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post #451 of 14982 Old 10-18-2008, 06:35 PM
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Has anyone seen the 35 at CC. I do have a $40.00 coupon but it says you can only use it in the store, not on line. Checking their web site they don't show the 35 in stock at any of the stores in my area (Orlando).
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I have been told the BD 35 can display an HD Photo JPEG image from a dvd disc

The BD 55 specs indicate it has JPEG capability from a SD memory chip. Does anyone know if the BD 55 can display a HD JPEG image from disc also? Or is it just from SD chip? The specs for the BD 55 are not clear on this point.

I think the explanation is on page 17 or 18 in the manual. It can play back JPEGs from a disk.
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Hey guys. I've been a long time lurker of this site and have found all the info here invaluable while setting up my system. Last week I received my my onkyo 606 receiver and my polk monitor 50's. My cs2, monitor 30's and ed a3-300 are in the mail. I picked up a panny bd35 last night and that's where my problem begins.

When I play a blue ray, the second "true-hd" appears on the recievers display, I get a buzz through my speakers. I don't get this buzz any other time like watching tv or anything, just when it kicks in to true-hd on the blue ray disk. Ive tried two different blue rays with the same outcome. You guys have any ideas? I have the BD35 set to bitsteam and secondary audio off. I have a digital cable box and the BD35 hooked up to the 606 via hdmi and hdmi from the 606 out to my samsung 46A550. It sounds like a setting issue to me since it only occurs when the true-hd kicks in on a blue ray but I could be wrong. Thanks for any help you may be able to give me.
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Hey guys. I've been a long time lurker of this site and have found all the info here invaluable while setting up my system. Last week I received my my onkyo 606 receiver and my polk monitor 50's. My cs2, monitor 30's and ed a3-300 are in the mail. I picked up a panny bd35 last night and that's where my problem begins.

When I play a blue ray, the second "true-hd" appears on the recievers display, I get a buzz through my speakers. I don't get this buzz any other time like watching tv or anything, just when it kicks in to true-hd on the blue ray disk. Ive tried two different blue rays with the same outcome. You guys have any ideas? I have the BD35 set to bitsteam and secondary audio off. I have a digital cable box and the BD35 hooked up to the 606 via hdmi and hdmi from the 606 out to my samsung 46A550. It sounds like a setting issue to me since it only occurs when the true-hd kicks in on a blue ray but I could be wrong. Thanks for any help you may be able to give me.

What happens if you play a DVD? Same thing? It could be a ground loop.

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'Got the last BD55 at CC with the 10% coupon ($40 off). I tried to use the $40 off coupon I printed out but it wouldn't scan on the register. They just then took out one of their 10% coupon and use it instead - $378 OTD.

Setup was a breeze and the remote has big buttons which I liked. Tested the player with Kingdom of Heaven, Transformers and Casino Royale. So far no problems. Overall, I'm very satisfied with the player.

I'm using HDMI to connect it to an Onkyo 604. 'Will have to try the 7.1 channel analog connection as well as the DVD upscaling tomorrow.

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Has anyone seen the 35 at CC. I do have a $40.00 coupon but it says you can only use it in the store, not on line. Checking their web site they don't show the 35 in stock at any of the stores in my area (Orlando).

Picked up the 35 today with 8% AAA discount today at CC in Paramus NJ - they had 2 in stock though not on display - had to ask for them to check stock - have not set it up yet - the CC website said that 2 stores in my area had them and it was correct.
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For the few interested in 2 channel analog output of the 55, tonight I finally got to sit down and watch an entire blu-ray with the audio at a healthy level. As I had mentioned before, the only blu-ray currently here from Netflix is Baby Mama. I had previously just watched a few scenes and characterized the picture quality as mediocre. That was probably a bit harsh. Watching the entire film, the picture quality in some scenes was stunning. But there's been plenty of praise about the blu-ray picture quality on these players already. There were no issues with video or audio playback. I had been concerned about the audio quality, but not anymore. The sound was well balanced and at volume there was no harshness or biting in the midrange. There was some music with serious bass on this soundtrack and the 55 was up to the task presenting tremendous bass extension and weight (not sure why I didn't get this on the CD playback I had previously discussed).

Next I popped in the SD DVD of Rushmore just to hear some of the audio on DVDs (I've previously suggested that I'm pleased with the picture quality several SD DVDs upconverted on the 55). Again, on music with significant bass, the 55 output very satisfying extension and weight on the bottom. The overall sound was again well balanced.

The audio output of the 55 in 2 channel analog is especially significant for those with high end audio systems due to the lack of any tone controls in high end 2 channel audio. The above observations were with the 55 set for 2 channel audio without any of the enhancements such as remaster choices, dialog enhancement, etc. One other note for those with high end 2 channel audio. The power cord is not replaceable with an aftermarket high end power cord as it does not have the usual female termination at the player.

The unit is dead silent and after about 4 hours of playing tonight was barely warm.

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Has anyone seen the 35 at CC. I do have a $40.00 coupon but it says you can only use it in the store, not on line. Checking their web site they don't show the 35 in stock at any of the stores in my area (Orlando).

I picked up a 35 at CC the other day and used the $40 coupon. Good luck!
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What happens if you play a DVD? Same thing? It could be a ground loop.

ok...I just tried it with a standard dvd and got the same outcome. as soon as the dvd starts i get the same exact buzz. is this a ground loop issue and if so how is it corrected? thanks!
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ok...I just tried it with a standard dvd and got the same outcome. as soon as the dvd starts i get the same exact buzz. is this a ground loop issue and if so how is it corrected? thanks!

Can you set the BD-35 to output multi-channel PCM and see how your processor/receiver handles that???

Ground loop would normally be electrical in nature and not codec dependent. I'd suspect something in the true-hd decoding. If the buzz occurs on PCM as well then it's a broader question.... Do you have an optical cable attached?? See if there's a buzz with a legacy coded. Or try connecting two channel analog to see if the buzz occurs - determining the full set of conditions where the buzz occurs or doesn't occur will help diagnose the issue.

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It definitely does not. The closest it comes is that if you set it to 24P and it detects that the source Blu-ray Disc is *NOT* 24P content, then it will output 1080p/60 instead. But it won't automatically output DVDs at 480i or 1080i Blu-rays at 1080i or anything like that.

I think the Pioneer is the only one that does that currently and I'm absolutely sure that EWL5 will jump in and correct me if I'm wrong.


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Thank you boylan13 and EWL5 for your input. I guess having a good video processor in your preamp/pro is really worthless unless you have the Pioneer or wait for an upcoming Blu-ray player like the Oppo which may have it. Thanks again.

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One other note for those with high end 2 channel audio. The power cord is not replaceable with an aftermarket high end power cord as it does not have the usual female termination at the player.

The unit is dead silent and after about 4 hours of playing tonight was barely warm.

You can buy an Ice Cube adaptor from Music Direct and then use a high quality power cord of your choice if you chose to do so. The Power cord on the BD55 is detachable and with the Ice Cube adaptor try a better power cord jayridescarbon.
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Thanks for your opinions. Did you make sure that the PQ settings of the BD30 and BD55 were set exactly the same?

They were the same. Having a 60" HDTV does bring out the difference in PQ a little more than a smaller set. The PQ difference isn't huge but it is there. My wife commented on it and we noticed a bit more detail, slightly brighter and more vivid. I noticed this on the Blu-ray of Spidey 2 quite easily. Love the lossless sound.
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Is there a way to check the memory on the player? I want to check how much memory my SD card has.
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I finally got my bd 55. I got the only one in stock at my local CC. The setup was fairly easy. I set it up for 5.1 audio through analog. And with hdmi for video to my samsung 120hz lcd.
Now as for performance, I can only compare it to my ps3. And I can only give you my two cents for what its worth.

The Blu-ray video is amazing. Compared to my ps3 it seems like the black levels are better. It also seems that the colors are spot on and more natural. And the bd55 is super quiet especially compared to my ps3 which is like a hairdryer. However upconversion of stardard dvd'd seems slightly better on the ps3.

And the sound is just as good as the ps3 for regular dolby/dts.
But the true hd through analog is a little if not much better. In the street scenes of Blade Runner the true hd really shined, as I heard sounds and even bits of conversations I never heard before.

There are a few cons so far though. Although, they are in no way dealbreakers, but I should at least mention them.
The bd55 is much slower to load and play compared to the ps3.
Also the remote and on screen controls are slow/sluggish. And you can't change settings in play mode like the ps3.

Again, this is only my (two cent) opinion.
I love this player. I am extremly happy.
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Soon to be owner of a BD55 with an audio question. I'll be using the analog outs for my Denon 5803. My question is this. I keep hearing about setting the audio levels using the player. I've never done this with my Panasonic S97, I've always used the speaker management in the Denon. Is there any reason I couldn't do this with the BD55?

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Is there a way to check the memory on the player? I want to check how much memory my SD card has.

Yes there is.. Page 21 in the manual..

Press FUNCTIONS on remote, select 'other functions', then go to 'card management' . You will then see the no. of files in the SD card as well as the remaining "free space" on the card.

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Soon to be owner of a BD55 with an audio question. I'll be using the analog outs for my Denon 5803. My question is this. I keep hearing about setting the audio levels using the player. I've never done this with my Panasonic S97, I've always used the speaker management in the Denon. Is there any reason I couldn't do this with the BD55?

If your 5803 has has speaker management then you can continue this practice. I have an Anthem D2 which also has full speaker management for the analog inputs but many popular receivers don't have these capabilities which is why people use speaker management in the player. The receivers or pre/pros's with speaker management tend to be on the much higher end such as your 5803.

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Soon to be owner of a BD55 with an audio question. I'll be using the analog outs for my Denon 5803. My question is this. I keep hearing about setting the audio levels using the player. I've never done this with my Panasonic S97, I've always used the speaker management in the Denon. Is there any reason I couldn't do this with the BD55?

I have my 55 connected to the 5803 using the EXT-2 inputs and it sounds amazing. I'm using the bass mgt of the 5803. Just use DSP mode and SW at +15 with SBL/SBR selected and hold on. I hope this helps.
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If you have been sitting on the fence concerning purchase of the 55/35 it is my recomendation that you take the plunge. Mine was shipped by CC and recd on Thursday, a day early and since then I have watched 3 bluray movies, Indiana Jones, Shine a Light and Iron Man. I also did a comparison between SD and Blu Ray with Casino Royale.

In my opinion you can see an improvement with blu ray but that difference is suttle. If image difference was the ony reason to consider purchase I don't know that I would have been that happy with the purchase. Where I can see or should I say hear a marked improvement is in the sound. I have a dedicated theater with sound absorbers and a diffuser installed. I purchased the 55 and run 7.1 analog out to a Marantz 7400. Speakers are all Axiom with the exception of an SVS sub-woofer. My projector, a NEC HT 1000 is getting a little age on it now so that might explain my lack of being as impressed with the image difference.
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For the few interested in 2 channel analog output of the 55, tonight I finally got to sit down and watch an entire blu-ray with the audio at a healthy level. As I had mentioned before, the only blu-ray currently here from Netflix is Baby Mama. I had previously just watched a few scenes and characterized the picture quality as mediocre. That was probably a bit harsh. Watching the entire film, the picture quality in some scenes was stunning. But there's been plenty of praise about the blu-ray picture quality on these players already. There were no issues with video or audio playback. I had been concerned about the audio quality, but not anymore. The sound was well balanced and at volume there was no harshness or biting in the midrange. There was some music with serious bass on this soundtrack and the 55 was up to the task presenting tremendous bass extension and weight (not sure why I didn't get this on the CD playback I had previously discussed).

Next I popped in the SD DVD of Rushmore just to hear some of the audio on DVDs (I've previously suggested that I'm pleased with the picture quality several SD DVDs upconverted on the 55). Again, on music with significant bass, the 55 output very satisfying extension and weight on the bottom. The overall sound was again well balanced.

The audio output of the 55 in 2 channel analog is especially significant for those with high end audio systems due to the lack of any tone controls in high end 2 channel audio. The above observations were with the 55 set for 2 channel audio without any of the enhancements such as remaster choices, dialog enhancement, etc. One other note for those with high end 2 channel audio. The power cord is not replaceable with an aftermarket high end power cord as it does not have the usual female termination at the player.

The unit is dead silent and after about 4 hours of playing tonight was barely warm.

Setup:

BD 55 with Bright Star Audio Little Rock (antivibration platform) on top
Marigo Audio Lab Crossbow DVD mat
Kimber Silver Streak interconnect 1.5 meter
Audible Illusions Modulus 3a preamp (tubed with no tone controls) sitting on polycrystal cones with Synergistic Research Master Coupler power cord
Kimber KCAG interconnect 1 meter
Pass Aleph 5 amplifier (Class A, 60 watts/channel) sitting on polycrystal cones with Synergistic Research Master Coupler power cord
Tara Labs biwired speaker wire
ProAc 2.5 speakers
Panasonic 46PZ800U with Synergistic Research Master Coupler power cord
Tice Audio Elite power conditioner

Thanks again for the observations Jay. The 55 apears to be top-notch in both visual and audio performance. Was there good movement across the sound stage? How about the highend and midrange? Are they as clear and well defined as your bass observations?
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In my opinion you can see an improvement with blu ray but that difference is suttle. If image difference was the ony reason to consider purchase I don't know that I would have been that happy with the purchase. Where I can see or should I say hear a marked improvement is in the sound. I have a dedicated theater with sound absorbers and a diffuser installed. I purchased the 55 and run 7.1 analog out to a Marantz 7400. Speakers are all Axiom with the exception of an SVS sub-woofer. My projector, a NEC HT 1000 is getting a little age on it now so that might explain my lack of being as impressed with the image difference.

You should notice that the improvement in picture quality is much more obvious than the improvement in sound. I think your projector's native resolution is 1024x768, which would explain part of the problem (not really HD, plus it has to rescale the BD image to its native resolution). It also depends how close you sit relative to the screen size.

The picture difference is dramatic even with a good 720p projector if you're sitting close enough.
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OK, I got my 55 last week and have watched a few movies and there is no question it has great VQ and AQ. This is my first Blu-ray. One of the reasons I wanted the Panasonic is the ability to read the SD card to show JPEGs on the projector. When I do this the horizontal files display fine. A picture shot in the portrait mode or vertical displays compressed vertically and stretched horizontally. It is like it is squashed a bit. Is this something I have to live with or does the use of a CD or DVD with JPEGs display differently?
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Gentlemen,

I have a 5 to 6 year old Krell Showcase 5.1 system with Martin Logan speakers and a new Pioneer Elite 151. I'm looking at picking up the 55 over the 35. As you know no HDMI for the surround system. What the best way to setup the surround...optical, digital cable, settings, etc?

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I do have a Monster optical cable, but now I hear that's not the best way.
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Gentlemen,

I have a 5 to 6 year old Krell Showcase 5.1 system with Martin Logan speakers and a new Pioneer Elite 151. I'm looking at picking up the 55 over the 35. As you know no HDMI for the surround system. What the best way to setup the surround...optical, digital cable, settings, etc?

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I do have a Monster optical cable, but now I hear that's not the best way.

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Question for ya's . I put in Forgetting Sarah Marshal last night and at first when the disk is loading it asks to download the stuff for BD-live, I say yes, then two seconds later it says connection failed. I back out of the movie and go to check my Int. connection, connection passes, I also checked for firmware update, thinking this would at least confirm the player is sending info in and out, and apparently it worked fine, it told me I was up to date. tried to fire it up again and got the same. Is the BD live feature just qurky still, I dont think it has anything to do with tmy broadband connection seein as everything passed, any ideas (OH I have the 55)

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I plan to use 5.1 analog outs from the BD55 for lossless and bitstream over optical for legacy DD and DTS.

According to several posts in the S550 thread, that combination is not possible with the Sony player. Decoding lossless means the S/PDIF output is limited to 2ch PCM.

It looks like the BD55 is more flexible in that regard, at least according to the UK version of the manual. As I read it, the BD55 decodes whatever track is being played regardless of the other settings. That takes care of lossless over analog. Then, you can set HDMI Audio to Off and Digital Out to Bitstream, which will send DD and DTS tracks to a receiver for decoding.

Is that the way it works?
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Someone give me some help with this. I am new to the bluray player seen. Anyhow, I was going to play a regular DVD on my BD-35 last night. I had only played one other disc before, a blu-ray, which I played as PCM. I wanted to try bitstream on the DVD, so I changed the setting in the player. The DVD was labeled as having Dolby Digital. When I did that, I got no sound. Just the video, all through HDMI connections. So I ended up going back to the PCM setting just to watch the DVD. Is there something else I have to change in the setting when I try to use bitstream? Or is there something on my Onkyo receiver that might need changing? Thanks.

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Ok, I have my 55 up and running, DTS-MA sounds fantastic...Now I have one problem, and can't seem to figure out what I have set wrong...
When I try to switch to the DD track over optical, I'm getting just 2channel...
My setup is 5.1 analog output, for the Dolby TrueHD and DTS-MA..I have no HDMI so that is turned off..
Should I have both settings in the 55 set to Bitstream? I thought I had tried that, and my Secondary audio is set to off...But isn't that only effected if you are running HDMI?
Thanks for any help....
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Question for ya's . I put in Forgetting Sarah Marshal last night and at first when the disk is loading it asks to download the stuff for BD-live, I say yes, then two seconds later it says connection failed. I back out of the movie and go to check my Int. connection, connection passes, I also checked for firmware update, thinking this would at least confirm the player is sending info in and out, and apparently it worked fine, it told me I was up to date. tried to fire it up again and got the same. Is the BD live feature just qurky still, I dont think it has anything to do with tmy broadband connection seein as everything passed, any ideas (OH I have the 55)

Did you have an SD card inserted to the player? Try that first..

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