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post #39571 of 39586 Old 10-18-2014, 10:18 PM
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Official OPPO BDP-83 Owner's Thread [technical talk only]

I just tested the first few minutes of the new Transformers (2D) on the old '83 and it bitstreamed TrueHD 7.1 just fine to my Anthem pre.

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^ That would be an Anthem D2v, correct? OK, so there's something specific to the way the 83 is handshaking with the other poster's McIntosh AVR.

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MikeSP, do you have another TrueHD 7.1 track you can try as Bitstream from your 83 into your McIntosh? The one I usually reach for to test TrueHD 7.1 is "The Nightmare Before Christmas", Blu-ray. Note that you have to select the TrueHD 7.1 track in the disc menus for that one -- it is not the default track.

I.e, let's make sure there isn't something OTHER THAN Atmos involved here in your TrueHD 7.1 Bitstream failure from "Transformers: Age of Extinction", Blu-ray.

Also, check that you have Secondary Audio OFF in the 83, and that you have explicitly selected HDMI Audio BITSTREAM -- i.e., not AUTO.

While we're at it, let's make sure you are set properly to simplify the HDMI handshake. Set Resolution to 1080p (not AUTO or SOURCE DIRECT). Set HDMI Color Space to an explicit choice -- not AUTO. YCbCr 4:4:4 is the usual choice.

If your McIntosh will accept 1080p/24 video input on HDMI, try toggling 1080p/24 Output between AUTO and OFF to see if /24 vs. /60 video frame rate makes a difference.

Finally, if there's no easy answer from the above, try forcing a new handshake. On the 83 side, do that by using the Resolution button on the remote, with Up/Down Arrow and Enter to select a new Resolution and go back. The TrueHD 7.1 Bitstream should work sending either 720p, 1080i, or 1080p to your McIntosh. See if it DOES work at the lower resolutions and then go back to 1080p and see if it is now working. If it works at the lower resolutions but still does NOT work at 1080p, that suggests marginal HDMI cabling is the culprit.

If you can't get the audio working by forcing a new handshake from the OPPO side, next try it from the McIntosh side. Do that by changing the McIntosh to a different HDMI Input and back to the OPPO.

If STILL no joy, try this experiment: Temporarily disconnect the HDMI cable between the McIntosh and your display and now see if you can get the TrueHD 7.1 Bitstream to work. If *THAT* works for the audio (you'll have no video of course), then there's something going on with how the McIntosh handshakes with your display that is screwing things up. We can dig into that more if that's the case.

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ETA: As always, this question needs to be asked, too. Are you running the current Official firmware in your 83?

The Main firmware version number should read: BDP83-59-0117

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Some more Blu-ray titles (24) with a Dolby TrueHD 7.1 audio soundtrack:

♦ The Art of Flight
♦ Brave
♦ Chicago (Diamond)
♦ Chris Botti in Boston
♦ The Divide
♦ The Final Countdown
♦ Finding Nemo
♦ Fire and Ice
♦ G.I. Joe: Retaliation
♦ Halloween (1978)
♦ Kung Fu Panda 2
♦ Madagascar 3
♦ Mega Mind / Button of Doom
♦ Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol
♦ Monsters Inc.
♦ Monsters University
♦ Pixar Short Films Collection: Vol. 2
♦ Puss in Boots
♦ Rise of the Guardians
♦ Shrek: Forever After
♦ Shrek: The Whole Story
♦ Startrek: Into Darkness
♦ Super 8
♦ Transformers: Dark of the Moon
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It is not Dolby TrueHD 7.1 per se. I have never had trouble with that in itself, but I haven't gotten around to playing Total Recall (2012) with it's 5.1 prob...but have never had probs (like bitstream audio dropouts) with lots of the titles others have. Denon AVRs, nothing special. I am audio-picky, I would notice a gnat's fart if it shouldn't be there.

IME the most likely probs are when there's Dolby TrueHD (5.1 too) with seamless branching; that's usually the problem with these Mediatek chipsets. Three of my BDPs have Mediatek chipsets, IOW all except the PS3. Speaking as an electronics engineer, I have never like Mediatek going back many years (they "randomly" support or don't support problems with their chipsets, fixable ones that only they can do though), but what you gonna do?

FWIW, to the person who commented above about my last comment: I wasn't whinging about lack of FW updates for the 83, merely stating the facts about the PS3. No need to defend Oppo so staunchly, unless you feel they need to be defended? Do they? For what? I could criticise Oppo for hours if I wanted to, but not about FW updates though (I wouldn't mind some...). To keep it short: Oppo, stick to what you do well, and that is disc players. You are an amateur at the other stuff. Truly "fussy" people don't buy stuff just because it says Oppo, they already know who does what well. And for Oppo, that was playing discs.

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Wow, unfortunate news about the new X-Men disc and the BDP-83 compatibility; I wanted to see this in theaters and missed it, and was planning on renting it via Redbox when it comes out at the end of this month...now I'm thinking I may just opt for the DVD version to avoid all this...
You are right mines will not read the disc, folks wonder why I have three other Players.
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You are right mines will not read the disc, folks wonder why I have three other Players.

Thanks for the update, Chise; are you gonna try the DVD version?


I have until after October 28 to decide, but right now unless something changes with regard to "workarounds" for this problem with this title I'm most likely going to avoid the issue altogether and rent the DVD instead of the Blu-ray...

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Thanks for the update, Chise; are you gonna try the DVD version?


I have until after October 28 to decide, but right now unless something changes with regard to "workarounds" for this problem with this title I'm most likely going to avoid the issue altogether and rent the DVD instead of the Blu-ray...
No I'm not using DVD, But I'm going try it on BDP-93 if that doesn't work I be giving OPPO a call today.My BDP-93 it works fine with that movie.

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I just tested the first few minutes of the new Transformers (2D) on the old '83 and it bitstreamed TrueHD 7.1 just fine to my Anthem pre.
Works as it should on my 83 and Denon X4000 as well, select Atmos audio and it bitstreams the TrueHD 7.1 track.
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No I'm not using DVD, But I'm going try it on BDP-93 if that doesn't work I be giving OPPO a call today.My BDP-93 it works fine with that movie.
x-men 2d worked fine on my oppo 93.

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x-men 2d worked fine on my oppo 93.

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Do you have Oppo-83?
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Do you have Oppo-83?
I did at one time. I sold it. 6 months after the oppo 93 was released.

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I did at one time. I sold it. 6 months after the oppo 93 was released.

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I still have both.
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I called the OPPO rep. about BDP-83 they are looking into it about the new X-Men movie.
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Please let us know what they say, Chise...

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Dolby is always careful to offer a compatibility qualifier:
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dolby-atmos home-theater-installation-guidelines

You can play Dolby Atmos content encoded on a Blu-ray Disc™ through an existing Blu-ray Disc player. Be sure you have a recent player that’s fully compliant with Blu-ray™ specifications.

You will not need to replace your Blu-ray player as long as it fully conforms to the Blu-ray specification. Current-generation Blu-ray players, and most recent players, are compatible. You should check with the Blu-ray player manufacturer if you encounter problems.

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Please let us know what they say, Chise...
They said there working on it, they been getting a lot complaints about this movie.
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