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post #631 of 1625 Old 10-30-2008, 09:08 AM
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So the Best Buy Insignia player will bitstream the lossless codecs, which is awesome, but will it decode any of them internally? I did a quick search of this thread and couldn't find the answer.


The current Insignia BD player (like the other Funai-made first general players) only bitstreams the lossless Dolby and DTS formats (i.e., no internal decoding). It appears the new model (mentioned in above post) does internally docode these, but only provides a 2-channel decoded output (useless for most home theater owners), as well as providing a bitstream output.

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I don't see any indication on their web page that this model has an ethernet port or "BD-Live" support. Have you seen one in person.

Engadget seems to think so too...
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/10/30...er-emerges-at/

The Best Buy product page appears to be a copy and paste of their first player, so it's not very helpful.

So is this player based on the newer BD-Live Funai design that was seen a few weeks ago?
EDIT: Nevermind it's pretty clearly a tweaked Samsung BD-P1500.
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Nevermind it's pretty clearly a tweaked Samsung BD-P1500.

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Some photos attached...

And a few more...
it uses the Broadcom BCM7440P chip, so most likely not a Funai design. Retailers and brands can change their player design house with each new model.
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Some photos attached...

Looks different than Samsung's BD-P1500. Unfortunatley the 1500 has the SOC upside down so can't do a 100% match of the main board.

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Whatever this thing is-it's definetly not a Samsung-I'll find out Monday what manufactor this is sourced from (I work for BB at a service center).
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Whatever this thing is-it's definetly not a Samsung-I'll find out Monday what manufactor this is sourced from (I work for BB at a service center).

I happen to see LG BH200 and if my memory serves better, the back panel of that looks similar to what is shown in the picture of Insignia.

Edit : Matches with the Broadcom Chip too. So it seems it's LG?
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If my memory serves, the main processor board looks like the Broadcom reference design, so it could be from a China ODM.

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Does anyone know if the Sylvania NB500SL9 is a knock off of another BR player like sony, samsung, sharp ect? Anyone have one and have any issues? Are there firmware upgrades for this unit should one be needed?
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Does anyone know if the Sylvania NB500SL9 is a knock off of another BR player like sony, samsung, sharp ect? Anyone have one and have any issues? Are there firmware upgrades for this unit should one be needed?

See the early posts in this thread. The Sylvania NB500 is identical to the Magnavox NB500, almost identical to the first generation Insignia BD player at Best Buy, and similar to the Philips BDP7200. These players are made by Funai using a Panasonic Uniphier chipset and a Sony optical pickup, but are not clones of players from any of the major manufacturers. There are no firmware updates released yet and there have only been a very few issues reported with discs playing in these units (mainly issues with not being able to output Dolby TrueHD audio with a handful, or less, of BD titles).

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With Panny BD35 (profile 2.0) selling for about $250, the future of Funai players seem to be doomed.
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Anyone has inside photos of any of the 1st generation Funai players?
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With Panny BD35 (profile 2.0) selling for about $250, the future of Funai players seem to be doomed.

Some of the Funai players everyday price is below $200. Sale prices will probably be less.

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If my memory serves, the main processor board looks like the Broadcom reference design, so it could be from a China ODM.

The new Insignia player is made by Desay, a chinese manufacturer.

Example of why forums shouldn't tie manufacturer and brand names together...

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Some of the Funai players everyday price is below $200. Sale prices will probably be less.


Black friday Wal Mart will have the Magnavox for 128. Giddy up on that
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Since there are NO firmware updates for the Magnavox/Insignia/Sylvania player, what happens if it won't play a disc??? Basically, it will NEVER play that disc right? What a joke.

Does this thing play the Bond films that gave so many players problems??????

Is there any known disc that it won't play?
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Since there are NO firmware updates for the Magnavox/Insignia/Sylvania player, what happens if it won't play a disc??? Basically, it will NEVER play that disc right? What a joke.

Does this thing play the Bond films that gave so many players problems??????

Is there any known disc that it won't play?

If a disc is properly authored, it will play. There have always been discs that do not conform to proper authoring techniques that give players problems. This has been true back to the DVD days.

Some would argue that it is up to the player manufacturer to offer firmware fixes to accomodate these discs. Others would say it is a problem for the disc manufacturer.

I have the Mag player and it has played every disc I have put into the tray. The only exceptions are rentals with obvious scratches on them. No firmware will fix those.

If my Mag plays 99% of the titles sold, I'm happy without firmware updates. BR will likely be replaced in a couple of years by either some new format or downloaded content.
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Since there are NO firmware updates for the Magnavox/Insignia/Sylvania player, what happens if it won't play a disc??? Basically, it will NEVER play that disc right? What a joke.

Does this thing play the Bond films that gave so many players problems??????

Is there any known disc that it won't play?

As I mentioned earlier, my MAG suddenly stop playing blu-ray disks. It converted itself to a standard DVD player. Fortunately (just for the heck) I had taken service plan. But the player is sitting with the service provider since about 4 weeks and is not expected to get out for at least 2 more weeks.

I jumped the ship today and bought BD35. Once Mag comes back, it will go in another room and will be a backup in case BD35 gets a fever.
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This thread reminds me of the APEX DVD player threads from various forums in the early days of cheap DVD players.

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I concur.

Did you have several audio breakups and a couple of video breakups on Sunshine? I had read of that being a problem with the Panasonic BD-30 for that disc, but it was corrected (afaik) with new firmware. I'm hoping there's a similar correction coming from Funai.

I played Sunshine last night on my Insignia NS-BRDVD and there were two superbrief pauses in the video. The first pause wasn't repeatable but the second pause was.
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I just bought the Sylvania NB500SL9 Blu-ray player. My German wife has several Region 2 discs that I was able to play on my previous (hacked) DVD player. Are there any region code hacks available for the Sylvania player yet?
Apparently, the player is the same or similar to the Magnavox NB500MG9.

I can't find any codes on the 'net so far. Any help would be appreciated
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One european player is the Sigmatek sbr1000 and it seems to be also a clone of Funai.
We can use any DVD or bluray by using this code with the remote : 973501, you have to use this code each time you turn off the power and change DVD region.
Insert your DVD, say wrong region, open, use remote for 973501 then close, it's done.
Please let me know if this is ok on the Magnavox.
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I can confirm the Insignia plays For Your Eyes Only (the most problematic according to Sony and Samsung users), From Russia With Love, and Live and Let Die.



ALSO, found out Casino Royale CE doesn't bitstream TrueHD with this player. Has same issue as Batman Begins where DD 5.1 is passed.
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MAG now goes down below $130 on BF at wally world
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If a disc is properly authored, it will play. There have always been discs that do not conform to proper authoring techniques that give players problems. This has been true back to the DVD days.

Some would argue that it is up to the player manufacturer to offer firmware fixes to accomodate these discs. Others would say it is a problem for the disc manufacturer.

I have the Mag player and it has played every disc I have put into the tray. The only exceptions are rentals with obvious scratches on them. No firmware will fix those.

If my Mag plays 99% of the titles sold, I'm happy without firmware updates. BR will likely be replaced in a couple of years by either some new format or downloaded content.

My mag also has played every BD that I have thrown at it with out one problem.except one that had a crack in it from netflix.It has perform way better that I ever thought it would.For under $130 this will be a steal.But I do want one that will decode the newer HD sounds like the panny 35
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Hi, I picked up the Insignia blu-ray from Best Buy recently. I just have an older Yamaha receiver that cannot handle the newer audio formats. Just DD and DTS.
I'm using the optical audio output on the player. I have the hdmi input hooked to my tv set.
I'd like to be able to choose between just using the tv speakers and the surround sound when I watch a movie.
Is it really necessary to mute the audio output on the hdmi? I tried doing this and set the digital out to bitstream, but couldn't really notice a difference versus the PCM setting.
Also, when I compared both settings and hit Display on the Insignia remote, both times it showed PCM 2 channel. So, I found that confusing also.
If I just leave the audio at factory default, it seems to be fine for either using the tv speakers or the surround sound. It shows DD on my Yamaha receiver, for example.
Any tips?
P.S. Sorry for the crosspost. I posted this question in the Insignia at a Best Buy Near You thread but there was no reply.
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Anyone with the Magnavox have problems playing Tropic Thunder? I tried 2 different discs, (new) neither would load...I've had mine since Fathers day and had no problems till this...
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MAG now goes down below $130 on BF at wally world

I think I'm gonna jump on this on Black Friday. I just won a $100 gift card from a work contest, so this will basically just cost me about $30 out of pocket, and I've been needing to upgrade my DVD player anyway. Bottom line question, is this thing worth $30? I've been on the fence about getting a BD at all, but I figure I could just look at this as an upgraded DVD player that will also play BD's.

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Anyone with the Magnavox have problems playing Tropic Thunder? I tried 2 different discs, (new) neither would load...I've had mine since Fathers day and had no problems till this...


Played fine on my Mag player. Mag is connected to an Onkyo 606 via HDMI. Viewed the movie at 1080p24. Disc was a rental from BB.
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Anyone with the Magnavox have problems playing Tropic Thunder? I tried 2 different discs, (new) neither would load...I've had mine since Fathers day and had no problems till this...

I just watched it and everything worked fine. It was from Netflix.

You didn't miss out on much.

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