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My Oppo 83 wont display anything on my tv screen after i tried to play a PAL disc in player and set system from NTSC to multisystem.I want to change it back but it wont display anything on screen except mode not supported.Ive tried P/N button on remote and setup menu and nothing comes up on screen except mode not supported.I took out the disc,shut off player,unplugged player and still nothing on screen but mode not supported.Please help.
1st, there's no need to make any changes for PAL content, just leave the player set to NTSC.
You may need to press the P/N button more than once to get back to NTSC output. Be sure to remove any disc from the player first.
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My Oppo 83 wont display anything on my tv screen after i tried to play a PAL disc in player and set system from NTSC to multisystem.I want to change it back but it wont display anything on screen except mode not supported.Ive tried P/N button on remote and setup menu and nothing comes up on screen except mode not supported.I took out the disc,shut off player,unplugged player and still nothing on screen but mode not supported.Please help.
Here's the fix -- from OPPO's Knowledge Base:

http://www.oppodigital.com/KnowledgeBase.aspx?KBID=83

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1st, there's no need to make any changes for PAL content, just leave the player set to NTSC.
You may need to press the P/N button more than once to get back to NTSC output. Be sure to remove any disc from the player first.
Thanks for your help.So you are saying I can play a region free Blu Ray PAL disc on my oppo 83 without having to make any changes to my player?That is great news.

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Thanks for your help.So you are saying I can play a region free Blu Ray PAL disc on my oppo 83 without having to make any changes to my player?That is great news.
When the player is set to NTSC output, ANY content will be output at 60Hz. (except 24p BD content)
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When the player is set to NTSC output, ANY content will be output at 60Hz. (except 24p BD content)
Thanks.Is there anyway to tell if a PAL blu ray disc is 24p?

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Thanks.Is there anyway to tell if a PAL blu ray disc is 24p?
Before playing it? The box sometimes gives the frame rate. Else, the on screen display shows it during playback.

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Thanks.Is there anyway to tell if a PAL blu ray disc is 24p?
If its 24p, its not PAL. But all you have to do is pull up the OSD in the Oppo. (Info button)
Most BD movies are 24p. TV shows, concerts and the like may be 50i (PAL).
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There is no such thing as a PAL Blu-Ray. PAL is a standard video format and doesn't apply to Blu-Ray. There can be PAL standard video extras on a Blu-Ray sometimes though. There are Blu-Ray 50i discs but these are rare (mostly some documentaries or European music video) but the Oppos can play these just fine. Almost all movies, regardless of country of origin, are 24p. What does matter is whether the disc is region-free (i.e. Zone AB or ABC) rather than region-locked (Zone A). The majority of major studio Blu-Ray discs are region-free these days. Exceptions are usually from smaller publishers like Criterion, Eureka, Olive and some others.
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Thanks.I feel a lot more secure about ordering region free blu ray concerts on amazon.com UK now.

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Official OPPO BDP-83 Owner's Thread [technical talk only]

A lot of the UK movies are region locked on BD (eg: Paddington) so be careful and look them up on blu-ray.com or other sites before buying. For music / concerts I think you will be safe.

There is a quick and easy firmware hack that will make the player DVD region free. It does nothing for BD regions. See the FAQ or search this thread for "Super Disk".
edit: oh wait, I see you were looking into this 2 years ago. Retire that 983 yet?

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nope perfect international dvd player

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Does anyone know if Persistent Storage should be cleaned out on a regular basis?
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It's highly unlikely you'll need to clean it due to running short of space. However, there have been instances where studios managed to leave stuff in there from one of their titles which screwed up proper playback from another of their titles. This isn't supposed to happen (use of Persistent Storage is supposed to be keyed to individual discs), but there you go. So if the player starts behaving oddly, the recommended first steps will always include Erasing Persistent Storage, "just in case".
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Is it okay to do on a "regular" basis, Bob?
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^ Oh, sure. Any disc which uses it will simply reload content it wants to store there (playback status or stuff downloaded off the Internet) next time you play that disc.
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I mean clear the persistent storage out; this can be done regularly? Would this ensure the player's memory isn't getting "bogged down" leading to slower performance, etc?
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I mean clear the persistent storage out; this can be done regularly? Would this ensure the player's memory isn't getting "bogged down" leading to slower performance, etc?
Persistent Storage is not a problem -- until it's a problem. I clear it constantly when testing firmware. If there were a "clear automatically" feature I'd use it.

But there is no reason to do so unless you experience a playback problem.

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Persistent Storage is not a problem -- until it's a problem. I clear it constantly when testing firmware. If there were a "clear automatically" feature I'd use it.

But there is no reason to do so unless you experience a playback problem.

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Well, I'm always in the player's setup menu when I do "system diagnostic" checks every so often on my entire system...this is when I dump the Persistent Storage...was just wondering if it was okay to do so on a regular basis, even if "something isn't wrong" with the player...
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Well, I'm always in the player's setup menu when I do "system diagnostic" checks every so often on my entire system...this is when I dump the Persistent Storage...was just wondering if it was okay to do so on a regular basis, even if "something isn't wrong" with the player...
Perfectly fine.

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Well, I'm always in the player's setup menu when I do "system diagnostic" checks every so often on my entire system...this is when I dump the Persistent Storage...was just wondering if it was okay to do so on a regular basis, even if "something isn't wrong" with the player...


If you play HFPA BD-A discs a lot you must clean Persistent Storage on a regular basis. For some reason they give the player fits unless you do.
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04/08/15: received the 83 this A.M. Looks and acts like new, and for no cost to me. Excellent!


Well, I finally got tired of pushing the eject button multiple times to get the empty tray to open, called Oppo yesterday for an RMA, dropped it off in Mountain View around noon today (beautiful drive down I280), and just received the notice that it's been Fedexed and will be at my door tomorrow! I love that company!

BTW: if you decide to take your 83 in person, do not believe your GPS!
I had the same problem that I was tired of dealing with. Shipped mine off April 17th from Virginia, Oppo received my unit on April 24th, they fixed my unit at no cost to me and shipped the unit out the same day. Repaired unit was delivered today, can't wait to get home and get it back up and going. Customer service is OUTSTANDING, by far the best I've had the chance to deal with.
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Perfectly fine.

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Thank you, sir.
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If you play HFPA BD-A discs a lot you must clean Persistent Storage on a regular basis. For some reason they give the player fits unless you do.

I don't, but thank you for the heads up.
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As long as he realizes what he's dumping and doesn't mind.

What does that mean?
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What does that mean?

Do you know what you're erasing or not? If not maybe you should leave it alone. It sounds like you're erasing it just because you can.

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What does that mean?
There's really no problem. Persistent storage keeps data from each disc you play which was intended to be saved. This might include resume playback points, downloaded BD-Live junk, or any of a plethora of stuff the JAVA programmer thought was a good idea. If you're done playing a BD and don't expect to be using it again soon, there's no reason not to erase. Much of what gets stored there is erased by the JAVA programming when you stop playback of the disc, by design. If a disc is ejected without properly stopping playback, or if the player crashes for some reason, or power is interrupted, etc., stuff can be left behind that wasn't meant to be saved. Erasing storage is a fix for that scenario when the stuff left behind causes problems. Sometimes discs from the same studio might have similar programming being saved, which may or may not cause issues. Bottom line is that you can erase it as often as you like and NEVER cause an issue other than losing resume points or similar data.
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Do you know what you're erasing or not? If not maybe you should leave it alone. It sounds like you're erasing it just because you can.

I assumed, as was quasi-confirmed by the member who posted after you, that by always erasing this protocol platform it would keep the player "clean" and faster performing, so to speak; as it is, I don't have the player connected to take advantage of BD Live and I keep that function off anyway...


What would you suggest would be "important" to "keep in there" and not have erased?
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There's really no problem. Persistent storage keeps data from each disc you play which was intended to be saved. This might include resume playback points, downloaded BD-Live junk, or any of a plethora of stuff the JAVA programmer thought was a good idea. If you're done playing a BD and don't expect to be using it again soon, there's no reason not to erase. Much of what gets stored there is erased by the JAVA programming when you stop playback of the disc, by design. If a disc is ejected without properly stopping playback, or if the player crashes for some reason, or power is interrupted, etc., stuff can be left behind that wasn't meant to be saved. Erasing storage is a fix for that scenario when the stuff left behind causes problems. Sometimes discs from the same studio might have similar programming being saved, which may or may not cause issues. Bottom line is that you can erase it as often as you like and NEVER cause an issue other than losing resume points or similar data.

Thank you VERY much, sir, for confirming this for me and explaining it.
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