I'm going to weigh in lightly about this back and forth battle that i've seen here as well as the 51/05 thread. I apologize in advance because this will be lengthy. My experience working in the electrical engineering field for a global giant has taught me All manufactures have their problems when producing a quality consumer product!
I don't care what their track record for quality is, or what it was. Global competition has forced ALL companies to cut corners, reduce overhead costs, and prematurely bring products to the market. Companies take cash flow from their R&D departments and allocate it towards their P.C.T.O. department. For those of you who don't know what P.C.T.O. means... it's Product Cost Take Out. I'm constantly included on the PCTO team. I'm always being told to make the same "quality" product at a fraction of the cost it currently is being produced for. In this day and age, PCTO KILLS a quality company like Pioneer, Denon, Samsung, ETC. You can't keep taking money out of a product without it's overall quality and efficiency suffering. With this said........I guarantee that's what were facing with problematic consumer products! ANYTHING built today is not of the quality standard of 10-20+ years ago. Technologically advanced YES. Quality NO.
I know... what's this have to do with this thread or bickering? A lot.
I bought my first Denon product back in 1992. It was a 5 disc carousel CD player. I still have, and use it. Everything works on it and it has given me NO problems. WHY? Standard of quality back then. I've owned many other Denon products over the years. AVRs, DVD players, DVD changers, CD changers, their quality has decreased dramatically. I've had lasers go out, displays go out, etc.... Do I blame Denon whole heartedly? No. I was upset like anybody would be but I knew Denon put out quality products. My Denon DVD3910 was introduced to consumers prematurely. Denon knew they had the HDMI handshake issue but they brought it out anyway. They wanted to be on the forefront of the HDMI technology. I was wowed by that HDMI capabilty....did it work? No, not untill a FW revision, which took them some time. The people bitched.... I have since moved on to the Pioneer Elite front. I reviewed for months before I bought my current theater equipment. People told me don't buy brand X because their junk, don't buy brand Y because they have lousy customer support. I bought my equipment based on the MAJORITY of the people on this forum. More positive comments then negative ones. Review people! Keep an open mind. Pioneer has demonstrated it's viable for great products, Denon has always put out a great product until about 2001. They are still good but that's when, IMHO, their quality started to decline. Denon's AVRs are still great but I probably won't buy another CD or DVD player.
FWIW....people bitching about FW update for DTS-MA. Pioneer, like any other company in this POS economy, probably has their FW programming department pulling double or triple duties because they are understaffed and have a hiring freeze. They probably are running IT duties as well.... so have some patience. It's not that they don't CARE, they do, but running two departments is tedious....trust me I KNOW. I told you I'm long winded