Originally Posted by HDTVAV
Which thread is that...?
You do seem to be incredibly lazy...
You just need to scroll down the page a few inches, here's the link:
Pioneer Elite BDP-85FD and BDP-88FD Blu-ray Players at CEDIA 2014
While we're spoon feeding, here's the pdf's of the specifications for the BDP-88/85. You can click and view or print them so you
can make your own comparisons.
If you care to look at post number #103
in the other thread, by Chris Walker (Walkamo)
who is the Pioneer representative, he talks about the BDP-88/85 being targeted at high resolution audio in the Japanese and European markets.
Just in case your clicking finger isn't working, here's his quote:
Originally Posted by Walkamo
Have not been in these forums for quite some time.. I have only played with the BDP-88FD during the Cedia show. Have not had a chance to compare it to my Oppo BDP-105 (Yes I use a BDP-105). The build quality is quite nice and the picture did look very good. (We had it hooked up to a Panasonic 65" 4K TV that accepted 4:4:4 color).
I understand why people are surprised that these players are being launched so late in Blu-ray's life, however in other countries (Japan mainly), our BD player marketshare is quite large and the demand for a high end player is there. I do not expect a large quantity to be sold in the United States, however anyone looking to squeeze every bit of performance out of a Blu-ray, DVD, CD, or high res file the BDP-88FD makes sense. High Resolution audio is very popular in Japan and Europe and the BDP-88FD was designed to be a very high quality source device for these files.
I am currently at LAX Airport on my way to Japan for product planning meetings and to see the 88FD compared directly to the Oppo. I am very curious to see the results as well..
Not trying to sway anyone in any direction. Just giving out some facts...
If you have any specific questions about the players just ask. If I do not know I can ask the engineers..
Also, here is a nice pic of the BDP-88FD (exploded view).
Originally Posted by HDTVAV
So, in other words if I use HDMI - there is no difference between the LX58 and the LX 88.....
You've asked this question several times. Are you hoping the answer is going to change if you keep asking? Really, if you want to buy one of these machines just buy it. It really doesn't mater what I think or what the technology does or doesn't do if you've got your heart set on it, buy it.
But, just in case, one more time.
If you bitstream over HDMI, the decoding and DA conversion takes place in the AVR or pre-pro.
If you send PCM over HDMI, the decoding takes place at the Blu-ray player and the DA conversion is done at the AVR or the pre-pro. If you use PCM over HDMI the DTS-MA etc. lights on your AVR or pre-pro will not light up as the decoding is being done at the Blu-ray player.
In either case, bitstream or PCM over HDMI, the DA conversion is taking place at your AVR or pre-pro and you will have the "sound" of the AVR or pre-pro because that's where the DA conversion is taking place.
The DAC's in the DBP-88/85 will not be used for bitstreaming or PCM over HDMI. The BDP-88/85 will serve as transports to read the disc and send the data to the AVR or pre-pro for processing. In that way, the machines are equal. One step further, if you're using the machines as a transport only then any Blu-ray player preforms the same task regardless of price or brand name, that is, they read the data from the disc and send it to the AVR or pre-pro for decoding and DA conversion.