, this makes ur network for file transfer more robust.

I am waiting for the Kepler too. Choose a GPU with 28nm chip, this will consume less power, and keep the gpu cooler. Kepler is 28nm chipset based. If u cant wait, u cud go for a HD 7750,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161403
It will cost u around 109 dollars, once the kepler arrives, u cud sell the 7750 on ebay.. or cud use it as crossfire.
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