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That's indeed how Netflix works. Luckily I have my computer close, so I move all the frequently watched items to the front. I bought mine in Sep 2009. I am now starting to have some problems with certain Bluray disks that won't play. Not sure if it is the player or just the firmware. The last update was in 2008 and there isn't anything newer on the website, so I'm guessing they are no longer supporting it.
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I have a Samsung BD-2550 and I recently upgraded to a Pioneer Elite BDP-62FD. I'd like to know from anyone who has upgraded, what do I have to expect in improvements with a newer player?

Is it worth keeping this player for a bedroom that doesn't currently have a Blu-ray player (but will barely get used) or better to sell it now while it still has value? I also have a DVDO Iscan Pro that looks like it's getting ebay'd or craigslisted if I put the Samsung for sale.
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I have a Samsung BD-2550 and I recently upgraded to a Pioneer Elite BDP-62FD. I'd like to know from anyone who has upgraded, what do I have to expect in improvements with a newer player?

Is it worth keeping this player for a bedroom that doesn't currently have a Blu-ray player (but will barely get used) or better to sell it now while it still has value? I also have a DVDO Iscan Pro that looks like it's getting ebay'd or craigslisted if I put the Samsung for sale.

Not sure how much resale value that the old Samsung player would have as a current model Samsung with more features, brand new, and a warranty can be purchased for $79.99. The Netflix client in the BD-2550 is out of date. But if you want a player in the bedroom for BR's and DVD's then it may be worth keeping. Or upgrade to something newer and give it away as a hand me down to friends or family.
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Anettis, would the new player for $79.99 have just as good video quality. I thought the HQV was what made this special. I could be mistaken as I haven't followed this player in awhile.
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Anettis, would the new player for $79.99 have just as good video quality. I thought the HQV was what made this special. I could be mistaken as I haven't followed this player in awhile.

I think it was special back in the day, but that was years ago. Anyway I replaced both my Samsung BD-2550's with Samsung BD-F5900's, which is a step up from their cheapest current year model. It has all sorts of apps available (in addition to Netflix and Pandora), supports 3-D, internet browsing capability, can use a wireless keyboard, can access DLNA content (on a PC or NAS), etc. I am blown away by how much things have changed. While I did not do any direct comparisons of picture quality, like most technologies I believe in general BR players get cheaper and better over time, particularly when comparing two players from the same manufacturer that are years apart. Perhaps some other owners of the BD-2550 can chime in with a comparison to newer units.
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Anettis, would the new player for $79.99 have just as good video quality. I thought the HQV was what made this special. I could be mistaken as I haven't followed this player in awhile.

The general consensus is that the output for blu rays from modern blu ray players are very similar.
DVD upconversion and processing can vary and there are some more advanced BR players -- eg Oppo -- that help with that.
Also, DVD-A/SACD playback is an issue for some (increasingly fewer) people.

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Hi, everybody!

I was recently given a BD-P2500 by a buddy who upgraded to an Oppo. It worked fine when he last used it. When I brought it home, I updated the firmware to 2.8 (mistake, I know) and now it won't play blu-ray disks. Plays regular DVD's fine, but it either chokes up trying to load or says the blu-ray isn't playable. It's done this for all the disks I've tried. Reflashing and resetting to factory default didn't help.

I'd like to try to downlevel it to 2.7, but I can't find the files anywhere. Does anyone know where I can get them from?? All the links I've found on a Google search are dead. mad.gif
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Hi, everybody!

I was recently given a BD-P2500 by a buddy who upgraded to an Oppo. It worked fine when he last used it. When I brought it home, I updated the firmware to 2.8 (mistake, I know) and now it won't play blu-ray disks. Plays regular DVD's fine, but it either chokes up trying to load or says the blu-ray isn't playable. It's done this for all the disks I've tried. Reflashing and resetting to factory default didn't help.

I'd like to try to downlevel it to 2.7, but I can't find the files anywhere. Does anyone know where I can get them from?? All the links I've found on a Google search are dead. mad.gif

I know it's a long thread (I've been a 2550 owner for years), but I also know that some folks used to keep local/personal copies of the firmware; if you can sort/search through it, you might find those posts. My 2550 is still my everyday DVD/BD player, and while the Netflix client may be old (it still does the job), the video quality on this player is still top-notch even compared to modern more expensive players (and I use it with a projector as well).

Hopefully it's not too late for you, but my motto (with all CE devices) is: only upgrade when absolutely necessary for a required feature.

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I tried searching the thread, but I only found one guy who had older firmware and the link he gave was dead.

However, I got it working last night!! I reflashed the 2.8 firmware again and then unplugged the player from the power source. After letting it sit and plugging it back in again, it actually played a blu-ray! It's till a little temperamental, so I'd still like to find the 2.7 firmware if I can.
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Funny to see this thread rise to the top again. I just unboxed my old 2550 for spare bedroom use and came to the forum to look up reviews of more recent players.

I might have some firmware lurking on my PC somewhere. I'll take a look later today.


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Hi, everybody!

I was recently given a BD-P2500 by a buddy who upgraded to an Oppo. It worked fine when he last used it. When I brought it home, I updated the firmware to 2.8 (mistake, I know) and now it won't play blu-ray disks. Plays regular DVD's fine, but it either chokes up trying to load or says the blu-ray isn't playable. It's done this for all the disks I've tried. Reflashing and resetting to factory default didn't help.

I'd like to try to downlevel it to 2.7, but I can't find the files anywhere. Does anyone know where I can get them from?? All the links I've found on a Google search are dead. mad.gif
As luck would have it, I have a few older versions of the firmware and the 2.7 version is one of them. I can't tell you whether or not you'll be successful in downgrading, FW usually isn't capable of that, but maybe so in this case.

Anyway, if you can figure out a way where I can get it to you (Dropbox, Google Drive, etc.), I'll be glad to, just PM me... wink.gif -TD

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Got it! I'll give it a try later if this thing continues to act up. Thanks a lot!!
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Is there a trick to getting this thing to see the lower level firmware? I put the file I got above on a USB key, installed it in the port on the player, it saw it and connected it, but when I go into the system menu to update the firmware, it tries to use the ethernet. Am I missing a step here?
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Is there a trick to getting this thing to see the lower level firmware? I put the file I got above on a USB key, installed it in the port on the player, it saw it and connected it, but when I go into the system menu to update the firmware, it tries to use the ethernet. Am I missing a step here?

Try killing your ethernet connection and/or turn off BD Live in the menu (I do that anyway...so it doesn't check for updates).

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I did that, but still can't get the player to update the firmware off the USB key. Even changed the date on the 2.7 file to make it newer than 2.8, but still no go.
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Try doing it via CD (I did one of mine that way). After that, I'm out of ideas...

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SUCCESS!!!

Got the CD firmware from tomd51 and flashed the player down to 2.7. Now it seems *fingers crossed* to be working. It's played all three of the blu-rays I have in the house! Woo-hoo!!! biggrin.gif

Thanks a lot everyone, especially you Tom!
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Right on!! cool.gif

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Samsung BD-P2550 1080i over component?

Got this player in a package deal with an Oppo DV-970HD (what I really wanted) and I found that the disc tray would not load because the motor that retracted the spindle was too weak, and there was no way I could shim/bend/finagle it to work. Today I found a lower end but same exact production date Sammy BDP in Goodwill (actually went to get a "new" blender, but hey, gotta look at the trons while I'm there right?) I have already swapped the drives and now it works perfectly.

Question is, it was produced in 2008, so I'm hopeful... anyone know if it will pass a 1080i signal over the component video connections or not? Just trying to decide if this is worth holding onto in case I ever have to lash something up with an old non-HDMI or DVI display or if it's better passed onto a young person building their first system on the cheap. I'm striking out trying to find info online and I don't actually know that I have the ability to test it.

I went to Goodwill this morning because a) SWMBO's blender died and b) GW is closer than any real store and not only did I get a working blender but the drive to fix the Sammy and an old HD-DVD player

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yes it does, n8nagel

Yes, n8nagel, the bd 25xx does indeed push out 1080i through the component outputs. This is limited to bd, avchd, and (why would you use the) baked in streaming. The player will not push out upscaled (reon processed) dvd playback through the analog outputs; only through the hdmi. Good going on the scavenging!
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Cool, then I'll keep it around in case I ever need to use a HD but non-HDMI/DVI display.
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Yes, I can confirm that component video will output 1080i and that's how I have it setup for my old Sony CRT based HDTV (1080i) (....upgrading it soon).

My firmware is: 090419.01_091108B1_1254.08_XAA (what is this?? 2.6 ?? I don't even remember)

You just have to make sure that the default settings on your player are *NOT CURRENTLY* set for 1080p. If so, you will see nothing when you plug in on component video out. To be safe, plug in a 1080p display, and setup it for 1080i, then save the settings then store it away if you're not planning to use it.

A question for you for the disc tray: Where did you get the replacement tray? I have the same issue- the tray would not come out unless I manually flip the tray cover, and forcibly tap the tray itself randomly until the tray finally comes out. What I also noticed was if you have a disc inside the tray to begin with, the eject button and also the remote eject works fine. I think there is dust on a sensor somewhere inside that needs cleaning...
But, again, if you could share where you bought the replacement tray, I'd be eternally grateful. Thanks in advance!


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Got this player in a package deal with an Oppo DV-970HD (what I really wanted) and I found that the disc tray would not load because the motor that retracted the spindle was too weak, and there was no way I could shim/bend/finagle it to work. Today I found a lower end but same exact production date Sammy BDP in Goodwill (actually went to get a "new" blender, but hey, gotta look at the trons while I'm there right?) I have already swapped the drives and now it works perfectly.

Question is, it was produced in 2008, so I'm hopeful... anyone know if it will pass a 1080i signal over the component video connections or not? Just trying to decide if this is worth holding onto in case I ever have to lash something up with an old non-HDMI or DVI display or if it's better passed onto a young person building their first system on the cheap. I'm striking out trying to find info online and I don't actually know that I have the ability to test it.

I went to Goodwill this morning because a) SWMBO's blender died and b) GW is closer than any real store and not only did I get a working blender but the drive to fix the Sammy and an old HD-DVD player
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Yes, I can confirm that component video will output 1080i and that's how I have it setup for my old Sony CRT based HDTV (1080i) (....upgrading it soon).

My firmware is: 090419.01_091108B1_1254.08_XAA (what is this?? 2.6 ?? I don't even remember)

You just have to make sure that the default settings on your player are *NOT CURRENTLY* set for 1080p. If so, you will see nothing when you plug in on component video out. To be safe, plug in a 1080p display, and setup it for 1080i, then save the settings then store it away if you're not planning to use it.

A question for you for the disc tray: Where did you get the replacement tray? I have the same issue- the tray would not come out unless I manually flip the tray cover, and forcibly tap the tray itself randomly until the tray finally comes out. What I also noticed was if you have a disc inside the tray to begin with, the eject button and also the remote eject works fine. I think there is dust on a sensor somewhere inside that needs cleaning...
But, again, if you could share where you bought the replacement tray, I'd be eternally grateful. Thanks in advance!
Hi Mike

good advice here although a bit too late... I already wrapped it in Saran wrap with the manuals and remote attached as we're moving in a week and I'm trying to get stuff organized, all the gear that's not in active rotation is getting that treatment so everything stays together and if someone wants a piece from the closet I'm sure that I'm giving them everything.

Your issue sounds EXACTLY like what I had, except I didn't flip/tap, I just popped the top, what I found was that the top piece of the spindle clamp was just a floating piece of plastic with a little steel washer in it. The lower part, the one that moves up and down to allow the tray to open, was strongly magnetic. With a disc clamped in, the attraction wasn't quite strong enough to lock everything together, but with no disc, it would stick and the tray would never open. I tried flipping over the washer (it was slightly cup shaped) to make the magnetic attraction less and that didn't work - it stopped reading discs then as I guess it wasn't clamped strongly/stably enough. I tried cutting a paper shim to go between the floating disc and the metal cover to keep the floating disc from getting quite so close to the lower part, that didn't work. (If it had, I'd have probably cut one out of a takeout soup container lid or something. Hey the label shield on my record cleaning machine was fabricated just that way!) Finally in desperation I took the whole metal cover off and tapped a few dings in the lid to try to accomplish the same thing; I got to the point where the tray would open reliably but then the floating part would rub on the cover with a disc playing, no bueno there.

I purchased a lower end but similar looking player at the local Goodwill completely opportunistically - I was actually going to post the player for free here and at Audiokarma if anyone wanted to play with it later that same day - but ended up running to GW for a blender as SWMBO had just fried the cheap thing that she'd bought off Amazon, and the Samsung player was just sitting there and I figured what the heck, I'd paid $35 for the 2550, the Oppo DVP (both with all manuals and remotes), and a pile of books and cables off Craigslist from someone who'd clearly bought good stuff back in the day but just wanted to clean out so I figured another $20 wouldn't put me upside down even for a semi-obsolete BDP. I really wanted the Oppo for region free DVD and SACD playback (it's a thing I have; even if I don't physically own any media, I like being able to say "yeah I can play that") and honestly I didn't *need* the 2550 but the price was right and I just like to tinker with stuff, I find it relaxing and fulfilling to keep stuff working and out of the landfill, and if I can pass it on to someone who needs/wants/will use it even better.

Oddly, when I disassembled the players, I found that the 2550 used a drive with a solid metal cover and a little metal hatch that you rotated to release the floating part of the spindle clamp. The lower end one, which I've already trashed (today was trash day) so I forget the model number, had a drive that looked completely different, it was open on top and the spindle clamp support was plastic, but they physically interchanged and when I flipped them over the circuit board had the exact same markings so I gave it a go. I got really lucky, just happened to find another player with the exact same build date down to the month, of course I bought a lottery ticket the next day

Edit: what I didn't try, although maybe I should have, was taking a drill and enlarging some of the holes in the washer to make it lighter (variation on my "flip it upside down" try above.) Maybe if yours has the same metal cover drive you could try that and see if it works? The downside is if you do that and it doesn't work you've just trashed it but good. I realize that probably doesn't make any sense now but if you're handy and can get the drive out and the cover off it probably *will* make sense. I can take pics if it'd help as I saved the old NFG drive when I threw the rest of the stuff out just in case the "new" one ever needed a "new" laser.
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good advice here although a bit too late... I already wrapped it in Saran wrap with the manuals and remote attached as we're moving in a week and I'm trying to get stuff organized, all the gear that's not in active rotation is getting that treatment so everything stays together and if someone wants a piece from the closet I'm sure that I'm giving them everything.

Your issue sounds EXACTLY like what I had, except I didn't flip/tap, I just popped the top, what I found was that the top piece of the spindle clamp was just a floating piece of plastic with a little steel washer in it. The lower part, the one that moves up and down to allow the tray to open, was strongly magnetic. With a disc clamped in, the attraction wasn't quite strong enough to lock everything together, but with no disc, it would stick and the tray would never open. I tried flipping over the washer (it was slightly cup shaped) to make the magnetic attraction less and that didn't work - it stopped reading discs then as I guess it wasn't clamped strongly/stably enough. I tried cutting a paper shim to go between the floating disc and the metal cover to keep the floating disc from getting quite so close to the lower part, that didn't work. (If it had, I'd have probably cut one out of a takeout soup container lid or something. Hey the label shield on my record cleaning machine was fabricated just that way!) Finally in desperation I took the whole metal cover off and tapped a few dings in the lid to try to accomplish the same thing; I got to the point where the tray would open reliably but then the floating part would rub on the cover with a disc playing, no bueno there.

I purchased a lower end but similar looking player at the local Goodwill completely opportunistically - I was actually going to post the player for free here and at Audiokarma if anyone wanted to play with it later that same day - but ended up running to GW for a blender as SWMBO had just fried the cheap thing that she'd bought off Amazon, and the Samsung player was just sitting there and I figured what the heck, I'd paid $35 for the 2550, the Oppo DVP (both with all manuals and remotes), and a pile of books and cables off Craigslist from someone who'd clearly bought good stuff back in the day but just wanted to clean out so I figured another $20 wouldn't put me upside down even for a semi-obsolete BDP. I really wanted the Oppo for region free DVD and SACD playback (it's a thing I have; even if I don't physically own any media, I like being able to say "yeah I can play that") and honestly I didn't *need* the 2550 but the price was right and I just like to tinker with stuff, I find it relaxing and fulfilling to keep stuff working and out of the landfill, and if I can pass it on to someone who needs/wants/will use it even better.

Oddly, when I disassembled the players, I found that the 2550 used a drive with a solid metal cover and a little metal hatch that you rotated to release the floating part of the spindle clamp. The lower end one, which I've already trashed (today was trash day) so I forget the model number, had a drive that looked completely different, it was open on top and the spindle clamp support was plastic, but they physically interchanged and when I flipped them over the circuit board had the exact same markings so I gave it a go. I got really lucky, just happened to find another player with the exact same build date down to the month, of course I bought a lottery ticket the next day

Edit: what I didn't try, although maybe I should have, was taking a drill and enlarging some of the holes in the washer to make it lighter (variation on my "flip it upside down" try above.) Maybe if yours has the same metal cover drive you could try that and see if it works? The downside is if you do that and it doesn't work you've just trashed it but good. I realize that probably doesn't make any sense now but if you're handy and can get the drive out and the cover off it probably *will* make sense. I can take pics if it'd help as I saved the old NFG drive when I threw the rest of the stuff out just in case the "new" one ever needed a "new" laser.
Thanks for your reply. Given your explanation, I don't think I will plan on risking anything to butcher the tray assembly. You were definitely lucky to find the exact build and more importantly harvest a replacement drive altogether. :-)

A direct swap out and swap in of exacting components/modules are always the best method for DIY replacements.

I don't think I will be so lucky to ever find this particular model of the bluray player. For me, this amazing player still works well, except for the flaky tray and non consistent ejecting. My workaround has always been to leave a disc permanently in it, so that it will open when the unit is turned on, and I want to swap out a disc to watch.

What I still like about it, even after all these years, primarily is that DVDO scaler chip and the individual 5.1 outputs.

Cheers!
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