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As a happy BD30 owner for almost 6 months, I am trying to justifying upgrading to the BD50 so soon. I am not all that much into special features like BD-2.0 Live, I'm pretty much just interested in the BD feature presentation and do not have any Divx files. Having said that, are there any significant improvements in both picture and sound quality over the BD30?

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As a happy BD30 owner for almost 6 months, I am trying to justifying upgrading to the BD50 so soon. I am not all that much into special features like BD-2.0 Live, I'm pretty much just interested in the BD feature presentation and do not have any Divx files. Having said that, are there any significant improvements in both picture and sound quality over the BD30?

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None. If you don't need the analog outs or Profile 2.0 capabilitites, save your money and keep the BD30...that's what I did.

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I agree with Dave Vaughn save your money.

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None. If you don't need the analog outs or Profile 2.0 capabilitites, save your money and keep the BD30...that's what I did.

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I agree with Dave Vaughn save your money.

I use HDMI exclusively and have no use for 2.0 profile. Is there any reason one would chose analog over HDMI?

Thanks for your input!
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For me, getting the BD50 to replace my BD30 will mean I will never need to put a Blu-ray Disc in my PS3 again. As soon as BestBuy gets them in stock I will get one. As long as it's a least $100 below retail like they currently are at other stores.

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I'm sure the LFE bug is not present in the BD50, just like it was fixed in the BD30.

The second guy you quoted it lowering his base level because he has too much, not the other way around. Let's not try to stir things up.

+1

Let's get this out of the way now.

The Panasonic BD50 DOES NOT HAVE THE LFE BUG!

Every BD I have played on it has been absolutely crushing LFE.

So far the BD50 IS the player we have all been waiting for and has really lived up to it's hype.

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Just a quick review of my new BD50. Paid $575 from local electronic store in Ottawa.

Easy set up, first time HDMI handshake with my Denon 4308 (soon to be replaced by the 5308).

Great PQ on Blue Ray and pleasantly surprised that it seems to be sharper on SD than my Pioneer DV-58avi. Further evaluation to follow on that.

Menu tree easy to follow / adjust. Have not really changed anything significant yet from the defaults.

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For me, getting the BD50 to replace my BD30 will mean I will never need to put a Blu-ray Disc in my PS3 again.

Could you please elaborate, is there a problem with your BD30? And what's so bad about the PS3?
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Could you please elaborate, is there a problem with your BD30? And what's so bad about the PS3?

No internal decoding.
Noise.
BD50 trumps both these units (shame about the cost).
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No internal decoding.
Noise.
BD50 trumps both these units (shame about the cost).

I am still on the fence about upgrading from my BD30 to the BD50. Are you saying the BD50 has internal decoding and the BD30 does not? I bitstream all audio to my Onkyo 905 and it does a great job, especially with advanced lossless multi-channel audio codec. Besides having 7.1 analog outputs and 2.0 Profile, what makes the BD50 so much better?
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I haven't heard of any menus being recorded in 1080p/24 so it sounds like your BD30 was doing the right thing. Are you talking about the pop up menu that appears while the movie is still playing in the background?

I haven't seen any disc menus that were not 1080p/24, every title I have ever played the menus are 1080p/24

this is not what I was asking, I am asking about the internal setup menus and the splash screen with BD logo when a disc is stopped or there is no disc in the unit, can the BD50 do a straight 1080p/24 output including these items?, unlike the BD30 that displays the internal setup menus and splash screen at 1080p/60 only

I also had the problem of the BD30 resetting to auto HDMI resolution mode, this and the above are a total PITA for some systems and I would love to hear about he BD50 in this regard

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+1

Let's get this out of the way now.

The Panasonic BD50 DOES NOT HAVE THE LFE BUG!

Every BD I have played on it has been absolutely crushing LFE.

So far the BD50 IS the player we have all been waiting for and has really lived up to it's hype.

I thought the BD30 had a firmware upgrade to fix the LFE issue. Am I wrong?
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No, you are correct. It has been fixed for months.

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Is there a 1.2 firmware update for the US BD50? i only seem to be able to find one for the EURO bd50
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I haven't seen any disc menus that were not 1080p/24, every title I have ever played the menus are 1080p/24

My PS3 has a 1080p/24 forced mode going to my Pioneer plasma. It only kicks in (and there is a visual indication onscreen) when the film starts playing but not during the menus. Why would main menus need to have a "film like quality"?

Apologies for not being able to answer your original question.

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I'm sure the LFE bug is not present in the BD50, just like it was fixed in the BD30.

The second guy you quoted it lowering his base level because he has too much, not the other way around. Let's not try to stir things up.

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I'm sure the LFE bug is not present in the BD50, just like it was fixed in the BD30.

The second guy you quoted it lowering his base level because he has too much, not the other way around. Let's not try to stir things up.

I PM'ed you a response I got from Bob Pariseau. It seems we now have to worry about an analog LFE bug now. If anyone is interested in the full explanation, PM me and I will forward Bob's message.

I deleted Pajax's quote from my post as I agree now that it is preference and not relevant but wjmeyer's post was very relevant.

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I don't think the BD50 has a LFE issue. I never had a BD30, but I do have a RCA HD-DVD player that has the LFE issue and needed to set all 5 speakers levels from -10 to -12 to get adequate bass from the subwoofer.
I used my radio shack sound level meter to recheck the settings on the 6 speaker levels in my BD50 (with HDMI sound on Off) and I set my 5 energy speakers to -2 to -3 to get my energy 8" subwoofer volume equal to the center speaker using a Dolby/DTS test dvd. I might also mention that I am not the type that likes overimposing subwoofer levels, but I so like to hear the "thump" when the dinosaur in "A Night at the Museum" is walking down the hall.
I have another speaker level test dvd and will continue to test speaker volume levels to see what my final settings will be. Plus I've only watched 2 movies so far, and I also factor that into my final speaker volume levels.
To those of you new owners who have set your levels, what -X settings did you make?
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Has anyone seen if CC or BB will be carrying the Panasonic BD-50 in stores? So far I just see it for order on CC on line...
My problem is I don't have someone around to watch for the package..
Does CC let you have it shipped to the store for pickup?
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Has anyone seen if CC or BB will be carrying the Panasonic BD-50 in stores? So far I just see it for order on CC on line...
My problem is I don't have someone around to watch for the package..
Does CC let you have it shipped to the store for pickup?
Thanks,
Rick

Yes, if it's not a pre-order and they do have them available, you can select how you want to get it when you check-out, have it shipped or they will list several local CC's, according to your zip code, so you can choose which store you want to pick it up.
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Has anyone seen if CC or BB will be carrying the Panasonic BD-50 in stores? So far I just see it for order on CC on line...
My problem is I don't have someone around to watch for the package..
Does CC let you have it shipped to the store for pickup?
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Isn't this the owners thread?
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Isn't this the owners thread?

Theoretically.....however it appears the only units that have been received were demo units not ready for final sale - some number were mistakenly distributed and sold prior to the final production firmware to be available at the end of July....as such, there are very few people with these in hand and no one has the true production firmware - hence no owners exist of the actual production release.

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My PS3 has a 1080p/24 forced mode going to my Pioneer plasma. It only kicks in (and there is a visual indication onscreen) when the film starts playing but not during the menus. Why would main menus need to have a "film like quality"?

Apologies for not being able to answer your original question.

no problem, I don't have a answer for the reason, but the BD menus on 99% of releases are encoded as 1080p/24, I guess it makes for more of a seamless playback between menu and film(including pop up menus) and saves space all while delivering a progressive image

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Theoretically.....however it appears the only units that have been received were demo units not ready for final sale - some number were mistakenly distributed and sold prior to the final production firmware to be available at the end of July....as such, there are very few people with these in hand and no one has the true production firmware - hence no owners exist of the actual production release.

Are you sure you're not confusing this with the Pioneer 51FD? I thought the Pannys that have been sold are final.

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Theoretically.....however it appears the only units that have been received were demo units not ready for final sale - some number were mistakenly distributed and sold prior to the final production firmware to be available at the end of July....as such, there are very few people with these in hand and no one has the true production firmware - hence no owners exist of the actual production release.

Huh? Don't know where you get your info from, but it's a fact that **************** had received a shipment and sent them out to people with pre-orders.

to each his own...
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And this is an "international" forum, and the BD50 has been sold in Europe for some time already. So yes, there are real owners with real and final product.
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My player was delivered overnight from CC 2 days ago. Works great!

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Theoretically.....however it appears the only units that have been received were demo units not ready for final sale - some number were mistakenly distributed and sold prior to the final production firmware to be available at the end of July....as such, there are very few people with these in hand and no one has the true production firmware - hence no owners exist of the actual production release.

I think you have the BD50 confused with the Pioneer BDP-51

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/07/18...arts-shipping/

The Panasonic BD50 has been trickling into the US through Canada for about the past 3 weeks.

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Finally got my BD-50 set up this afternoon. Hookup was a snap. I don't have it connected to the internet. I just wanted a good stand alone player. I'm using the 5.1 analog outputs into an Anthem AVM 30 and HDMI straight into my 61" DLP. First impressions is that it is faster in loading Blu Ray's than my Panny BD-10A. It is also quicker in responding to menu navigation on Blu Ray's than the BD-10A did. My 10A has been moved to my bedroom where it matches well with my 32" 1080p LCD.

PQ looks great. Didn't do a A/B comparison against the 10A, but the BD-50 does look a little sharper IMHO. AQ is incredible. Like my previous post stated, my first DTS HD MA title to check out was Live Free or Die Hard. On my BD-10A, I was only able to hear the DTS 'core' track which sounded really good. With the BD-50 and full DTS HD MA, WOW!!!!!!! This soundtrack plain and simple, just kicks you in the ASS!!!!!! Surrounds come alive and there is detail everywhere.

I for one don't have a LFE issue. With my AVM 30 doing all the bass management the BD-50 is rocking.

For any owners of pre/pros or receivers that are able to handle bass management via their analog inputs and don't have HDMI, don't walk, RUN to your dealer and get the BD-50. It is the player to get. Totally impressed with the BD-50. Well done Panasonic.

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[quote=Tim Sly;14257838]Let's not turn this into another "the PS3 is better and cheaper than all Blu-ray players" thread! Let the owners talk about their exciting new player in this BD50 Owners Thread.

Please keep all the PS3 and other player talk in the below thread where it belongs:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=969206
The official "Help a Guy Pick a Blu-ray Player" thread

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I can't understand your reasoning. - If, in the opinion of one or more contributors, the PS3 actually IS comparable or better in certain respects than the BD50 (for reasons A, B, or C), then I for one would like to be able to read their remarks and consider their reasoning before deciding which unit to buy. I see no rational basis for censuring comparisons between the BD50 and other potential options (particularly since there have been several favorable comparisons for the BD50 with the PS3, with no negative comments). After all, this is what most of us do when we review various choices and compare them before making decisions for upgrading our systems. However, if you insist on limiting this thread strictly to discussions of the BD50 only, with no discussions whatsoever of the BD50 as it compares with other units, then it seems to me that another discussion thread should be provided for those of us considering the purchase of the BD50 as well as other options, though this seems rather excessive.

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