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post #91 of 172 Old 11-02-2008, 04:10 PM
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Although I am a techno geek, I'm not versed on the specs. of Blu Ray equipment. I will say that I know that "what I see is what I get."

I bought and played the 2550. I have an Onkyo TX-SR605 receiver with the SKS-HT750 7.1ch Home Theater Speaker Package.

Results:

Positives: The 2550 played Blu Ray discs flawlessly! Great picture, Great sound. My Receiver identified the optimum audio and even changed the input of my Samsung Flatscreen. Something the average guy wants to see.

Negatives: The 2550 has a weak front display. You could barely see it from 8 ft. away and beyond. Also, My Onkyo receiver's remote does not recognize the player. I called both Onkyo & Samsung. Both point the finger at each other. Personally I think the unit is so new that my situation wasn't thought about before production. This is common.

On the other side, I bought the 1st generation Onkyo DV- BD-606 Player thinking that it would solve my remote compatability concern. I was even told this by the Onkyo Tech. help people beforehand. Well, I ordered and received the unit. Not only was it not compatable with the Onkyo remote (one year old) but it took an awefully long time to change inputs and bring on the first menu.

Too add a final note, I transferred 51 DVD's worth of home movies from VHS tapes recorded 10 years ago and earlier. I transferred these tapes using a Dell 8300 series puter with plenty of hard drive space & memory. A consumer VHS/DVD combo player discriminated on smoothly playing some of the trannsferred DVDs. Some Discs would just pause and sync/ pause and sync. The Samsung 2550 played all DVDs flawlessly. The Onkyo was no better than that 4 year old comsumer combo unit.

Which unit do you think I will keep? The Samsung is obviously more flexible in what it plays. Picture quality . . . outstanding. Onkyo compatibility and Tech support . . . dissappointing!

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Although I am a techno geek, I'm not versed on the specs. of Blu Ray equipment. I will say that I know that "what I see is what I get."

I bought and played the 2550. I have an Onkyo TX-SR605 receiver with the SKS-HT750 7.1ch Home Theater Speaker Package.

Results:

Positives: The 2550 played Blu Ray discs flawlessly! Great picture, Great sound. My Receiver identified the optimum audio and even changed the input of my Samsung Flatscreen. Something the average guy wants to see.

Negatives: The 2550 has a weak front display. You could barely see it from 8 ft. away and beyond. Also, My Onkyo receiver's remote does not recognize the player. I called both Onkyo & Samsung. Both point the finger at each other. Personally I think the unit is so new that my situation wasn't thought about before production. This is common.

On the other side, I bought the 1st generation Onkyo DV- BD-606 Player thinking that it would solve my remote compatability concern. I was even told this by the Onkyo Tech. help people beforehand. Well, I ordered and received the unit. Not only was it not compatable with the Onkyo remote (one year old) but it took an awefully long time to change inputs and bring on the first menu.

Too add a final note, I transferred 51 DVD's worth of home movies from VHS tapes recorded 10 years ago and earlier. I transferred these tapes using a Dell 8300 series puter with plenty of hard drive space & memory. A consumer VHS/DVD combo player discriminated on smoothly playing some of the trannsferred DVDs. Some Discs would just pause and sync/ pause and sync. The Samsung 2550 played all DVDs flawlessly. The Onkyo was no better than that 4 year old comsumer combo unit.

Which unit do you think I will keep? The Samsung is obviously more flexible in what it plays. Picture quality . . . outstanding. Onkyo compatibility and Tech support . . . dissappointing!

Sincerely,

Don Seddio

Don,

as for the remote issue, buy the 606's remote from shoponkyo for less than $20. it will control your samsung. no idea if it will control the onkyo (but if it does, we know whose hardware they shopped).
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Hello,
can the Onkyo BD 606 force 1080p24?

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Has anyone bought this device? I struggle to understand why since it's awfully expensive ($450 street price) relative to its feature set (lacking internal decoders and BD Live/Profile 2.0). Am I missing something?
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anyone bought this thing? anyone even seen it in action? pciture quality? SD upconversion? Is it nothing more than a magnavox?
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Looks like it's not worth the money:
http://whathifi.co.uk/Review/Onkyo-DV-BD606/
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^^ Thanks for posting the review link. I do not agree with any degraded pq on BD. I love this player, very fast performance and the BD pq looks the same to me as all other high-end BD players.

Personally, I rate this new BD player very highly, nice build quality and excellent bullet proof fast performance.

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I have to agree with Robert. My neighbor actually has one so I played with it a little. Very nice pic Q and not bad load times either. It does have that Onkyo feeling with it. I would get one if I didn't already have enough Blu ray units....

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So it looks like Funai did a good job
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There's this review as well: http://www.buyblurayplayers.com/excl...ay-player-2451

I struggle to put much stock in this review - how would a firmware upgrade make the onkyo profile 2.0 without an ethernet port?
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^^ Thanks for posting the review link. I do not agree with any degraded pq on BD. I love this player, very fast performance and the BD pq looks the same to me as all other high-end BD players.

Personally, I rate this new BD player very highly, nice build quality and excellent bullet proof fast performance.

-Robert

I am sure it is a decent, well built player, but for $450 I think I would rather opt for two panasonic 35s!
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I have been using this player for about a week now and it is very nice.

The Build is very Onkyo it matches well with the receivers. Its quiet, the tray is solid and quick and the front display is very legible. The remote is on the cheap side, but since I won't be using it if I decide to keep it it doesn't matter, but they should still have something better in the box.

The menus are very simple but not lacking, you can force 1080/24 if you need to and it is a pretty quick machine. It boots up faster than the Panny 30 and the Samsung 5000 that I have. So far it has played every disc I have thrown at it, unlike the Samsung.

Picture quality is as far as I can tell identical to the Panny and Samsung but with one exception, the color are more accurate. I have it running to a Onkyo 905(with the Reon shut down) and then to a Sony Pearl projector at 120". I have everything calibrated and with the other two players I had the Blue and Red spot on but the Green was just a shy off. With the Onkyo the colors are all dead on. And while watching movies it just seems more acurate on everything. Its nice. It's not a huge problem with the other stuff but you can definetly tell if you do a A/B back a forth.

Audio quality is another place where realy it excels. I run everything bitstream to Onkyo 905 and let it do all the work but for whatever reason the Onkyo 606 does a nicer job with the sound than the others. It is more detailed and has better seperation.

On regular DVD's it seems like it does a decent enough job. It's not as nice as the Samsung but no worst than the Panny. But the sound once again is better than either of the other two.

The big question is if it's worth the money. It cost more than the new Panny's out there which I have not seen but are known to be great. For the price $400 you can get the Panny 55 or two 35's. I am done buying Samsungs(this is my second player that has a hard time with movies and no firmware upgrades to be seen). And the Oppo is right around the corner. Which so far sounds like it will be pretty nice and Oppo has a good track record with firmware upgrades like Panny and unlike Samsung.

It pretty much boils down to if you have the extra cash then its nice but you can buy allot cheaper unit like the 35 and get a good player for a lot less. The Onkyo's only flaw is its price. This thing is worth about $250 not $400.
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so might slightly illogical penchant for all things onkyo led me to pick up a dv bd606 at frys yesterday for $450 (gulp). I have the hd dv805 and really wanted to justify the money and complete manufacturer symmetry with it and my 906. Long story short, I just got back from returning it to frys.

I compared it to the four other blu ray capable devices i own: Samsung BDP2550, Panasonic DMP BD35, LG BH200, and PS3.

First the design: I found it very bland and the front of it to have nearly a retro vcr feel. That said, it does not look that different from my hd dv805. The remote is thick and bulky - looks cheap and has a striking resemblance to one for a toshiba dvd recorder I got for under $100.

Second the performance: I found blu ray performance was very good. Similar to Panasonic and PS3, but color did not seem as good as my Samsung 2550. Load times were not noticeably quicker - the Panny won this race on three blu rays. Audio on TrueHD and DTS HD Master Audio was good. Similar to all three. I struggled to hear the difference (I was bitstreaming to my 906). As for dvd upconversion, the Onkyo was the worst of all four. The Samsung's reon chip looked the best in color and detail. The onkyo was washed and felt there was noise where it was not visible on others.

Why it went back to Frys: I am in agreement with Carbo; this is a decent player, but with its feature set (no internal decoding; only profile 1.1; and mediocre SD upconversion), it cannot justify a $450 pricetag. No question. The Samsung 2550 is equal in blu ray performance, better at SD upconversion, is profile 2.0 AND can stream HD netflix and pandora internet radio for $350. I got my Panasonic 35 for $225 and it outperforms the Onkyo and is technically more future-proofed.

I think Onkyo made a great player for when they should have released it - mid 2007!!!
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I'll be returning it also. I like it and think its decent but it should be priced at $250, This is not worth the money. I paid just under $400 at Amazon. If it was $250 and the Oppo wasn't around the corner or I couldn't buy the Panny for less I might have kept it. The only reason I can think for keeping it is for the match with the Onkyo 905.

I have been using the Samsung 5000(with the latest firmware and the PS3 as a back up) for a long time now and before that the Panny 30. But the Samsung is probably not going to work sooner or later unless Samsung continues to release firmware and I don't think they will be. And it slowly has been having more problems with newer discs.

I moved the Panny back to the main HT and put the Sammy out in the living room and decided to try a newer player like the Onkyo to see if they had gotten any better. From what I can tell so far it looks like they have improved the sound on the newer players.
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Is there a newer onkyo blu ray player coming for 2009, The BD606 like a cheap player to me I hope they have some high end player's coming out for 2009.
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Is there a newer onkyo blu ray player coming for 2009, The BD606 like a cheap player to me I hope they have some high end player's coming out for 2009.

Onkyo did designate this blu ray as the 6 series whereas they designated their hd dvd as the 8 series. begs the question if this is their middle of the road player???

Still doesn't make sense at $450 even if middle of the road. This unit needs to be priced competitively with the Panny 35 and Sony 350 (ie $225 to $250)
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Onkyo did designate this blu ray as the 6 series whereas they designated their hd dvd as the 8 series. begs the question if this is their middle of the road player???

Still doesn't make sense at $450 even if middle of the road. This unit needs to be priced competitively with the Panny 35 and Sony 350 (ie $225 to $250)

I hope they have a DV-BD907 for 2009
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I hope they have a DV-BD907 for 2009

amen to that...let's just hope they release something that is up to date in respects of profiles, does decent sd upconversion, and can decode the hd audio codecs. embarassing the panny 30 and sony 350 out-perform it at half the price.
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amen to that...let's just hope they release something that is up to date in respects of profiles, does decent sd upconversion, and can decode the hd audio codecs. embarassing the panny 30 and sony 350 out-perform it at half the price.

Amen to that brothers, I Just bought a 550 sony Region B player but I'm looking at a new Region A player hopefully High End So I'm waiting out Onkyo, Or I will go for the Sony 5000ES model if they don't bring one out Onkyo.
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Better make plans for the S5000ES or the new Pioneer 09FD. Onkyo will not have a new Blu ray player most likely until 2010. And that is from a solid source...

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Better make plans for the S5000ES or the new Pioneer 09FD. Onkyo will not have a new Blu ray player most likely until 2010. And that is from a solid source...

Joe,

Did you know if the reason is because the BD606 is not selling well if at all?
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Better make plans for the S5000ES or the new Pioneer 09FD. Onkyo will not have a new Blu ray player most likely until 2010. And that is from a solid source...

That not good
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That not good

Real shame they didn't have a great player to play catchup after the hd dvd player (which was arguably the best out there even if it was a thinly diguised toshiba xa2).

That said, I don't know it makes sense to invest in a high end blu ray player (ie north of $350) due to the ever-changing nature of the media itself. Think about how prices have dropped in three years, then couple it with slumped demand from the economy. I think the days of cheap players priced at under $150 is soon. This will help shake out the marketplace and better define it was as dvd players were five years ago.
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I know the 606 should see a significant price drop pretty soon (early 09). I would bet a lot has to do with the slow sales. Onkyo needs to make their own player from scratch (SP1000 style) and they know it.

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And I am not saying the 606 is not a good Blu ray player. It is actually pretty darn good. Just priced wrong when compared to other players below it and their performance. I agree with one of the posters above. This would have been a great player in 2007.

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