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post #151 of 159 Old 02-17-2009, 11:01 AM
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Here's my 2 cents on these 2 sub $500 excellent BD players.

I have been checking out the forums on which of these 2 players are better than the other. I, too have been confused on which one to buy with the most Bang-for-the-buck features. So I bought both Sammy S2550 and Panny BD 55k to both try them out.

Comparison:

Video:
Definitely goes to Sammy with HQV Reon doing all the upconversion, although Panny was not bad either with their own proprietery technology. I used DVE HD Essential Blu-Ray to do Video tests.

Audio: With the same setup, Panny take this one!!! I have been using 'Band of Brothers' , BLURAY (Carentan episode ) and U-571 (Depth Charge scenes) as my sound test bench with DTS-HD MA bitstreaming to my arOnkyo THX 7.1 receiver. Samsung, was not too bad, very nice sounds separation, but you could definitely hear clearer/crispier sounds, better and deeper bass/better explosions on the Panny.

Quality:
I just started buying Samsung electronics (LCD), but always either had Panny or Sony equipment in the past (none have malfunctioned yet). Based on my experience, I would still consider the Panny to be of better quality. Panny and Sony are kinda like Honda and Toyota...worry free for at least 10 yrs...hehe...everything else is so-so


Other Features to consider:
Both has 7.1 analog outs (good for old 7.1 receivers w/o HDMI inputs)
Netflix/Pandora: Goes to Sammy, instant gratification of movies/music via ethernet....Very Nice feature...although...pq quality is still far from Blu-ray or even DVD quality for that matter. I would consider the pq slightly blurry, almost VHS like and most movies are not even in 2:35:1 or even 16:9 aspect ratio, more llike 4:3 hehe. Pandora is excellent!!! Kinda lika having a jukebox for audio...again not the highest quality audio though....but very convenient...and decent enough for a house party!

Now for the million dollar question.......Which one should I return...?!?!?!? I'm more inclined to returning the Sammy. The reason is because I'm so impressed with the Panny's Audio. I swear once you hear it, you'll never hear anything else! Although the Sammy has HQV Reon, I probably would not really need it coz My Mitsubishi PJ HC6500 also has the same video processor built in. Now for Netflix/Pandora ....there's always the ROKU player, only $99 and with WiFi to boot!!! Excellent!
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At its current price the Pioneer BDP-51FD is the clear winner among this group.

I have this player on my final list that also includes the Sammy, Panny and Sony. I have almost written off the Pioneer because the is getting old probably near extinction. Can you give me some reasons why it is the better buy?

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Here's my 2 cents on these 2 sub $500 excellent BD players.

I have been checking out the forums on which of these 2 players are better than the other. I, too have been confused on which one to buy with the most Bang-for-the-buck features. So I bought both Sammy S2550 and Panny BD 55k to both try them out.

Comparison:

Video:
Definitely goes to Sammy with HQV Reon doing all the upconversion, although Panny was not bad either with their own proprietery technology. I used DVE HD Essential Blu-Ray to do Video tests.

Audio: With the same setup, Panny take this one!!! I have been using 'Band of Brothers' , BLURAY (Carentan episode ) and U-571 (Depth Charge scenes) as my sound test bench with DTS-HD MA bitstreaming to my arOnkyo THX 7.1 receiver. Samsung, was not too bad, very nice sounds separation, but you could definitely hear clearer/crispier sounds, better and deeper bass/better explosions on the Panny.

Quality:
I just started buying Samsung electronics (LCD), but always either had Panny or Sony equipment in the past (none have malfunctioned yet). Based on my experience, I would still consider the Panny to be of better quality. Panny and Sony are kinda like Honda and Toyota...worry free for at least 10 yrs...hehe...everything else is so-so


Other Features to consider:
Both has 7.1 analog outs (good for old 7.1 receivers w/o HDMI inputs)
Netflix/Pandora: Goes to Sammy, instant gratification of movies/music via ethernet....Very Nice feature...although...pq quality is still far from Blu-ray or even DVD quality for that matter. I would consider the pq slightly blurry, almost VHS like and most movies are not even in 2:35:1 or even 16:9 aspect ratio, more llike 4:3 hehe. Pandora is excellent!!! Kinda lika having a jukebox for audio...again not the highest quality audio though....but very convenient...and decent enough for a house party!

Now for the million dollar question.......Which one should I return...?!?!?!? I'm more inclined to returning the Sammy. The reason is because I'm so impressed with the Panny's Audio. I swear once you hear it, you'll never hear anything else! Although the Sammy has HQV Reon, I probably would not really need it coz My Mitsubishi PJ HC6500 also has the same video processor built in. Now for Netflix/Pandora ....there's always the ROKU player, only $99 and with WiFi to boot!!! Excellent!

Just for a bit of clarification.

If both players are bitstreaming to your AVR are you saying the Panny bitstreaming has better quality A/Q?

I don't see how this is possible.
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Just for a bit of clarification.

If both players are bitstreaming to your AVR are you saying the Panny bitstreaming has better quality A/Q?

I don't see how this is possible.


Yup. I do hear some difference in AQ. I'm not an audio expert, nor did I use any specific audio tester/equipment to determine that difference. I just used my trusty 'Band of Brother's Bluray movie and cranked up the Onkyo receiver real loud. I had same exact setup, just switched the BD players and I swear I did hear better audio in the Panny 55k.
I know, many will say it's just all digital and bitstreaming is plain bitsreaming, but it still depends on the components inside each and every BluRay player and how they receive and sent out the sound files..... It's like saying all HDMI cables are suppose to perform equally because it's just all plain digital 1 & O's. It still boils down on the materials used and the overall build of the product. So to me, I think the Panny has better quality audio components, or maybe the Samsung that I specifically tested was not of particular good quality, but I'm not gonna buy another one just to find out for sure...hehe. Anyways, both are excellent BD players. If I only had the extra $$$ I would have probably gone higher end anyways, maybe to the Pioneers and Denons becuase of their reputed excellent AQ, but unfortunately I could only afford these two. To sum it up, I would have easily settled for the Sammy 2550, had I never listened to the Panny DMP 55k...

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There is a UK Home theater magazine currently out there now that rated these BD players...(from Entry level to Mid to High End) Samsung BD 1500, Panny BD 35/55K, Pioneers and the Sony's...The Panny scored really high on AQ. Go to your nearest Barnes & Noble store now, check it out. I will find out the exact name of the magazine and post it here if u want, just read it yesterday.
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vampira22 - nextoo is right, ya know. I don't think it's possible for a bitstreamed soundtrack to sound different from player to player. How do "materials used and the overall build of the product" have anything to do with transmitting an encoded audio file over a digital connection. As for a magazine rating audio quality, it could really only be a comparison of their analog outputs, not bitstreaming.
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Hi I am in the market for a blu-ray player that can decode all HD codec's Dolby True HD and DTS- HDMA, over 5.1-7.1 analog output. I have read many posts on here and see alot of contradictions. Will the Sony 550 decode AND output DTS-MA over analog? Some here same yes but I have read alot of other posts which say it does not. Can anyone confirm this either way, I called Sony tech on this and after 1 hour still be not get a concrete answer.
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Will the Sony 550 decode AND output DTS-MA over analog? Some here same yes but I have read alot of other posts which say it does not. Can anyone confirm this either way, I called Sony tech on this and after 1 hour still be not get a concrete answer.

Yes, the Sony S550 decodes all for 7.1 analog output.
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I have the Samsung 2500. Has anyone activated Netflix on this machine? What is the speed like? I am currently using my XBOX 360 and would like use my Blu-Ray player instead so I can move my 360 to another room. Comments thoughts?
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I have the Samsung 2500. Has anyone activated Netflix on this machine? What is the speed like? I am currently using my XBOX 360 and would like use my Blu-Ray player instead so I can move my 360 to another room. Comments thoughts?

Have you checked out the Samsung 2500 thread?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1058811

There's plenty of us that have successfully used Netflix on the 2500. I don't know what the speed is, but it's whatever's necessary to get HD video.
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