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post #39601 of 39622 Old 10-23-2014, 05:12 PM
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^ Actually it is quite rare that a new title won't play on the 83. Don't panic.
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^ Actually it is quite rare that a new title won't play on the 83. Don't panic.
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It's not that I'm panicking, it's just that I'm going by statements like this one from AVfile:

I wouldn't count on it. Even if Oppo does come up with a workaround, this won't be the last title you will have problems with. You best start shopping for a cheap secondary player if you want to continue watching new releases.

and this one from Neuromancer...

Except that even after the player stopped receiving firmware upgrades, there have been around 5 titles which are not compatible with the player. Just because one "major release" has issues does not mean that you will have a general trend.

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Nowadays it's a good thing to have more than only one Blu-ray player.
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I have two decks; the problem is, my first player was a completely obsolete (now) Panasonic DMP-BD10A that not only doesn't bitstream TrueHD, it doesn't support Master Audio at all...

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^ Here, breath into this brown paper sack. Breath. Breath. Breath....

Stupid studio authoring tricks will always be with us. They can't help themselves. The worst that can happen is that you simply don't watch the handful of movie discs authored by idiots. Go stream it on VUDU on your TV for example. Or boycott the studio altogether.
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Bob,

I don't understand why you keep insisting that I am hyperventilating or otherwise going into a full-bore Ebola panic over the OPPO BDP-83...

BTW -- it's "breathe" not "breath" in the context you were attempting to communicate in...

All I was doing was asking if it was feasible to take everyone's assertions here that many new discs probably won't play on this deck going forward, as it's been suggested by several members (two of which I referenced in my last message to you). Are you now saying, in differently worded terminology (i.e. "the worst that can happen is that you'd have to skip some titles..."), that there will in fact be a handful or more of current and future releases that won't play?

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I don't understand why you keep insisting that I am hyperventilating or otherwise going into a full-bore Ebola panic over the OPPO BDP-83...

BTW -- it's "breathe" not "breath" in the context you were attempting to communicate in...

All I was doing was asking if it was feasible to take everyone's assertions here that many new discs probably won't play on this deck going forward, as it's been suggested by several members (two of which I referenced in my last message to you). Are you now saying, in differently worded terminology (i.e. "the worst that can happen is that you'd have to skip some titles..."), that there will in fact be a handful or more of current and future releases that won't play?
Neuromancer indicated that there are a total of 5 known titles that won't play, including at least 1 popular movie. It stands to reason that the number will increase over time. It's not ideal, but if you consider it a big deal, it's probably time to sell the BDP-83 and upgrade to a newer player - Oppo or otherwise. I think you'll find that BDP-83's still hold their value surprisingly well on the used market.
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Lame attempt at humor aside, my point was that the number of problem discs has been small and will likely remain small compared to the overall number of titles being released.
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Wait a minute, wait a minute fellas...


Are you telling me the BDP-83 could basically be totally obsolete going forward as new releases hit the market? This is discouraging, because I was waiting to buy one of their next-generation 4K players once they're launched to replace my '83 -- not any time before that, as the player has been solid as a rock for us on DVD and Blu-ray.


What would new releases be encoded or bogged down with that would render them unplayable on the deck? Is BD-Live seeing a resurrection from its longtime slumber?

I've got an 83 that is now my second player (was my first for four years) and have no problem with almost all of my blurays. I think the only one with issues for me was Monsters U. Everything else plays and so far all new titles play too. Haven't tried this one on it since I have a 103D doing main duty now.

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Lame attempt at humor aside, my point was that the number of problem discs has been small and will likely remain small compared to the overall number of titles being released.
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This they way I look at it, I have 6 hdmi inputs I use every one of them on my receiver, My next bluray player will be PS4.
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Fair enough, gentlemen...

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Neuromancer indicated that there are a total of 5 known titles that won't play, including at least 1 popular movie. It stands to reason that the number will increase over time. It's not ideal, but if you consider it a big deal, it's probably time to sell the BDP-83 and upgrade to a newer player - Oppo or otherwise. I think you'll find that BDP-83's still hold their value surprisingly well on the used market.
Yep - selling the BDP-83 and switching to a manufacturer/player with a stronger reputation for their firmware being able to deal with new releases more reliably sounds like a worthy recommendation. Or, if you are married to your BDP-83 for some reason, pick up an additional player from a manufacturer with a stronger reputation for their firmware being able to deal with new releases more reliably.

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Or buy a player that does what you want, when you buy it, exceptionally well, and resign yourself to the fact that the powers that be in the home entertainment industry are going to continue to work diligently to make you want to replace your gear with newer gear faster than you would like. As they always have.
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Great thread, smart posts, good bunch of people.

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I have yet to have a BD not play on my 83. If it wouldn't work, I would try it it in my PS3. If that worked, I would not have lossless audio because my receiver is old with no HDMI ins, just 7.1 analog. If the PS3 won't work, I would just give up. I'm not buying a new player

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I have yet to have a BD not play on my 83. If it wouldn't work, I would try it it in my PS3. If that worked, I would not have lossless audio because my receiver is old with no HDMI ins, just 7.1 analog. If the PS3 won't work, I would just give up. I'm not buying a new player
Even a PS4?
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Fellas...


I said fair enough...


And if possible, I won't be trading up my BDP-83 until OPPO announces their 4K deck (well, that's IF and WHEN the format "becomes" a home optical disc format)...if this doesn't pan out, I will upgrade, I suppose, to a newer OPPO BD player.

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I'm pretty sure somebody a few pages ago recommended if you have a BD which the 83 won't play, just rip the thing to your computer and watch it via software.
In my case, my 2009 Mac Pro running OS 10.10, MakeMKV, and XBMC have yet to miss on any BD (or HDDVD for that matter) that I've thrown at it. I don't get DTS-HD MA or DDTHD (but I believe IBM-type PCs can) but for the few I've ever had that the 83 won't play I couldn't care less.

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Just a quick question that I am sure has been answered countless times in this very long thread.

I have a 83 SE. I use the dedicated analog stereo outputs to feed a headphone amp and HDMI to my processor for speakers. I have considered picking up a used 95 so I can use the XLR analog outputs to feed the processor for stereo and still have the rca outputs to feed the headphone amp. I don't listen to much music in stereo but I've always wanted to compare the XLR inputs to HDMI on my Onkyo 886. I know the 886 is far from a great analog preamp but it has worked flawlessly and sounds damn good with my setup.

Anyway, the second reason why I want the 95 is for streaming and to listen to music via a hard drive.

From what I understand if I wanted to get into digital music, like from HD tracks, the 83 won't be able to play the files. Is that correct?
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From what I understand if I wanted to get into digital music, like from HD tracks, the 83 won't be able to play the files. Is that correct?
The -83 has very limited support for hidef audio files, so likely not. See the FAQ: What lossless audio file formats are supported?

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So would replacing the 83 SE with a 95 be a good idea?
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Also consider the 105 or 105D as they have even more file types supported than the 95.
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