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im pretty dissapointed by the support for 16:9 widescreen on the PC, ESPECIALLY EA sports games. so not only does EA have the PC sports market cornered, but it does not support widescreen as it does on the xbox. what gives ???

madden 2005
mlb 2005
fifa 2005
tiger woods 2005
to name a few

now for my point. i understand that we using HTPC on HDTV's are a very small percentage of their total software consumers, but with the recent deluge of 16:10 Dell ultrasharp monitors hitting the market, doesnt it seem like EA could help us out with custom resolutions??? while i know little about the innards of computer software, everything ive seen tells me that most computer games are hackable when it comes to their resolutions supported, so 16:9 is somewhere in there. how hard would it be for EA to come up with a universal solution to all their sports games. and how can they support it on the xbox and not on the PC.

the tigerdave widesceen forums are far less helpful than i would think they should be. i dont understand why everyone with a widesceen monitor isnt raising hell. what do you all think about this issue
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has anyone tried a petition to EA, im sure combining efforts we could get a whole lot of signatures to send them.
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Is there a setting in TW 2005 XBox version for widescreen or does it auto adjust according to dashboard settings?
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dont know, dont have an xbox unfortunately
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It's a real shame when games these days don't have widescreen support out of the box, especially considering the number of laptops with widescreen support.
But I think with EA they tend to neglect the small details that we are concerned with. There's no excuse for not having some sort of a patch or something. That goes for all of the newer games. look at Star Wars Battlefront as well. These games are not only non-supportive of widescreen but they are not easy to tweak.
Many games you can just edit a config file, at least that's something to work with but these other games have no excuse.
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I was just thinking about how great it was that most games I have purchased lately support widescreen. I was playing MOH:PA and Brothers in Arms in 1280x768 on my plasma and loving it.

I guess it's all perspective.

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most of the games that i will be playing a ton (hl2, cs:s, battlefield 2, AoEIII) will support widescreen out of the box, but still, i'd like to be able to throw down with some friends on EA sports games and blow their minds how much better it looks than their xbox at 1280x720
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It's a real shame when games these days don't have widescreen support out of the box, especially considering the number of laptops with widescreen support.
But I think with EA they tend to neglect the small details that we are concerned with. There's no excuse for not having some sort of a patch or something. That goes for all of the newer games. look at Star Wars Battlefront as well. These games are not only non-supportive of widescreen but they are not easy to tweak.
Many games you can just edit a config file, at least that's something to work with but these other games have no excuse.

Widescreen is still in its infancy stage on PC's, look how many DVD's in the movie industry are still being released in 4x3 and widescreen TV's are MUCH more mainstream than widescreen PC's. Its really a no brainer, its going to take years before you start to see most games in widescreen.
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There's no excuse. coding a game for widescreen isn't comparable to 4x3 DVD releases and those are because a great number of people want their movies without bars. games can be done 4x3 and 16:9 without having letterbox bars.
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There's no excuse. coding a game for widescreen isn't comparable to 4x3 DVD releases and those are because a great number of people want their movies without bars. games can be done 4x3 and 16:9 without having letterbox bars.
Its not an excuse, its a fact and you really have no choice but to accept it for now. Coding a game had nothing to do with my post, you missed the point. Its very similar with PC games that are still being released on 3 or 4 CD's instead of one DVD. The PC industry feels that not enough people have DVD drives to release games on DVD. Its only been in the last year or so that I've actually seen more than a handful of games being released on DVD instead of multiple CD's. It just takes time for the PC industry to catch up to the latest technology. They are not going to spend money on anything that they feel is not widely accepted. PC gaming is not making the money that console gaming is anymore.
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Its not an excuse, its a fact and you really have no choice but to accept it for now. Coding a game had nothing to do with my post, you missed the point. Its very similar with PC games that are still being released on 3 or 4 CD's instead of one DVD. The PC industry feels that not enough people have DVD drives to release games on DVD. Its only been in the last year or so that I've actually seen more than a handful of games being released on DVD instead of multiple CD's. It just takes time for the PC industry to catch up to the latest technology. They are not going to spend money on anything that they feel is not widely accepted. PC gaming is not making the money that console gaming is anymore.
I didn't miss the point, I dis-missed it because I don't think the two ar comparable. with DVD there are people who atill buy 4x3 because they don't want letterboxing. With games the screen can be configured so there are never any letterbox bars and a choice can be offered simply by a resolution choice.
I realize that the tehnology is going to take time to catch up but I am unwilling to accept the wait and I don't have to as I can vote with my dollars which games to buy. It's a pretty simple matter to include screen resolutions for 1280x720 or 1280x768.
When DVD's first came out most of them WERE widescreen and it continued after that. 4x3 continued to be released because of the demand for it but it's not like DVD made a transition from 4x3 to 16:9.
It did however make a transition to anamorphic DVD and it happened pretty quick.
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I didn't miss the point, I dis-missed it because I don't think the two ar comparable. with DVD there are people who atill buy 4x3 because they don't want letterboxing. With games the screen can be configured so there are never any letterbox bars and a choice can be offered simply by a resolution choice.
I realize that the tehnology is going to take time to catch up but I am unwilling to accept the wait and I don't have to as I can vote with my dollars which games to buy. It's a pretty simple matter to include screen resolutions for 1280x720 or 1280x768.
When DVD's first came out most of them WERE widescreen and it continued after that. 4x3 continued to be released because of the demand for it but it's not like DVD made a transition from 4x3 to 16:9.
It did however make a transition to anamorphic DVD and it happened pretty quick.

Choose to believe what I'm talling you or not, but I've said all I'm going to say about this, arguing is just silly, trust me its going to take time to get what you want.
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Ok, just who is arguing here? I am not even denying it will take time but I want all games to be widescreen and I think they should have it now.
Am I not allowed an opinion here or what?
I have made my point and you have made yours and they are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
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Ok, just who is arguing here? I am not even denying it will take time but I want all games to be widescreen and I think they should have it now.
Am I not allowed an opinion here or what?
I have made my point and you have made yours and they are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
Well, I've already told you WHY its not happening in the near future and you chose to debate with me because you think the reason is silly. I'm sorry if you think the PC industry is silly in their decisions, I'm simply telling you why its happening the way it is.
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Heck, Doom 3 didn't even support widescreen out of the box and you still need to hack .ini's to get widescreen after patches. And that's a game engine that is going to be used for a couple of years at least. So yes it is pretty disappointing.

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Well, I've already told you WHY its not happening in the near future and you chose to debate with me because you think the reason is silly. I'm sorry if you think the PC industry is silly in their decisions, I'm simply telling you why its happening the way it is.
I didn't say anything was silly, I said it was not acceptable to me & I really don't have to accept it because I can choose what to buy and what not to buy. Obviously you feel that you are involved in some sort of argument here but trust me, it's an argument you are having with yourself.

I don't want to purchase games that are not widescreen and for some reason you feel the need to read me a dissertation on the current state of affairs in the PC industry. & for the record I never asked why. I already KNOW why.
On top of that, you chose to compare it to DVD's which IMO is not valid.

Now, for the record, I did not choose to debate anything with you. I made my statement and you felt the need to force your opinion on to me and I don't agree. Please move on.
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Heck, Doom 3 didn't even support widescreen out of the box and you still need to hack .ini's to get widescreen after patches. And that's a game engine that is going to be used for a couple of years at least. So yes it is pretty disappointing.
Yes but at least it can be changed. I'll accept a minor tweak but games like Star Wars battlefront are not acceptable to me and in the future I won't buy a game that has no way to change it with in some frame of change.

I play my games on a widescreen tv so if the game does not support it and it doesn't look right there's little point to buying it.
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I didn't say anything was silly, I said it was not acceptable to me & I really don't have to accept it because I can choose what to buy and what not to buy. Obviously you feel that you are involved in some sort of argument here but trust me, it's an argument you are having with yourself.

I don't want to purchase games that are not widescreen and for some reason you feel the need to read me a dissertation on the current state of affairs in the PC industry. & for the record I never asked why. I already KNOW why.
On top of that, you chose to compare it to DVD's which IMO is not valid.

Now, for the record, I did not choose to debate anything with you. I made my statement and you felt the need to force your opinion on to me and I don't agree. Please move on.

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Yes but at least it can be changed. I'll accept a minor tweak but games like Star Wars battlefront are not acceptable to me and in the future I won't buy a game that has no way to change it with in some frame of change.

I play my games on a widescreen tv so if the game does not support it and it doesn't look right there's little point to buying it.
Yea, sure. Then those game companies can go out of business because people like yourself refuse to buy the games. Why not E-mail or write the company with your concerns rather than doing nothing and just not buying the game which only shows that you aren't interested in the PC game industry.
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Dean's right, it's ridiculous that every game doesn't do widescreen.

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i too would not buy a pc game which cannot support widescreen, and its unfortunate that sports games are the hardest hit as they really benefit from the extra field of view (as do all games really). i dont think its really about money in a sense that it is expensive to program multiple resolutions into the software. im not a programmer but given a decent engine, i wouldnt think it would be a big deal.

anyway, yes its very unfortunate. also unfortunate is the complete and utter dominance by EA in the pc sports genre. i cannot believe i am about to say this, but i think i would enjoy a kick ass soccer game at 1280x720 more than madden stretched or with giant sidebars.

i wonder what the sales stats are on 15.4" and 17" widescreen notebooks, dells new flatpanel lcss are. i know dell has sold an a$$ load of i8500, - i9300 inspirons, and many many people use those laptops to game. just because you are stuck in a world of desktop 4:3 1280x1024 lcd monitors doesnt mean we are fringe or bleeding edge
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Blkout, what specifically here is your problem?
Am I just your target for this week or what?
If you have a specific problem with me take it into a PM.
In the past you have called members out for lying (GT4) told members they were full of doggy doo etc. and I think your subtle insults & barbs on the forum need to stop.
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Blkout, what specifically here is your problem?
Am I just your target for this week or what?
If you have a specific problem with me take it into a PM.
In the past you have called members out for lying (GT4) told members they were full of doggy doo etc. and I think your subtle insults & barbs on the forum need to stop.
I don't have a problem with you at all and I think you are taking this entirely too personal. I've already said once I'm not going to argue about this and here you are again stirring the pot. Give it a rest.
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Let's see, you came in here and basically told me what a 'no brainer' the whole thing is, accused me of arguing when I was not, badgered me for my opinion, calling me silly and putting out words that I did not use. Yeah I guess I do take stuff like that personally when you insult people you make it personal.
How about focusing on the topic?
Oh I forgot, you explained to us why there is a lack of games and we should just accept it.
Mods, close please it's been covered.
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Let's see, you came in here and basically told me what a 'no brainer' the whole thing is, accused me of arguing when I was not, badgered me for my opinion, calling me silly and putting out words that I did not use. Yeah I guess I do take stuff like that personally when you insult people you make it personal.
How about focusing on the topic?
Oh I forgot, you explained to us why there is a lack of games and we should just accept it.
Mods, close please it's been covered.
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This from the person that goes around telling people they are "full of doggy doo".
Maybe someday you will realize you are up on a high horse and putting people down all the time wasn't the right thing to do after all.

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This from the person that goes around telling people they are "full of doggy doo".
Maybe someday you will realize you are up on a high horse and putting people down all the time wasn't the right thing to do after all.

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