Originally Posted by thebland
Bitstreaming seems to be anecdotally connected to more audio drop out or loss of sound issue than LPCM. Just read the threads here. Onkyo being the biggest offender with their buggy receivers. Moreover, when you bitstream, there is no second audio track. Can't be done. Additionally, there are few HDMI 1.3 receivers worth owning and the majority are under powered in DSPs. This is a problem as not only does the receiver need a lot of horse power to decode the lossless bitstreamed codecs BUT ALSO has to process and post-process them as well. They are tapping out their DSPs. These are the main reasons why the high end has stayed out of HDMI 1.3 and bitstreaming lossless (e.g. Halcro, Meridian, Lexicon, etc). LPCM in my view will be the de facto
audio preference due to all the problems HDMI 1.3 has caused. BD LIVE (2.0 players) are another technical hardship for the BD player owner..
HDMI 1.3 offers nothing sonically or video wise over HDMI 1.2, 1.1. It is pure gimmickry and bug prone and was designed to cost us more money. It also seems to be making the manufacturers pull their hair out!! I went to CEDIA and this was the common thread with all the manufacturers trying to design a 1.3 processor.
I think Krell is considered high-end, and their S-1200 is 1.3.
Most of what you discuss are just early development issues. HDMI 1.3 is still new. Decoding lossless will be as common in tomorrows receivers as decoding DD and DTS is in today's receivers. Even Outlaw is coming out with a 1.3 receiver. Everyone will have them and eventaully all the glitches will be ironed out.
I wish I had a buck for each "how come 'TrueHD' doesn't show up on my receiver?" question in this forum. Not
decoding the audio in the receiver is the thing that is odd to a lot of people. Everyone is used to DD and DTS coming down that optical cable, and that's what they expect to still have with HDMI. It's the integration issues between the existing equipment and the new equipment that is causing all the pain. We're in this transition period where people are trying to work the new stuff in with the old, and it's complicated and confusing.
Now I know everyone in this forum isn't going to like this: There comes a time in the technology where you just have to pitch out the old, and get the new. You do it with PCs, cellphones, etc. A/V gear is no different. HDMI 1.3 is that
time in my opinion. That's what I was waiting for, and when it happened that's when I got a 3800 and a 3808 both at the same time, and with the exception of one small blip that never repeated itself, I have had no problems at all.
that a lot of people in this thread have significant investment in gear, and there's no way they're going to trade in their $5k receivers for a new one just for bitstreaming, and that's fine, but that does not mean that those of us who are upgrading to this technology are falling prey to a gimmic.