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Has anyone here compared the BDP-09 to the newer Pioneer Elite BR spinners ?
I had a brief comparison between the 09 and the 88 last year.

My take was that the 09 with its Wolfson DAC had a richer sound, whereas the 88 had a more detailed sound; it uses an ESS DAC. The lower frequencies of the 88 were a bit light in comparison, though still satisfying. Some reviews talked about the Oppo 105 (wich uses an ESS DAC, perhaps the same one) being a bit light on tonal balance; that sounds about right to describe what I heard in the comparison. The 88 can go up to 24/192 sampling, which seemed to open up the sound as well.

As for video, I can't say I saw significant differences in the pictures of the respective players, not enough to have stuck with me as the audio difference did. Both give great pictures, with the 88 perhaps a bit crisper, but I'd have to do the comparison again to be sure. The 88 is much faster at loading discs, and the speed difference isn't small in my opinion.
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I had a brief comparison between the 09 and the 88 last year.

My take was that the 09 with its Wolfson DAC had a richer sound, whereas the 88 had a more detailed sound; it uses an ESS DAC. The lower frequencies of the 88 were a bit light in comparison, though still satisfying. Some reviews talked about the Oppo 105 (wich uses an ESS DAC, perhaps the same one) being a bit light on tonal balance; that sounds about right to describe what I heard in the comparison. The 88 can go up to 24/192 sampling, which seemed to open up the sound as well.

As for video, I can't say I saw significant differences in the pictures of the respective players, not enough to have stuck with me as the audio difference did. Both give great pictures, with the 88 perhaps a bit crisper, but I'd have to do the comparison again to be sure. The 88 is much faster at loading discs, and the speed difference isn't small in my opinion.
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I still want a BDP-09, even though Pioneer does not support this model any longer?
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The BDP-09FD probably sounds better, but it is no longer state of art. The Burr-Brown and Wolfson DACs were good back then, but the newer ESS-9018 Sabre, AKM 4497 and the Analog Devices AD1955 have surpassed them.

You also have to consider that the Pioneer is uber-slow, taking a couple of minutes to load and play any disc, BD or CD and does not support streaming. The newer Oppos are pretty good as a all in one player, but Oppo has discontinued streaming as well. The Pioneer is several years old, which makes it an antique in electronics.

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