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I think if you look at region free dvd players out there you may find one that meets your needs, and it won't cost very much. (I'm not really clear on what your needs are, but ebay and some online websites do sell them, so you should be able to find something.) A good number, probably most/all, of them will have analog outputs (there's no HD audio copy protection to deal with for dvds), probably many of them will have hdmi, but there likely won't be any with dual hdmi (that's more of a blu-ray player thing), and anyway for dvd digital audio all you need is coax or optical (or analog).

As far as blu-ray players, Oppos come with 2 year warranty and Oppo has a good reputation for product support (at least in the U.S.), so extended warranty is probably a waste of money with them, as they are pretty solid machines. Other blu-ray players, it would depend on whether or how easy it would be to mod them (or find them already modified) to also play your foreign dvds, which was your original question, and their quality can very a lot.

Of course things are probably not quite so easy in Canada. Anyway good luck in your search.

The need really is to make the Panasonic blu-ray player recognize disc that are (I think?) multi-region, not region-free. And as always, cost has to be considered. Otherwise I could just spend thousands and rip out the entire installation, change all the wiring and amplifiers, etc. I'm looking for effective and efficient. So far the best I can think of is a workaround involving dubbing and reauthoring any discs that don't work.

Downgrading to a DVD player isn't really a solution, as the whole purpose of the superior amplifier and the various audio output methods is to preserve sound quality.

I guess with Oppo I find that paying 15-25x times the going price for a player isn't realistic for me, and even if it were, they should at least include a lifetime warranty, or something commensurate with their retail price multiple. Charging $100 for an extra year of warranty? I can't support that.
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The need really is to make the Panasonic blu-ray player recognize disc that are (I think?) multi-region, not region-free. And as always, cost has to be considered. Otherwise I could just spend thousands and rip out the entire installation, change all the wiring and amplifiers, etc. I'm looking for effective and efficient. So far the best I can think of is a workaround involving dubbing and reauthoring any discs that don't work.

Downgrading to a DVD player isn't really a solution, as the whole purpose of the superior amplifier and the various audio output methods is to preserve sound quality.

I guess with Oppo I find that paying 15-25x times the going price for a player isn't realistic for me, and even if it were, they should at least include a lifetime warranty, or something commensurate with their retail price multiple. Charging $100 for an extra year of warranty? I can't support that.

Seems like some exaggeration going on but whatever. Your cheapest bet would probably be to rip the disc and reformat it somehow on your pc. There's likely no hardware solution that would meet your criteria of zero cost.

Anyway I'm signing off this thread, didn't realize I was still on it until your original post. Recycled my BD50 a few weeks ago.
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Oppo audiophile BDP is $1299 here, plus $99 for extended warranty.

Multiples I based on comparison to Philips 3D blu-ray players which are typically $49 (so approx 26x) or something more robust for $79 (would be 16x)
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As a BD50 owner who transitioned to an Oppo BDP-93 a few years ago, I'd like to put in my two cents.

When I got the BD50, I was already using an old Denon DVD-2910, which was in addition to being a CD/DVD player, also a DVD-Audio/SACD player.

With the two of them hooked up to the same pre-HDMI AVR via their multichannel analog ouputs (with a multichannel passive switchbox - no eletronics to introduce noise), I began to notice that the same CD or music DVD sounded better played on the Denon than the Panny - probably because the Denon's analog output was engineered to bring out the best from DVD-Audio disks and SACDs.

My motivation for getting the Oppo - which was their entry-level $500 machine - was to bring the sound from Blu-ray music disks up to the level of the Denon, since the Oppo is also a DVD-Audio/SACD player.

That I did accomplish, but I also noticed that - contrary to the common belief that all Blu-ray players put out the same image from Blu-ray disks - the image from the Oppo was also better than from the Panny.

And when I decided to order the British DVD box sets of Quantum Leap and the Emma Peel Megaset of the old British Avengers TV series, I was able to make the Oppo region free for DVDs (though not for Blu-rays) by downloading a free ISO called the SuperDisk, burning it to a disk, and putting it into the player. It spun it around for a little while and then ejected it as indigestible, but was thereafter DVD region free - which has survived several firmware upgrades without having to be done again.

If you're going to insist on XLR outputs and a separate power supply for the audio section, you'll end up paying the kind of money you're talking about for the BDP-105 series, but the $500 BDP-103 or $600 BDP-103D (which bundles in Darbee Darblet circuitry that costs $200 separately, to provide the kind of intelligent sharpening that photographers use Photoshop for) will do fine - and will serve as a mini-preprocessor as it has HDMI inputs and extends its video processing to anything fed through it.

Personally, I'm sticking with my 93 because it has a composite video output jack that can be used to navigate its network streaming menus to play FLACs I've loaded onto my PC's external hard drive without firing up my projector. Fans of the later machines use graphical interfaces on their PCs, tablets or phones to "push" music to their players; my older Oppo has to "pull" material via its menu system.

Comparing these devices to $50 commodity machines is about as valid as comparing the rest of your system to what you can find on the cheap in the local Best Buy.

PS I still have the Panny, for when I want to find out whether it really is interesting to watch the Blu-ray of The Wizard of Oz while listening to the surround version of Dark Side of The Moon.


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