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The LG BD300 has been officially announced and will be a BD-Live player with Netflix video streaming support. It will be released this fall and according to LG officials the price will be under $500.
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Holy crap! If it decodes DTS MA I'm sold!
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Internal decoding? Analog out? I checked two links, but they didn't have that information.
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I wonder if most BD-Live players won't get this feature at some point. My understanding is that Netflix streaming video is VC-1 encoded with DD audio. Any player can decode this. All they need is a web address to point to and navigate (which any BD-Live player can do), and some code to buffer the download to the BD Live memory, and route the signal to the players onboard decoders.

Seems like this could become as common as DivX decoding, and something that could possibly be added by firmware even.
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Under $500 ?? I was really interested in this player until the Xbox360 announcement, and my parents would still be interested in this player, but when they say "under $500" it suggest to me they're looking at a price of $450-499. No way am I going to pay that much, Blu-Ray manufacturers really need to hit sub $300 for the upcoming holiday season.
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Wow, this is making me doubt my Pioneer BDP-51FD decision

I have an XBOX 360 though and I could just rent NetFlix through this, but wow this is exactly the type of player all Blu-ray players should be!

Vote with your wallet. Don't buy Cinavia-infected Blu-ray Discs! Why pay a premium for pseudo-lossless audio damaged by an intrusive watermark in the audible spectrum?
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I didn't buy a BD player to get streamed stuff. Plus, some people have fast internet providers that have dl limits. Still, if that's what works for you, then go for it.

That's quite a steep price considering there are other players out there already.

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This plyaer is a good idea. Hopefully it does not have any (or to many) issues upon its release...

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Interesting, no wireless. I read a Roku review that said you need 1.5 Mbits per second to get a reasonable quality picture (TV quality according to the reviewer).

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Yes, no wireless is too bad, though what I'm more interested in is it becoming a Bluray version of something like the IO Data LinkPlayer networked DVD player. That thing could play almost anything stored on your network and stream it to the player in addition to local DVDs or USB connected drives/devices. It came w/ its own server software to run on the PC(s), but I used a 3rd party server called Wizd that was nicer and also worked with the Linkplayer. LG I hope would allow streaming from a networked PC but it's not known now if this will work or not on this device. I'd love to know.
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Personally I rather buy the stand-alone Roku for $99 (if in fact I wanted to use it). The feature set should be identical and at this time with strictly SD content (not to mention if the eventual HD content looks like Apple TV's) I don't see any advantage to having it combined with a Blu-ray player.

Also considering the available movies for viewing the service appears suited for casual viewing. Now once Blu-ray players become mainstream it might be nice to have a all-in-one for certain rooms but right now it looks like dead weight to me.
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Dolb Digital Plus? Any Blu's have DD+...me thinks this was suppose to play HD DVDs at some point and time...



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Dolb Digital Plus? Any Blu's have DD+...me thinks this was suppose to play HD DVDs at some point and time...

Based on past history with LG that is possible though a good number of Blu-ray players can decode DD+ including first generation Blu-ray players like the Samsung BD-P1000 and Sony BDP-S1.
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Dolb Digital Plus? Any Blu's have DD+...me thinks this was suppose to play HD DVDs at some point and time...

It has always been Optional on BD players.

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More on the BD300 here:

http://blog.homecinemachoice.com/pag...irst_bd_player

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Dolb Digital Plus? Any Blu's have DD+...me thinks this was suppose to play HD DVDs at some point and time...

That's some leap . It's not surprising to see DD Plus included.

All DVD Players support MPEG Audio but the number of DVDs that actually use it cannot be more than a dozen.
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Two new articles I found, but neither touch upon the analog outputs. Either way, a little more information.

http://www.betanews.com/article/Deta...TVs/1217871636

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10004471-1.html
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under $500 ?? I was really interested in this player until the xbox360 announcement, and my parents would still be interested in this player, but when they say "under $500" it suggest to me they're looking at a price of $450-499.

map $399.
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Dolb Digital Plus? Any Blu's have DD+...me thinks this was suppose to play HD DVDs at some point and time...




The LG Insider mentioned this player six months ago. It was originally the "BH300". Wouldnt surprise me if some units still contain an HDDVD laser (Design change would have been relatively last minute)
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I don't know why I didn't see that back panel picture before. It's small, but it seems like there is only component and composite. Seems silly to have composite on such a high end player.
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Any word on when this fall we might see this? Being a NetFlix subscriber, I am debating getting the $99 Roku box. I'm also researching my first BD player. I like the idea of less boxes in my HT setup, so this is intriguing for me. Besides, it would make the BD player $99 cheaper (virtually speaking).

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Any word on when this fall we might see this? Being a NetFlix subscriber, I am debating getting the $99 Roku box. I'm also researching my first BD player. I like the idea of less boxes in my HT setup, so this is intriguing for me. Besides, it would make the BD player $99 cheaper (virtually speaking).

I'm wondering the same thing. Willing to wait a little while but not months....
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LG kicks off the press conferences here at CEDIA in Denver. After teasing the Netflix-streaming LG BD300 Blu-ray player, a double threat if I ever saw one, they finally told us the price today: $400, well below the $500 mark LG was aiming to stay under. (Keep in mind, the Netflix box by Roku is, by itself, $100.) LG says the BD300 will be appearing in stores by end of this month or first week in October.

Some added BD300 specs:
Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio decoding
USB Media Plus - MP3, JPEG, etc.
BD-Live and BonusView
Full 1080p output including DVD upconverting
Netflix current content: 12,000 movies and TV shows streaming

http://gizmodo.com/5045001/lg-sets-p...reasonable-400

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Anyone else kinda excited about this BD300 player. Looks pretty interesting. Play netflix online, BD and is only $399 at release.

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Notice the display card by the 300 only states support for DTS-HD, but gizmodo is reporting DTS-HD MA. If they are using the same Broadcom chip as the BH200 it will not support DTS-HD MA, it will only support DTS-HD.

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I see that Amazon has the BD300 listed, but no indication of when it will be in stock.

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what can this thing bitstream? and please correct/clarify if i've misstated anything. thanks!

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I doubt it had DTS-HD MA if it's based on the same broadcom chip as the BH200.

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So if the list price is $399, why does Amazon state it is $449 with a $50 "savings"? Is this an outright lie, or just marketing exaggeration/hype?

And if the list is really $399, what will the typical street price be?
Finally, do prices drop after a month or so? (I realize both questions require pure speculation.)
I am looking to buy something before Christmas.
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I saw this at CEDIA and had some extensive demonstrations.

MSRP, $399, expected street price $349. Should be available on the street next month.

Bootup time is PS3 type speed. I tested it on some non BD-J titles from a cold start to playing a Blu-ray movie at around 20 secs. Vastly faster than any other Blu-ray player I have seen besides the PS3.

IIRC It will internally decode DTS-MA and Dolby True HD.

Seamless use of Netflix downloading in its menu system. No 5.1 analog audio outs. Full BD-Live support.

I'm really excited about this box. It seems like the real deal to be a break thru BD-Live Blu-ray product thats fast and under $399. The Netflix support is a bonus.

Only saw Blu-ray content played on this unit, but it looked great.

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Dolby Digital plus also has great potential for streaming media such as Netflix downloads. It can take only a bit more space than DD but can get superior sound fidelity.

Dolby Labs made a big deal in their CEDIA demo of DD+ being very useful for streaming or downloaded applications.

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