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Check out coolerguys.com. I installed a kit w/ 2 80mm computer case fans that pull the heat out of my tv stand and nothing runs hot (my Onkyo 605 even runs cooler now). The power adapter converts works with the 3-pin connectors on the fans so it uses a normal wall outlet. Beware, though, you do have to cut a hole in the side/back you choose to install it in.

How quiet are they? I'm looking at this one: http://coolerguys.com/840556082903.html

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How quiet are they? I'm looking at this one: http://coolerguys.com/840556082903.html

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I can't hear them unless I stick my head in the cabinet.

Here is the one I purchased: http://coolerguys.com/840556082910.html
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I can't hear them unless I stick my head in the cabinet.

Here is the one I purchased: http://coolerguys.com/840556082910.html

Thanks! I have a cabinet with decent ventilation but if I can milk a few more years out of my audio equipment it's well worth $40. And my launch PS3 still cranks up its own fan more often than I'd like, which makes me think my definition of "decent" ventilation might not be enough...

Sorry to take up space on this thread -- hopeful to own a 2550 soon... thank you all for your excellent information.
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How is the upscaling capability of this player compared to Oppo 980 or Tosh XDE? Has anybody done a side-by-side comparison? The reason I ask is because I have the 1500 which so far has been reliable and plays BD fine, but is somewhat mediocre in playing SD DVD. I can sell this to someone and get the 2550 or keep the 1500 and get a 980 or XDE.
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Forgive me if this was discussed, but I didn't find it via search. I have a 1500 with audio dropout issues with several discs that give other 1500 owners problems. Enchanted, Ratatouile, Dewey Cox, newest Rambo, and I think a couple of others that I haven't tried. Even with the newest update 1.3 from last week, problem still appears unfixed. Has anyone played these without issue. It only affects the HDMI bitstream(audiophile) output to an AVR capable of decoding the new codecs.[/u] No issues doing HDMI PCM or dig/optical or coaxial of DD or DTS.

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Forgive me if this was discussed, but I didn't find it via search. I have a 1500 with audio dropout issues with several discs that give other 1500 owners problems. Enchanted, Ratatouile, Dewey Cox, newest Rambo, and I think a couple of others that I haven't tried. Even with the newest update 1.3 from last week, problem still appears unfixed. Has anyone played these without issue. It only affects the HDMI bitstream(audiophile) output to an AVR capable of decoding the new codecs.[/u] No issues doing HDMI PCM or dig/optical or coaxial of DD or DTS.

So far, I haven't experience any audio dropouts with the P2550.
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Forgive me if this was discussed, but I didn't find it via search. I have a 1500 with audio dropout issues with several discs that give other 1500 owners problems. Enchanted, Ratatouile, Dewey Cox, newest Rambo, and I think a couple of others that I haven't tried. Even with the newest update 1.3 from last week, problem still appears unfixed. Has anyone played these without issue. It only affects the HDMI bitstream(audiophile) output to an AVR capable of decoding the new codecs.[/u] No issues doing HDMI PCM or dig/optical or coaxial of DD or DTS.

No problems with Rat, but I didn't have any with the 1500 either with that disc...haven't tried the others.
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Forgive me if this was discussed, but I didn't find it via search. I have a 1500 with audio dropout issues with several discs that give other 1500 owners problems. Enchanted, Ratatouile, Dewey Cox, newest Rambo, and I think a couple of others that I haven't tried. Even with the newest update 1.3 from last week, problem still appears unfixed. Has anyone played these without issue. It only affects the HDMI bitstream(audiophile) output to an AVR capable of decoding the new codecs.[/u] No issues doing HDMI PCM or dig/optical or coaxial of DD or DTS.

Based on what others are saying, your AVR probably needs a firmware update and not the Samsung.

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Based on what others are saying, your AVR probably needs a firmware update and not the Samsung.

No, it isn't an AVR problem. These are widely reported problem discs for the 1500 when used with multiple AVR's.
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How is the upscaling capability of this player compared to Oppo 980 or Tosh XDE? Has anybody done a side-by-side comparison? The reason I ask is because I have the 1500 which so far has been reliable and plays BD fine, but is somewhat mediocre in playing SD DVD. I can sell this to someone and get the 2550 or keep the 1500 and get a 980 or XDE.

see post #104...
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FYI: Here is the Broadcom BCM7440 Product Brief:

Can't post the URL until I have 3 posts... Sorry...

For Audio decoder formats, it lists:
  • Dolby Digital
  • Dolby Digital Plus
  • Dolby Tru-HD
  • DTS
  • DTS-HD
  • Many MPEG/MP3/AAC types

No DTS-MA, so I would say no chance of getting a firmware update to add this...

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Based on what others are saying, your AVR probably needs a firmware update and not the Samsung.

Where did you see that discussed?

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Where did you see that discussed?

Oops! I may have confused these audio dropouts with the ones from Batman Begins, V for Vendetta, etc. where the TrueHD was being downgraded to DD. If it's not related then I take back the previous post.

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I have my player connected to an optical cable. Should I put the setting on something in particular? Because I haven't and my receiver ( which is old and doesn't do high def codecs ) shows Dolby Digital (PCM) on it. Anyone?
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I think you're right about the limitations of the BCM7440 (that seems to be the consensus) but *technically* DTS-HD is the umbrella term that includes both HR and MA: http://www.dts.com/DTS_In_Consumer_P...d_So_Good.aspx

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FYI: Here is the Broadcom BCM7440 Product Brief:

Can't post the URL until I have 3 posts... Sorry...

For Audio decoder formats, it lists:
  • Dolby Digital
  • Dolby Digital Plus
  • Dolby Tru-HD
  • DTS
  • DTS-HD
  • Many MPEG/MP3/AAC types

No DTS-MA, so I would say no chance of getting a firmware update to add this...

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This unit is equipped with Persistent Storage Management (Internal Flash Memory). What exactly is Persistent Storage Management (Internal Flash Memory)? Also, what is the capacity?

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IMHO - there is no excuse for a brand new BD player in this price bracket not to fully support all aspects of the spec (including DTS MA and 2.0), regardless of how nice the SD DVD playback is. This is supposed to be about the next gen, and the HQV while nice, is primarily of benefit to the SD discs.
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I think you're right about the limitations of the BCM7440 (that seems to be the consensus) but *technically* DTS-HD is the umbrella term that includes both HR and MA: http://www.dts.com/DTS_In_Consumer_P...d_So_Good.aspx

Plus, that product brief is an old document from 2006.

As I said before, the plan was for the 7440 to do it all, and on paper it did. However, when it finally came down to putting the DTS code on the chip, DTS had made some changes and the 7440 just wouldn't work with DTS HD MA or HR.

So DTS told Broadcom to redesign their chip and Broadcom told DTS to redesign their code. Neither one did anything. Broadcom is working on a new chip and I don't think any effort is going in to fixing the 7440. Now, Samsung did state they would provide a DTS-HD HR update for the 1500 at some time in the future (which the rumor mill changed to MA, but that was false info). So Samsung must have a good reason to think that is a possible fix they can provide.
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IMHO - there is no excuse for a brand new BD player in this price bracket not to fully support all aspects of the spec (including DTS MA and 2.0), regardless of how nice the SD DVD playback is. This is supposed to be about the next gen, and the HQV while nice, is primarily of benefit to the SD discs.

The 2500 and the 2550 are just improved versions of the 1500. They have all the same flaws and shortcomings of the 1500. All Samsung did was slap a HQV chip into the 1500 design, and add additional cooling to handle the added heat load. They even have the same cheap, noisy drive. It was just a way for Samsung to add a $20 part to an existing design and mark the retail up $100.
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The 2500 and the 2550 are just improved versions of the 1500. They have all the same flaws and shortcomings of the 1500. All Samsung did was slap a HQV chip into the 1500 design, and add additional cooling to handle the added heat load. They even have the same cheap, noisy drive. It was just a way for Samsung to add a $20 part to an existing design and mark the retail up $100.

The HQV chip is only a $20 part? Wow. Can I just buy one and duct tape it to my PS3?
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Can any of you owners confirm if following discs plays fine on your 2550 when accessing menu features?

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Most (if not all) Paramount titles released on July 29, 2008, seem to be afflicted with hanging when accessing menu items: Beowulf: The Director's Cut, Clear and Present Danger, The Hunt for Red October (confirmed), Patriot Games, Shine a Light (confirmed), The Sum of All Fears (confirmed) and Top Gun (confirmed) are all potentially broken.

It is currently broken on BD-UP5000. Just curious if Samsung fixed them in 2550.
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The HQV chip is only a $20 part? Wow. Can I just buy one and duct tape it to my PS3?

Well, you have to buy a few thousand to get that price, so you will need a lot of duct tape.
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well, you have to buy a few thousand to get that price, so you will need a lot of duct tape.

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Can the 2550 do media streaming? In other words, can it play videos on a computer that is on the network?
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Man you guys are right, having the BD-P2550 on top fo the DVR was a huge mistake. I watched a DVD on it last night and afterward, I lifted it up off the rack and felt underneath and it was scortching hot. So I took it back to Best Buy ( 30 day return ) and got a brand new one. Gonna wait a week until I get the shelf installed on the wall by the tv to even take the new one out of the box.
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If people want to stack componets on top of each other, they should stick this in-between each component.

The Antec Low Profile AV Component Cooler allows you to stack components.

This device was designed to aid in cooling.
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so, I am really considering this player because of the Reon chip. I can get the BD-UP5000 online for less. Which one do you guys here recommend, the newer 2550 or the 5000?
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so, I am really considering this player because of the Reon chip. I can get the BD-UP5000 online for less. Which one do you guys here recommend, the newer 2550 or the 5000?

Both are very similar with the exception of HD DVD capability:

* If you have HD DVDs, the choice is obvious.
* Otherwise, stick with newer one because it may receive much more updates and support than the discountinued 5000. Not to mention Profile 2.0/BD-Live is promised for 2550 but not for 5000 if you care.
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Both are very similar with the exception of HD DVD capability:

* If you have HD DVDs, the choice is obvious.
* Otherwise, stick with newer one because it may receive much more updates and support than the discountinued 5000. Not to mention Profile 2.0/BD-Live is promised for 2550 but not for 5000 if you care.

i didn't even consider those two points about the updates on older equipment and the profile 2.0. I have no HD DVD's. It was recommended to me to look for this Reon Chip. This is the only player besides the Denon that I was looking at that have it, well the Denon has the Realta. It is very expensive though. I just bought the Denon 3808 CI AV reciever and just can't justify spending more on a blu ray than my reciever. I do need a new player though badly. I have been looking and really trying to comprehend, but it gets so overwhelming when it comes to blu ray.

It seems from what I've heard that nothing can play SD DVD's like the Realta/Reon Chip. I have alot of those that I use everyday for my workouts. I am almost set on the 2550, but just want to make sure that there is nothing out there that I'm overlooking that might be better. any recommendations would be great. thanks.
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