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I have an interesting problem. I have my BD55 hooked up to my Onkyo 705. Both are at 120V 60Hz. Then the video goes to a LG 47LE5500 LED display which is at 220V 50Hz. The problem is that the BD discs only play at 60Hz, not 24Hz even though the TV does have 100/120Hz capability. The 24p setting on the BD55 is on. I also have a LG BH200 hooked up identically and it does put out 24Hz on the same movies. Any ideas?
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I have an interesting problem. I have my BD55 hooked up to my Onkyo 705. Both are at 120V 60Hz. Then the video goes to a LG 47LE5500 LED display which is at 220V 50Hz. The problem is that the BD discs only play at 60Hz, not 24Hz even though the TV does have 100/120Hz capability. The 24p setting on the BD55 is on. I also have a LG BH200 hooked up identically and it does put out 24Hz on the same movies. Any ideas?

For starters the AC power rating should not make the difference for what the display frequency is. But I am curious how it is your tv is at 220v and your other devices are at 110v. For most people these devices are close enough to each other that they are on the same circuit even if it's a different outlet.

As for the 24p make sure things like bd-wise or anynet are turned off on all your devices. Usually under the hdmi settings. These things will sometimes change the hdmi output settings on your bluray player.

I have seen issues where the EDID information is not read fast enough due to a bad mix of hdmi cables. Make sure all your cables are high speed hdmi cables. Eg a high speed cable from receiver to tv but low speed cable from receiver to player.

Also try connecting the panasonic using the hdmi cable on your lg player.

Also try connecting the player right to your tv using a high speed hdmi cable.
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24 P is greyed out for me and I have it hooked to a 24 P TV, Any ideas?

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For starters the AC power rating should not make the difference for what the display frequency is. But I am curious how it is your tv is at 220v and your other devices are at 110v. For most people these devices are close enough to each other that they are on the same circuit even if it's a different outlet.

As for the 24p make sure things like bd-wise or anynet are turned off on all your devices. Usually under the hdmi settings. These things will sometimes change the hdmi output settings on your bluray player.

I have seen issues where the EDID information is not read fast enough due to a bad mix of hdmi cables. Make sure all your cables are high speed hdmi cables. Eg a high speed cable from receiver to tv but low speed cable from receiver to player.

Also try connecting the panasonic using the hdmi cable on your lg player.

Also try connecting the player right to your tv using a high speed hdmi cable.

well I am living in the land of rice and noodles (AKA Vietnam) and brought with me the BD players and Onkyo from the states so they are on 110V transformers. I tried your suggestions and none work. Also even my Asus media player outputs 24p to the TV (also hooked up to the Onkyo etc). I guess there is some kind of incompatability between the BD55 and the LG TV. Oh well
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24 P is greyed out for me and I have it hooked to a 24 P TV, Any ideas?

What brand/model of TV? Have you tried different HDMI cables?
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I have tried it on all three tv's in my Sig, I am pretty sure they all support it. and I have used diffrent top dollar monster stuff to mid level stuff to cheap ones.

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Are you sure it's a 24P disc? It might be greyed out if the disc itself isn't done in 24P.
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That I am unsure of. How would I know if there 24 P Disc? I have trued with a bunch of diffrent ones.

Are all my TVs 24 P? I think they are.

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Most BD movies are 24p because that is what most movies are filmed at. Only anime, and some live TV shows are shot at 60 Hz.. There are many software programs that will tell you for sure. Look on doom9 forum
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That I am unsure of. How would I know if there 24 P Disc? I have trued with a bunch of diffrent ones.

Are all my TVs 24 P? I think they are.

Are you connecting directly from the BD player to the TVs or through an AVR (I smell a handshake issue)?
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Nope Always straight to the TV. Will I notice the diffrence with 24 P enabled?

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I have an interesting problem. I have my BD55 hooked up to my Onkyo 705. Both are at 120V 60Hz. Then the video goes to a LG 47LE5500 LED display which is at 220V 50Hz. The problem is that the BD discs only play at 60Hz, not 24Hz even though the TV does have 100/120Hz capability. The 24p setting on the BD55 is on. I also have a LG BH200 hooked up identically and it does put out 24Hz on the same movies. Any ideas?

Does the Onkyo have a video conversion feature? Be sure it's off.

Isn't it time someone promoted quality as value?
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It doesnt run though the reciever straight to teh TV.

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It doesnt run though the reciever straight to teh TV.

Make sure there is no disc in the player when you try to set it to 24p. See what you get.
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My original copy of the 3-disc set and the replacement set both freeze on my Panny BD35 at the exact point(s) noted in this thread.

Some have opined that this is the layer change mark that's difficult for some players to properly navigate, and a firmware upgrade is suggested. Others seem to believe that this is a disc authoring problem and that there's a "bad batch" still working its way through the retail channels.

As detailed in the above thread, this occurs prior to the Sampan massacre scene at around the 1:15 minute mark of the original cut, and of course a slightly different spot in the Redux cut.

Do any of you have this blu-ray, and is it freezing on your Pannys?
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My original copy of the 3-disc set and the replacement set both freeze on my Panny BD35 at the exact point(s) noted in this thread.

Some have opined that this is the layer change mark that's difficult for some players to properly navigate, and a firmware upgrade is suggested. Others seem to believe that this is a disc authoring problem and that there's a "bad batch" still working its way through the retail channels.

As detailed in the above thread, this occurs prior to the Sampan massacre scene at around the 1:15 minute mark of the original cut, and of course a slightly different spot in the Redux cut.

Do any of you have this blu-ray, and is it freezing on your Pannys?

I watched the extended cut shortly after getting the set (shortly after it came out), and aside from my not really liking the additions all that much (first time I'd seen them), I had no problems playing it on my '35.

My firmware is up to date, if yours is not I would definitely suggest trying that rather than just swapping out discs. (And likely irrelevant, but I also
have a memory card in place.)
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No problem viewing Apocalypse Now Redux on my BDP-35. I've watched it twice.
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Folks, I have to apologize for this false report. My Panasonic player with the "Apocalypse Now" problem is the BD30, not the BD35. I will post this in the correct thread!

Again, my apologies.

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My original copy of the 3-disc set and the replacement set both freeze on my Panny BD35 at the exact point(s) noted in this thread.

Some have opined that this is the layer change mark that's difficult for some players to properly navigate, and a firmware upgrade is suggested. Others seem to believe that this is a disc authoring problem and that there's a "bad batch" still working its way through the retail channels.

As detailed in the above thread, this occurs prior to the Sampan massacre scene at around the 1:15 minute mark of the original cut, and of course a slightly different spot in the Redux cut.

Do any of you have this blu-ray, and is it freezing on your Pannys?

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Ok, I will check it with no disc and also make sure I am using a Blu Ray disc. I believe I have tried both of these already but I will try agagin. Also does anyone know if I can set it to 24 P when its hooked up to my Sammy DLP TV listed in my Sig?

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Panasonic DMP BD55
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Ok, I will check it with no disc and also make sure I am using a Blu Ray disc. I believe I have tried both of these already but I will try agagin. Also does anyone know if I can set it to 24 P when its hooked up to my Sammy DLP TV listed in my Sig?

Late, late, late reply, but I had this same problem with my TV. The only way to get 24p was to play a DVD and use the remote to change it to 24p, OR set the aspect ratio on the BD35 to a 16:9 AR. If you are using 4:3, 24p won't work on blu-rays.
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Anyone had a problem with the Pip audio on the Pacific Blue Rays? I could not figure out how to sound on that.
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Anyone had a problem with the Pip audio on the Pacific Blue Rays? I could not figure out how to sound on that.

Did you turn Secondary Audio on?
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Did you turn Secondary Audio on?
Yes--it was on.
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I Didnt know u could use the remote, how do you do that?

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Yes--it was on.
Is it on in the digital audio configuration? The secondary button on the remote does not engage SA unless it is on in the system setup.
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My BD35 sometimes freezes up on a Netflix blu ray that may need cleaning.
However, it's now freezing up on some of my home blu rays that are completely clean. I have the latest firmware from 4/26/10.
Anyone else have this problem?
When it freezes up, you have to turn the power off and wait a minute or two for it to even shut off - then start over.
A couple more of these and I'm going to shop for a new player.
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Mr. Mojo, if the unit is at the point of you throwing it away anyways, I would recommend one last ditch effort to "repair" it:

Take the top off and gain access to the laser. Being careful not to dispense any propellant liquid, blast the laser assembly, at close range, with several shots of compressed air. In addition to clearing away any dust accumulation on the lens surface, this will also jog/exercise the laser in its up/down coil assembly [which can be dangerous on its own with this sort of explosive force, so that's why I'm only advising this as a last ditch effort for a unit heading to the garbage dump anyways].

Still no luck playing discs? Step two is to apply a very, very small drop of WD-40 to the laser copper coil wire next to the laser to help lubricate its up/down travel track (focus distance). Don't get any on the lens surface, obviously, and use a toothpick dipped into a puddle of WD-40 you've made on your work bench (on waxed paper or, say, a dish/bowl) as your dispensing mechanism.

Let us know if it helps.

[Note: this sort of "repair" may only give you a temporary fix for half a year, if lucky, but it is virtually free and couldn't hurt if the unit is being disposed of anyways]

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Mr. Mojo, if the unit is at the point of you throwing it away anyways, I would recommend one last ditch effort to "repair" it:

Take the top off and gain access to the laser. Being careful not to dispense any propellant liquid, blast the laser assembly, at close range, with several shots of compressed air. In addition to clearing away any dust accumulation on the lens surface, this will also jog/exercise the laser in its up/down coil assembly [which can be dangerous on its own with this sort of explosive force, so that's why I'm only advising this as a last ditch effort for a unit heading to the garbage dump anyways].

Still no luck playing discs? Step two is to apply a very, very small drop of WD-40 to the laser copper coil wire next to the laser to help lubricate its up/down travel track (focus distance). Don't get any on the lens surface, obviously, and use a toothpick dipped into a puddle of WD-40 you've made on your work bench (on waxed paper or, say, a dish/bowl) as your dispensing mechanism.

Let us know if it helps.

[Note: this sort of "repair" may only give you a temporary fix for half a year, if lucky, but it is virtually free and couldn't hurt if the unit is being disposed of anyways]

Hi Zillch - thanks for the suggestion.
I probably didn't explain clear enough. It plays most BR discs fine but has a habit of locking up after 40-50 minutes of the movie. It used to happen occasionally with Netflix discs that had smudges or dirt but has recently done it the last time I watched 2 of my own BRs - Gladiator and Groundhog Day. Since it works most of the time, I would probably donate it to a friend and replace it.
Is there a safe, careful way to try the air blast?
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Is there a safe, careful way to try the air blast?

The blast of air works on two principles:

A) Cleaning away any small layer of dust which is blurring the laser's output or reflected view of that output.

B) Forcefully smacking it up side the head, similar to how one would kick a vending machine if it fails to dispense your soda . Your are hoping to dislodge something which is sticking. The thing is it is a delicate assembly which has to precisely focus on a surface which is so small that it is invisible to our unaided eyes.

If, let's say, your camera was having troubles , would you ever think to smack it ? Well oddly you may actually fix your camera in some instances by doing so, but do it by the wrong amount, a very hard thing to measure or describe over the web, and you may very well break some other aspect of your camera!


I guess to clean your lens more gently you could also dip a Q-tip in 99% alcohol , shake off the excess, and gently swab across the laser surface a few times, allowing it to dry before playing a disc, but I can't say I've ever done this.{ And I take no responsibility if anything goes wrong. } Others on the web talk about cleaning lasers in this way, for example Playstations, but "dirt/dust" may not even be your issue. It very well may be laser focus or angle, both which can be affected by heat build up which is supported by your observation that BD play fine for the first part of the movie and then get stuck.

You've exhausted my knowledge on the topic. Good luck.

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That would be two "principles".

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