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There is an Ebay listing for Wolfie, the new order, that the owner is selling used and will send the username tied to its code. He will send the CD's, also.

What does Steam think of that?

Can anyone have several usernames attached to the same email?

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That seems to me like it's a violation of Steam's EULA. I believe you can't sell accounts, and this looks to be around that realm.
My advice is to stay safe and keep it to new, unopened games or software.
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Parts for my first build are on their way! How'd I do? I know I will need a mouse and key board. I also plan on using xbox 360 controllers I have laying around. Ultimately, I will add a decent cpu cooler if I venture into overclocking.


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Parts for my first build are on their way! How'd I do? I know I will need a mouse and key board. I also plan on using xbox 360 controllers I have laying around. Ultimately, I will add a decent cpu cooler if I venture into overclocking.


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Let's try again. Sorry!

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Let's try again. Sorry!

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Looks great. You did your shopping well.


I'm using Logitech's G700s, which is great as long as you have rechargeable batteries or can plug the charging cable in easily. It will work both wirelessly or through USB (to reduce latency).
If you want an HTPC feel, their DiNovo Edge is a slick keyboard with a trackpad. A bit pricey, though.


Enjoy your new PC! I just built my new one a few months ago, and last time was about 7 years ago. A great feeling, indeed!
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I've been looking at these new intel CPU's wondering if I can survive another cycle with my i7 960. Should I upgrade or stick it out?

Also noticing the gaming MBs all have these improved sound cards and headphone amps that are all but useless in this era of PCs. Where was all this crap before the GPU's were providing the sound, when it would have been worth something?

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I've been looking at these new intel CPU's wondering if I can survive another cycle with my i7 960. Should I upgrade or stick it out?

Also noticing the gaming MBs all have these improved sound cards and headphone amps that are all but useless in this era of PCs. Where was all this crap before the GPU's were providing the sound, when it would have been worth something?

I say just hold out for Broadwell. Haswell-E isn't bad, but Broadwell is coming soon enough

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I say just hold out for Broadwell. Haswell-E isn't bad, but Broadwell is coming soon enough

I'd say hold out for skylake even. Broadwell isn't going to offer much over Haswell beyond better power consumption and integrated graphics that you won't use, and the same goes for ivy and sandy bridge before that. At least with skylake you'd be able to move up to DDR4, i7's might be hex core, maybe PCI-e 4.0, NVME SSDs should be mainstream and who knows what else.

Honestly very little has changed with CPUs since you bought your i7, and since you're still running a quad core with 8 threads, I'd say you're good for a while yet. Maybe overclock it and get a small boost? I don't think your CPU is holding you back unless you have ambitions for 120fps, 3D, VR or 3x/4x SLI.
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I'd say hold out for skylake even. Broadwell isn't going to offer much over Haswell beyond better power consumption and integrated graphics that you won't use, and the same goes for ivy and sandy bridge before that. At least with skylake you'd be able to move up to DDR4, i7's might be hex core, maybe PCI-e 4.0, NVME SSDs should be mainstream and who knows what else.

Honestly very little has changed with CPUs since you bought your i7, and since you're still running a quad core with 8 threads, I'd say you're good for a while yet. Maybe overclock it and get a small boost? I don't think your CPU is holding you back unless you have ambitions for 120fps, 3D, VR or 3x/4x SLI.

Looks like we're getting Octo-Core i7's and DDR-4 with Haswell-E this fall

http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/07/04/oc...g-this-autumn/

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Looks like we're getting Octo-Core i7's and DDR-4 with Haswell-E this fall

http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/07/04/oc...g-this-autumn/

Only like $3000 a chip.

God, it's been so long since intel had any competition in the high end. It's like they're not even trying anymore.

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Skylake has the added expense of the new ram with the motherboard. Maybe even new PSU.

Well, I'll hold out for at least broadwell and see how it goes.

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Only like $3000 a chip.

God, it's been so long since intel had any competition in the high end. It's like they're not even trying anymore.
Eh, only $999 for the flagship. My point is though, you don't have to wait for Skylake to take advantage of DDR4 or true octa-cores.

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I'm looking forward to doing a Haswell-E microATX build. The 5820K is quite attractive with 6-cores and overclockability, and of course an expected price of under $400.

People might gripe about the chip "only" having an expected 28 PCI-e 3.0 lanes, but that's much more than enough for a mere mortal like me who simply plans on installing a single GPU and hopefully one or two future consumer level PCI-e 3.0 SSDs with NVMe.
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Eh, only $999 for the flagship. My point is though, you don't have to wait for Skylake to take advantage of DDR4 or true octa-cores.

True. I dunno what it is though, but something about the high end intel platform doesn't sit right with me. I'm normally all for overkill and I'm fully aware of the diminishing returns on value at the high end, but it still feels like some outrageous ripoff that I just can't swallow. It's like these are the chips that should be our "normal" i7's by now, but intel is getting away with highway robbery (and holding progress back) because no one can challenge them. They're taking their sweet time with broadwell and triple dipping on Haswell. Z97 is nothing more than a z87 rebadge, etc. So while I like what I see with Haswell-E, I'm inclined to pass on it because I don't want to encourage them.

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True. I dunno what it is though, but something about the high end intel platform doesn't sit right with me. I'm normally all for overkill and I'm fully aware of the diminishing returns on value at the high end, but it still feels like some outrageous ripoff that I just can't swallow. It's like these are the chips that should be our "normal" i7's by now, but intel is getting away with highway robbery (and holding progress back) because no one can challenge them. They're taking their sweet time with broadwell and triple dipping on Haswell. Z97 is nothing more than a z87 rebadge, etc. So while I like what I see with Haswell-E, I'm inclined to pass on it because I don't want to encourage them.
Oh I agree, I see no reason for ME to upgrade since I'm on a Haswell anyway, but if I was on a first gen i7 I might consider it. I figure my next CPU upgrade will be Skylake-E lol.

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I do wonder how expensive DDR4 modules will be upon launch. It sounds like the prices could be sky-high, even for just four 4GB sticks.
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I do wonder how expensive DDR4 modules will be upon launch. It sounds like the prices could be sky-high, even for just four 4GB sticks.

Yeah, I bet. But at least it'll last you through a few upgrades.

Even though I bought a 4790K and a z97 board, it does feel like a half assed upgrade. The only real update to the platform is m.2 and SATA-E ports, and they're all 2x and useless. At least if it had DDR4 I'd feel like I'm buying into the next generation instead of the dying gasp of the last one.

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