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post #181 of 211 Old 06-26-2009, 10:27 AM
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Maybe but the player is on sale at Best Buy. You gonna try it? Has this player been reviewed as far as you know? Thanks!

Here is a review:
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/blu-r...ay-player.html
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Here is a review:
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/blu-r...ay-player.html

great review - wish cnet were half this thorough.

sounds like the 1800 is nearly identical to the onkyo save the missing optical output, zoom feature, and divx.
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It is identical to a Marantz BD7003 I think. . Marantz and Denon are owned by the same parent company. Marantz has also just announced a new player the 7004 which is identical to the new denon 2010ci.

The one advantage to the Marantz, is they offer a three year warranty.

I don't see as big a deals on the Marantz 7003 like you do on the denon. A couple of sites have the denon for as low as 300.
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It is identical to a Marantz BD7003 I think. . Marantz and Denon are owned by the same parent company. Marantz has also just announced a new player the 7004 which is identical to the new denon 2010ci.

The one advantage to the Marantz, is they offer a three year warranty.

I don't see as big a deals on the Marantz 7003 like you do on the denon. A couple of sites have the denon for as low as 300.

The unspoken rumor is the Onkyo DV BD606, Marantz 7003, and Denon 1800 are all built by Funai and re-badged for each CEM. Features very somewhat and I think featureset makes the Marantz the higher end, then denon, then onkyo. Pricing reflects that as well.
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The unspoken rumor is the Onkyo DV BD606, Marantz 7003, and Denon 1800 are all built by Funai and re-badged for each CEM. Features very somewhat and I think featureset makes the Marantz the higher end, then denon, then onkyo. Pricing reflects that as well.

The Denon and Marantz have the Panasonic chips in there, I don't know if that makes them Funai or not.
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The Denon and Marantz have the Panasonic chips in there, I don't know if that makes them Funai or not.

Just picked up an 1800 at BB on sale. Performance is nearly identical to onkyo, but there appears to be some different hardware - case in point the eject time when powered off is much faster on denon than onkyo (24 vs 14 seconds).

The results of the tests are posted on my comparison thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post16730719
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Just picked up an 1800 at BB on sale. Performance is nearly identical to onkyo, but there appears to be some different hardware - case in point the eject time when powered off is much faster on denon than onkyo (24 vs 14 seconds).

The results of the tests are posted on my comparison thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post16730719

FYI - I returned the denon this evening. amazing what $350 buys you today and could not justify keeping this ageing player.
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FYI - I returned the denon this evening. amazing what $350 buys you today and could not justify keeping this ageing player.

I don't care about the frills and have a capable pre-amp so it came down to the most reasonable basic bluray player. The Denon was $291, I imagine that the Panasonic BD60 can be had from $200 to $240 range. Assuming that the Panasonic is considered to be as it good as it gets for the price point, then for me, spending another $50 or so gets me a full width componenet, double the weight and maybe a tad better audio. The Denon has roughly the same bluray picture and is just as fast, I see this player as a nice budget option.
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I don't care about the frills and have a capable pre-amp so it came down to the most reasonable basic bluray player. The Denon was $291, I imagine that the Panasonic BD60 can be had from $200 to $240 range. Assuming that the Panasonic is considered to be as it good as it gets for the price point, then for me, spending another $50 or so gets me a full width componenet, double the weight and maybe a tad better audio. The Denon has roughly the same bluray picture and is just as fast, I see this player as a nice budget option.

Did you look at the Pioneer 320 or JVC XV-BP1? JVC has blown me away and the Pioneer is very strong save a few foibles.
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I don't care about the frills and have a capable pre-amp so it came down to the most reasonable basic bluray player. The Denon was $291, I imagine that the Panasonic BD60 can be had from $200 to $240 range. Assuming that the Panasonic is considered to be as it good as it gets for the price point, then for me, spending another $50 or so gets me a full width componenet, double the weight and maybe a tad better audio. The Denon has roughly the same bluray picture and is just as fast, I see this player as a nice budget option.

The Denon is $291? I don't like using mail order though. BB is 5 minutes from me to return a player if it doesn't thrill me.
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Did you look at the Pioneer 320 or JVC XV-BP1? JVC has blown me away and the Pioneer is very strong save a few foibles.

Pioneer 320 I briefly had, it is fine. What do you like about the JVC, I am curious as it does look interesting.
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The Denon is $291? I don't like using mail order though. BB is 5 minutes from me to return a player if it doesn't thrill me.

I hear you and prefer locally too but sometimes the savings is worth the gamble.
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Pioneer 320 I briefly had, it is fine. What do you like about the JVC, I am curious as it does look interesting.

What did you not like about the 320 - layer change? The JVC is very quick, as good as the oppo in synthetic deinterlacing tests, and cheap. It does lack tweaking menus (not even basic NR), so I caution anyone about it with very large displays.
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What did you not like about the 320 - layer change? The JVC is very quick, as good as the oppo in synthetic deinterlacing tests, and cheap. It does lack tweaking menus (not even basic NR), so I caution anyone about it with very large displays.

So it is a good basic player and fast, thanks. I liked to 320, it just wouldn't pass HDMI audio when connected via component video. Do you see differences when comparing bluray pq? I think they are all similar video wise for bluray.
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So it is a good basic player and fast, thanks. I liked to 320, it just wouldn't pass HDMI audio when connected via component video. Do you see differences when comparing bluray pq? I think they are all similar video wise for bluray.

I am of the school of thought that 90% of bd images at 1080p 24fps are nearly identical on normal sized displays. From $100 magnavox to $1000 pioneer. Tweaking aside, I agree with you.
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So it is a good basic player and fast, thanks. I liked to 320, it just wouldn't pass HDMI audio when connected via component video. Do you see differences when comparing bluray pq? I think they are all similar video wise for bluray.

One of the reasons why I returned it. Unfortunately, it isn't the PQ that is the problem with most of the players as all have some other issue or problem.
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anybody see the new denon 1610 in action yet?
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The Denon is $291? I don't like using mail order though. BB is 5 minutes from me to return a player if it doesn't thrill me.

I see you're in Jersey. 6th Ave has this player advertised in today's paper for $248.95, if you're interested. Most likely BB will price match it.

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anyone ever get into the service menu of this player?
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I see you're in Jersey. 6th Ave has this player advertised in today's paper for $248.95, if you're interested. Most likely BB will price match it.

Mike T

FYI - I took this and the Onkyo 606 apart today - same player underneath. Onkyo can be had for about $50-$100 less if you can do without the zoom feature (which distorts the image pretty heavily).

I posted a picture of the back of the low end funai clone - the magnavox 1.1 player - back panel is almost indentical with trademark upsidedown hdmi input.
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I also think this player is identical to the Magnavox and Sylvania units made by Funai.

http://www.sylvaniaconsumerelectroni...9/feature.html

The remote is identical to the Onkyo's - the rear panel is identical to both the denon and onkyo. Wonder if the performance is identical to the $100 version at wal-mart?
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Upgrading my Home Theater. I replaced my previous Denon receiver and Denon DVD with newer Denon AVR-1910 and Blu Ray DVD-1800BD. I think the DVD unit I got is broken. I have NO output from DVD on HDMI for video or sound. Component video, regular analog video, and the 2 analog sound outputs work fine. I double checked the HDMI input port on receiver using same HDMI cable to another HD component no issue. Made sure the receiver HDMI input port was set for HDMI Auto. I connected the DVD with HDMI directly to an HD TV to bypass the receiver. Still no HDMI output (no signal detected). In the DVD setup menu all of the HDMI video output parameter items are grayed out. So I go back and re-read the manual 3 times. Tried changing some non-grayed items in DVD setup thinking I had to enable or change something else to get the HDMI output turned on. No luck.

I checked my DVD serial number on Denon.com for any firmware upgrades - none for my serial number. After a Tech Support phone call to OneCall.com they are now sending me a new replacement unit. Hate to send this back if it's something I am overlooking. I am not a novice to HT gear but I am perplexed on this one. Anyone else having this HDMI issue with the DVD-1800BD?
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Upgrading my Home Theater. I replaced my previous Denon receiver and Denon DVD with newer Denon AVR-1910 and Blu Ray DVD-1800BD. I think the DVD unit I got is broken. I have NO output from DVD on HDMI for video or sound. Component video, regular analog video, and the 2 analog sound outputs work fine. I double checked the HDMI input port on receiver using same HDMI cable to another HD component no issue. Made sure the receiver HDMI input port was set for HDMI Auto. I connected the DVD with HDMI directly to an HD TV to bypass the receiver. Still no HDMI output (no signal detected). In the DVD setup menu all of the HDMI video output parameter items are grayed out. So I go back and re-read the manual 3 times. Tried changing some non-grayed items in DVD setup thinking I had to enable or change something else to get the HDMI output turned on. No luck.

I checked my DVD serial number on Denon.com for any firmware upgrades - none for my serial number. After a Tech Support phone call to OneCall.com they are now sending me a new replacement unit. Hate to send this back if it's something I am overlooking. I am not a novice to HT gear but I am perplexed on this one. Anyone else having this HDMI issue with the DVD-1800BD?

Have you tested its connection to a hdmi input that has worked? can you get sound out of the two channel analogues?
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Yes I have. First thing I did when problem was detected. As I posted above ... I double checked the HDMI input port on receiver using same HDMI cable to another HD component no issue. Component video, regular analog video, and the 2 analog sound outputs work fine..
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Is this player a good up-scaler? I just found one for a decent price but know very little about this machine. Quirks? How does it compare to the Pio 51FD and such?

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Is this player a good up-scaler? I just found one for a decent price but know very little about this machine. Quirks? How does it compare to the Pio 51FD and such?

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click on my signature; i would categorize its upconversion as very much mediocre.
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Upgrading my Home Theater. I replaced my previous Denon receiver and Denon DVD with newer Denon AVR-1910 and Blu Ray DVD-1800BD. I think the DVD unit I got is broken. I have NO output from DVD on HDMI for video or sound. Component video, regular analog video, and the 2 analog sound outputs work fine. I double checked the HDMI input port on receiver using same HDMI cable to another HD component no issue. Made sure the receiver HDMI input port was set for HDMI Auto. I connected the DVD with HDMI directly to an HD TV to bypass the receiver. Still no HDMI output (no signal detected). In the DVD setup menu all of the HDMI video output parameter items are grayed out. So I go back and re-read the manual 3 times. Tried changing some non-grayed items in DVD setup thinking I had to enable or change something else to get the HDMI output turned on. No luck.

I checked my DVD serial number on Denon.com for any firmware upgrades - none for my serial number. After a Tech Support phone call to OneCall.com they are now sending me a new replacement unit. Hate to send this back if it's something I am overlooking. I am not a novice to HT gear but I am perplexed on this one. Anyone else having this HDMI issue with the DVD-1800BD?

Received new replacement unit - this one works fine. I got a bad first unit for the HDMI port.
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This player is widely available for under 200 right now - I'm debatind this and the roku vs a streaming player.

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I will try to keep this as brief as possible. My hookups are Denon 1800BD to Denon 2809 via HDMI. Denon 2809 connected to HDMI2 on LG 60PS80. I have an intermitent video drop out problem. Was watching "The Searchers" and about an hour in it was dropping in and out like crazy. After awhile it quit. When it dropped out I would get the "no signal" message on the LG. When the movie was over I went back to those areas and they played find. On other movies I have noticed very brief blinks. Before this all happened I had been having other problems. My Motorola cable box is connected to the receiver via Component video. The HDMI out on the Motorola is connected directly to HDMI1 on the LG. I am also running a Component video hookup from the receiver to the LG. I started having dropouts on this hookup to the point that I had to ditch the connections from the reciever and use the direct to LG (HDMI1) connection. I will also mention that the problems are much worse with the cable box than they are with the Bluray.
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I've got a Denon DVD1800BD Blu-Ray Player and a Samsung UN19C4000 TV and in the setup menu of the blu-ray player there is an item that refers to HDMI Resolution and you can choose between:

Auto
480p
720p
1080i
1080p
1080p24

Right now it's set on Auto. I was just wondering if that's the way it should be set. According to the Samsung site my TV has 720p. So is that what is referred to as the native resolution? The resolution that the TV is designed to work best with?
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