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Later Canadian versions have True HD. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1001056

Thanks for the link. Weird that Disney would put out two different versions of the same Blu-ray Disc in Canada.

But then it comes back to selecting the right audio track in the disc menu since apparently it is not the default audio track.

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Yes, 3 = front speakers, 2 = surround speakers, .1 = subwoofer.

You can leave the optical connection in place, or not. For people with 7.1 systems, the optical path has a big advantage when watching regular DVDs. If you have a 7.1 system and only use the analog outputs, then you won't be able to apply PLIIx in the receiver to create 7.1 when the source is only 5.1. In other words, your rear speakers will usually be silent when watching regular DVDs. But, if you leave the optical connection in place and set your player's digital outputs to bitstream, then you can use PLIIx to fill those rear speakers. Just switch to the optical input on your receiver when watching DVDs.
The optical path also has the advantage of using the receiver's bass management and EQ, although I have not observed any real world improvement in my room when watching DVDs and switching between the BD55 analog output and the digital path through my Denon 3805.

Does your above comment apply to BluRay as well since most of the Blu Ray material is still in 5.1?
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Sorry for asking this but I don't want to read all 109 pages on the thread.

I have the Onkyo 805 receiver and thinking of getting the 35 player.

Does anyone know if I can bypass the player's interneal decoder and bitstream all surround modes to my receiver?

Please let me know.

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Sorry for asking this but I don't want to read all 109 pages on the thread.

I have the Onkyo 805 receiver and thinking of getting the 35 player.

Does anyone know if I can bypass the player's interneal decoder and bitstream all surround modes to my receiver?

Please let me know.

Thanks.

Yes it will let you bit stream. The 55 has the built in decoder for TrueHD & DTS-HD/MA
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With so many repetitive questions everyday I believe is time to lock this thread and make another one with a big FAQ on first post. Of curse the person creating the new thread has to be committed on keeping the FAQ updated.

What you guys think?
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Yes it will let you bit stream. The 55 has the built in decoder for TrueHD & DTS-HD/MA


Thanks Rob,

I don't think I will need the 55 since my Onkyo 805 can decode TrueHD & DTS-HD.
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Yes it will let you bit stream. The 55 has the built in decoder for TrueHD & DTS-HD/MA

So does the 35. The 55 adds analog which the 35 does not and DivX support. Both will bitstream and internally decode.

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With so many repetitive questions everyday I believe is time to lock this thread and make another one with a big FAQ on first post. Of curse the person creating the new thread has to be committed on keeping the FAQ updated.

What you guys think?

I agree. This is getting ridiculous. I'd be willing as I have both. Can't do it until Thursday or Friday, though.

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For the record all new generation players including the cheap ones like Insignia, Magnavox, Memorex, etc. are able to bitstream TrueHD & DTS-MA.
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With so many repetitive questions everyday I believe is time to lock this thread and make another one with a big FAQ on first post. Of curse the person creating the new thread has to be committed on keeping the FAQ updated.

What you guys think?

Good idea!
How many more times are we gonna be asked what the difference is between the 35 & 55, etc.???

Seems like most folks just aren't willing to use the Search tool anymore.....
I made that mistake once already myself!
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Thank You! It's nice to see someone was listening. It does get frustrating sometimes answering the same questions over and over when the "Search This Thread" tool will find most of the answers people need.
What I particularly dislike is "I'm too busy to search the thread, can someone answer this question?" Like our time is less valuable than theirs?
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Sorry for asking this but I don't want to read all 109 pages on the thread.
I have the Onkyo 805 receiver and thinking of getting the 35 player.
Does anyone know if [......]

Please let me know.
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Guys, thanks for all the wonderful info on the BD55. One question, if I use the analogue outs in a 5.1 configuration, will the 55 do bass management for all the sound formats, including Dolby True HD and DTS Master Audio? I am asking because my 10A doesn't do BM for those formats, only for DD, DTS and PCM lossless.
Thanks so much for the time!

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Heb,

No bass management with the analog outputs unless your AVR allows you to control the speaker management w/ external hookups. You'll need to turn your AVR bass setting up about 10 decibles or turn up the sub.
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I disagree this thread should be closed isn't this what a forum is for? Putting up a FAQ on the first page is not a bad idea why not just refer people who ask the questions covered to it instead of locking the thread. If you don’t want to answer it just move on, splinting this thread just is a bigger waste of time reading each thread instead of one master thread which this was created to do. This thread has had of a lot of interest meaning it’s popular, because it's got too many pages isn’t a reason to close it imho.
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TrueHD will only be 5.1. DTS Master will output at up to 7.1. p. 8 of the owner's manual.

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Not true. Manual must be wrong. This Disc is TrueHD 7.1

http://www.blu-raystats.com/Stats/Details.php?u=781
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Bought my BD35 yesterday and hooked it up via HDMI to my Marantz SR-6001 and set the BD35 to PCM out. Annoyingly, the volume levels are way lower than coming from my Denon DVD-1940 (about 10dB). Moreover, turning up the level reveals a high whining pitch in all channels. This goes for both DVD and BR. Switching to bitstream removes the whining (only tested with DVD of course), but the volume levels are still low. Anyone experienced the same? Any solutions?

Thanks in advance!
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I disagree this thread should be closed isn't this what a forum is for? Putting up a FAQ on the first page is not a bad idea why not just refer people who ask the questions covered to it instead of locking the thread. If you don't want to answer it just move on, splinting this thread just is a bigger waste of time reading each thread instead of one master thread which this was created to do. This thread has had of a lot of interest meaning it's popular, because it's got too many pages isn't a reason to close it imho.

I agree with Misufan. I only want to go to ONE thread to get all of my BD35/55 information (even if it's 100s of pages).

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Guys, thanks for all the wonderful info on the BD55. One question, if I use the analogue outs in a 5.1 configuration, will the 55 do bass management for all the sound formats, including Dolby True HD and DTS Master Audio? I am asking because my 10A doesn't do BM for those formats, only for DD, DTS and PCM lossless.
Thanks so much for the time!

Yes, the BD55 does bass management (for all formats) over analog multi-channel outputs, *BUT* it's fairly limited. You can specify small, large or none for all of the sets of speakers in your system. If you set a speaker pair as large then it gets full range sound, if you set it to small then it crosses over at 100Hz (nothing below 100 Hz is sent to that channel and is instead routed to the subwoofer channel), if none, then that channel gets nothing.

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Does your above comment apply to BluRay as well since most of the Blu Ray material is still in 5.1?

Yes, but the optical output would not be lossless, of course. You'd get the lossy DD 5.1 companion track or the DTS core. So, you would have to decide whether the rear speakers are more important to you than lossless.
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Not true. Manual must be wrong. This Disc is TrueHD 7.1

http://www.blu-raystats.com/Stats/Details.php?u=781

You're taking his comments out of context. He never said "Nightmare" was 5.1, he said 7.1-ch PCM and Dolby TrueHD movies will be converted to 5.1 channels *IF* you leave Secondary Audio ON. It does this because it needs channels internally to mix the secondary audio and disc menu sound effects.

If you want your Dolby TrueHD 7.1 movie to stay 7.1 channels (either via bitstream or PCM) then you will have to set Secondary Audio to OFF.

I don't know if "Nightmare" has any menu sound effects, but I have heard it reported before that it triggers the Secondary Audio detection in the BD55 as if Secondary Audio were present or menu clicks were present.

Since it's only 1 of the 2 TrueHD 7.1 titles available (other than some demo material), I would say it's pretty safe to say that not too much testing has been done yet with Dolby TrueHD 7.1 content on these players. MY testing was limited to Dolby demo discs since I don't own "Nightmare Before XMas" or "Final Countdown."

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Thanks Rob,

I don't think I will need the 55 since my Onkyo 805 can decode TrueHD & DTS-HD.

I have the same receiver and I just ordered the 35. I also found out from the manual that the DTS-HD is only available from HDMI connection out of the 35. The optical output will output all other modes like HDMI except DTS-HD. This changes my connectivity plan but it's a minor issue.

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Well here's the straw to break the camel's back -- another doofus who just unboxed his new BD35 and has one remaining question after running through the manual and setup menus a few times. I even lowered myself to searching this thread, but couldn't narrow the query down far enough to find a definitive answer.

(Deep breath) So, is there a way to auto-select 480p output for DVDs and 1080p output for Blu-rays over HDMI? I know I can hook up via component/optical to get 480i/p out to my Edge, but honestly I'd rather not add even more cables to the rat's nest.

Feel free to kick me in the nuts now, Chris.
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I have the same receiver and I just ordered the 35. I also found out from the manual that the DTS-HD is only available from HDMI connection out of the 35. The optical output will output all other modes like HDMI except DTS-HD. This changes my connectivity plan but it's a minor issue.

For future reference, optical and coax digital connections do not handle any of the new high bit rate codecs (DD+, TrueHD, DTS-HD HRA, and dts-MA). Optical and coax are limited to the legacy versions of DD 5.1 and DTS.

Also, optical and coax can only do stereo PCM, not multichannel.

Those are the limits of the S/PDIF protocol and apply to all players.

You need HDMI for digital transmission of the high bit rate formats and multichannel PCM. Or, you can let the player do the decoding and the digital-analog conversion and send multichannel analog to the receiver. Of course, the latter is not an option with the BD35, which only has two channel analog outputs.
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Anyone else have a freezing 35? On movie startup sometimes it freezes. Have to remove the plug and start over...am I alone?
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Wish Panasonic would post the user manual. I'm dying to read it. For that matter, wish they would list these 2 new models on their US website.

http://www.panasonic.ca/english/cust...ns/Results.asp

Or

http://www.panasonic.ca/PDP/Operatin...-55-oi-eng.pdf

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Anyone else have a freezing 35? On movie startup sometimes it freezes. Have to remove the plug and start over...am I alone?

2 BD disks and 6 DVD's later and have not experienced this.

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Not true. Manual must be wrong. This Disc is TrueHD 7.1

http://www.blu-raystats.com/Stats/Details.php?u=781

You missed something. We were talking about with secondary audio on. When secondary audio is on, Dolby TrueHD is downsampled to 5.1. P. 8 of the owner's manual.

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Well here's the straw to break the camel's back -- another doofus who just unboxed his new BD35 and has one remaining question after running through the manual and setup menus a few times. I even lowered myself to searching this thread, but couldn't narrow the query down far enough to find a definitive answer.

(Deep breath) So, is there a way to auto-select 480p output for DVDs and 1080p output for Blu-rays over HDMI? I know I can hook up via component/optical to get 480i/p out to my Edge, but honestly I'd rather not add even more cables to the rat's nest.

Feel free to kick me in the nuts now, Chris.

No nuts-kicking required. NEW questions are always welcome!

But unfortunately, the answer to your question is no. If/when I get some face-to-face time with the engineers (maybe at CES?) I will try to impress upon them the benefits of a source direct mode which would output everything at its native resolution for external processing. I think only Pioneer does that right now, but I don't think they even have a BD-Live player yet (?).

For your purposes, your options are either a.) to use component/480i for DVDs, b.) manually change resolution in set-up menu or c.) keep that extra DVD player around for DVD playback and processing through your EDGE.

BTW, do you like your EDGE? DVDO wants to send me one for review. Is it worth it?

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Anyone else have a freezing 35? On movie startup sometimes it freezes. Have to remove the plug and start over...am I alone?

Never seen anything like that. Are you 'net-connected with an SD card in there or are you 'net-challenged with no SD card or are you somewhere in the middle?

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For your purposes, your options are either a.) to use component/480i for DVDs, b.) manually change resolution in set-up menu or c.) keep that extra DVD player around for DVD playback and processing through your EDGE.

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