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post #14461 of 14982 Old 06-21-2011, 07:38 PM
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No, I successfully applied my approach to 2 school principals' disc players.

In A/V reproduction accuracy, there is no concept of "accounting for taste". We don't "pick" the level of bass any more than we get to pick the ending of a play. High fidelity is an unbiased, neutral, exact copy (or "reproduction") of the original source's tonal balance, timing, dynamics, etc..

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The blast of air works on two principles:

A) Cleaning away any small layer of dust which is blurring the laser's output or reflected view of that output.

B) Forcefully smacking it up side the head, similar to how one would kick a vending machine if it fails to dispense your soda . Your are hoping to dislodge something which is sticking. The thing is it is a delicate assembly which has to precisely focus on a surface which is so small that it is invisible to our unaided eyes.

If, let's say, your camera was having troubles , would you ever think to smack it ? Well oddly you may actually fix your camera in some instances by doing so, but do it by the wrong amount, a very hard thing to measure or describe over the web, and you may very well break some other aspect of your camera!


I guess to clean your lens more gently you could also dip a Q-tip in 99% alcohol , shake off the excess, and gently swab across the laser surface a few times, allowing it to dry before playing a disc, but I can't say I've ever done this.{ And I take no responsibility if anything goes wrong. } Others on the web talk about cleaning lasers in this way, for example Playstations, but "dirt/dust" may not even be your issue. It very well may be laser focus or angle, both which can be affected by heat build up which is supported by your observation that BD play fine for the first part of the movie and then get stuck.

You've exhausted my knowledge on the topic. Good luck.

I haven't figured out what I'm going to do yet, but I certainly appreciate the time you took here to try to help me out.
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When Was the last Firmware Released? Will there be more?

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Will there be more?

I can provide you with my paypal address and the answer.

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I figured there would not be, I went to the Panny site to check but was having problems with it.

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I haven't seen an update in a long time. I think the machine has been orphaned at this point.
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I haven't seen an update in a long time. I think the machine has been orphaned at this point.
I thought the same thing about my BTT-350 and just saw an firmware update message on the screen a day ago.

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arent firmware updates only when a new blu ray movie comes out and doesnt play on the 35? if a new one comes out and has that problem, shouldnt they release the firmware update?
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arent firmware updates only when a new blu ray movie comes out and doesnt play on the 35? if a new one comes out and has that problem, shouldnt they release the firmware update?

That has been the case in the past. However, I'd think @ this point BD 2.0 has been around long enough that FW updates based on discs & thier certain features that may gum up the works are mostly done with.

I do seem to recall my BD35's first update that I performed had something to do w/ the Dark Knight BD & some of it's features?

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arent firmware updates only when a new blu ray movie comes out and doesnt play on the 35? if a new one comes out and has that problem, shouldnt they release the firmware update?

Yes, that's how I think it works, and here's my understanding of why:

Although I've never been able to pin it to a specific, on-line statement from a movie studio, it was my understanding that 99% of bluray 2.0 firmware "updates" are actually an exchange of " digital keys" which allow access to certain new movies, often tied to the very profitable "blockbusters", done to help the movie industry by preventing piracy.

In A/V reproduction accuracy, there is no concept of "accounting for taste". We don't "pick" the level of bass any more than we get to pick the ending of a play. High fidelity is an unbiased, neutral, exact copy (or "reproduction") of the original source's tonal balance, timing, dynamics, etc..

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Although I've never been able to pin it to a specific, on-line statement from a movie studio, it was my understanding that 99% of bluray 2.0 firmware "updates" are actually an exchange of " digital keys" which allow access to certain new movies, often tied to the very profitable "blockbusters", done to help the movie industry by preventing piracy.

If that's true, and the newer movies really can't be played without player updates, then the manufacturers can never stop releasing firmware updates. I suspect that the studios are unscrupulous enough to love that sort of trickery, but it's surely a terrible burden to put on the manufacturers.
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I have original 2008 firmware on my BD55 and it has never failed to play a disc.
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I have original 2008 firmware on my BD55 and it has never failed to play a disc.

Then all the players were not created equal. My 35 required firmware to play some Fox discs and maybe a few other thangs...it's hard to remember clearly back several players ago...

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I have original 2008 firmware on my BD55 and it has never failed to play a disc.

Were you able to play Avatar? (blu ray version)
I couldn't get my BD35 to play it even with the latest firmware (4/26/10 FW).
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Then all the players were not created equal. My 35 required firmware to play some Fox discs and maybe a few other thangs...it's hard to remember clearly back several players ago...

It's the discs that are not all created equal. Many (if not most) movies will play just fine on the early firmware versions, so if the dice fall just right, and someone happens to not watch any of the movies that DO require the updates, they'd be just fine.
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Avatar Would not play on my BD 10 A with the newest firmware ( 2008 ) I think, It did play on my BD 55 with the newest firmware with out an issue.

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Were you able to play Avatar? (blu ray version)

Yes.
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I think the last FW update on my BD-35 was well over a year ago, and Avatar blu-ray plays fine. In fact, I've never had a blu-ray disc not play, and for the past 2+ years I've watched about 3-4 blu-ray movies a month via Netflix.
BD-35 been veddy veddy good to me, man.

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if i remember correctly the last blu ray i couldnt play on my 35 was inglorious bastards, but then i downloaded the latest firmware and the movie worked
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Earlier in this thread there were some significant issues with one of the more recent Disney titles. Don't recall which. No firmware update since before then, so likely still an issue (although there was a pretty funky workaround, fwiw, nothing terribly obvious).

On the whole, 35 is/was veddy veddy good to me too. But, firmware's a little creaky on a few titles.
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if i remember correctly the last blu ray i couldnt play on my 35 was inglorious bastards, but then i downloaded the latest firmware and the movie worked

I know, a little off topic but it would have been better if "Inglorious Bastards" had never played. A very awful movie in my opinion.

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I know, a little off topic but it would have been better if "Inglorious Bastards" had never played. A very awful movie in my opinion.

Each to his own taste. I loved it. They did take a few liberties with history ....
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He got this part right.

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I know, a little off topic

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He got this part right.

Again, in your own opinion.

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I've had it a couple years now and it's been slow since day 1 (Slower than the old non-BluRay player). But it seems that it's even slower now. Is this typical for this player? Or are ALL BluRay players slow?

If it should not be slow, I'd love a recommendation on a new player to replace it.

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I've had it a couple years now and it's been slow since day 1 (Slower than the old non-BluRay player). But it seems that it's even slower now. Is this typical for this player? Or are ALL BluRay players slow? If it should not be slow, I'd love a recommendation on a new player to replace it.
When the movie is playing slow, try depressing the fast forward button one time; movie should then play a little faster, but I dunno if the sound speeds up too.
My -35 can sometimes take a minute or so to load, but plays perfectly: not too fast/not too slow.

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Thanks Sgooter. I didn't explain too well. The movies play at the right speed, but, like you describe, the dvd loads very slowly. And when skipping through previews, scenes, etc. it takes forever. I mean 'Go get a bowl of ice cream' slow. It seems really slow, but if all blu rays are slow there's no point in looking for a new player.
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Finally took the plunge and upgraded to an Oppo 93. It is not slow by any means. The technology marches onward. (Though I don't have BD-Live turned on for it, whereas I did for the '35). Keeping the '35 around just in case it can play something that the '35 can't; haven't had that happen yet, though.
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whatever... more OT.
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Not at all.
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