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post #721 of 39360 Old 03-01-2009, 06:31 AM
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Understood. I suspect all 12 "new" invitations were sent after the first deadline. What I found interesting was the nearly 25% dropout rate. If that projects to the next 12 invites there could be 3 more invites sent out early this coming week.

Congrats to all the winners and thanks for the comments thus far.
After reading the FAQ (terrific job Bill McClain) and the user manual and seeing initial comments I'm convinced this will be my player of choice.

I suspect two main reasons for this.
1. people got tired of waiting and bought something else
2. it just simply is not a good time to drop 500 bones.

I've got to be honest, I fit under both. I bought a Sharp player in Dec. and decided I wasn't going to get the Oppo when it first came out, but that was also when I thought the Oppo was going to cost $600 and come out 2 months ago. Next month or even the month after would be better for me, but I figured if I said no now I probably would be in the running if/when a 2nd run went and I likely could be stuck without one for several months and then paying more.
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Does anyone know how/if subtitles in mkv files are handled? Any subtitles format restrictions?

I've only tested the few shown in this table: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post15926815

Only one file has subtitles and all tracks work. I'm not sure about the format; the test disc documentation doesn't specify.

One mkv file did not play; it has internal chapters, which apparently are not supported yet.

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I will be replacing my 970HD with a BDP-83. I have been more than happy with the 970HD in general and look forward to this new player. It was through this player that I discovered the incredible world of SACD.
The only complaint I have with the 970HD is the handshake issue truncating the audio when listening to redbook CDs (connected to the AVP via SP/DIF). (My prepro is a Nuforce AVP17). What I've done is to listen to all CDs via the analog interface. Has Oppo corrected this problem with the BPD-83?

It was asked in an earlier posting if someone will post the optimal configuration of the BPD-83 for their PRE-PRO. I would like to know if someone will do the same for the Nuforce AVP17.

Many thanks!
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does it read files contnair MKV with codec AVC ???

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Does Oppo 83 read 1080i50 Blu-rays? If so, how will this be outputted in various modes? 1080p25, 1080i50, 1080p24 or 1080p60?

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does it read files contnair MKV with codec AVC ???

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I don't think it does, but I don't have an example on my test disc. All the AVC samples are in containers not supported yet.

We are hoping for additional container and codec support in future firmware, but nothing has been promised.

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Hearing of support for APE/FLAC files would be music for my ears!
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Does Oppo 83 read 1080i50 Blu-rays? If so, how will this be outputted in various modes? 1080p25, 1080i50, 1080p24 or 1080p60?

That would be on an imported, all-region title from video-based sources, right? I don't recall if anyone has tested that.

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I'll be using my BDP983 with a Peachtree Audio NOVA ( to be released inn 2-3 weeks) and an InFocus 480p projector. Eventually, i'll get a new receiver with HDMI and either a 24hz/1080p TV or projector, but for now, this is it. So, I'd still like to see if a Blu Ray title looks better than DVD, even though I have to down rez for Blu Ray. This way, I can begin collecting Blu Ray discs.

What DVD/Blu Ray settings are recommended? Since I'll be using stereo for now, I'll also have to choose between digital coax out for audio or two channels of analogue outs. Any suggestions will be appreciated.

Couldn't find any list at OPPO's website.
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That would be on an imported, all-region title from video-based sources, right? I don't recall if anyone has tested that.

-Bill

No, unfortunately, there are bunch of Blu-rays released in Europe that are films that are incorrectly encoded as 1080i50 with the same 4% speedup as PAL DVDs. Many are region free and can be played on US Blu-ray players that support 1080i50 playback (Samsung, LG, and Pioneer), but cannot be played back on others (Sony, Panasonic). You get the sound, but no pictures on those players (except when you fast forward or reverse).

1080i50 encoded films on Blu-ray

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Oppo website has the list of names of the EAP chosen and will post their answers as to whether the EAP should be expanded.

"No" voters ... We know where you live.
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I'll be using my BDP983 with a Peachtree Audio NOVA ( to be released inn 2-3 weeks) and an InFocus 480p projector. Eventually, i'll get a new receiver with HDMI and either a 24hz/1080p TV or projector, but for now, this is it. So, I'd still like to see if a Blu Ray title looks better than DVD, even though I have to down rez for Blu Ray. This way, I can begin collecting Blu Ray discs.

What DVD/Blu Ray settings are recommended? Since I'll be using stereo for now, I'll also have to choose between digital coax out for audio or two channels of analogue outs. Any suggestions will be appreciated.

Couldn't find any list at OPPO's website.

The online manual has recommended settings.

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I spent quite a bit of time A/B comparing the PS3, BD35, and BDP-83. At 1080p/24, they are extraordinarily close. However, on my 60" display from about eight feet back, I would say the BDP-83 and BD35 have a very slight edge over the PS3.

What's nice about the BDP-83 is with Source Direct you can get pure, unaltered 1080p/24 from a Blu-ray movie without any tweaking, processing, enhancements, etc. There are some Blu-ray players on the market - even in default/normal mode - which are doing 'something' extra to the image. For purists, this is usually a big no-no. On the other hand, if for some reason you want some extra tweaking, the BDP-83 allows many options.

As far as SD DVD performance, the BDP-83 is better, hands down. It produces the best SD DVD image I've ever seen on my display. In addition, it's ability to properly scale a non-anamorphic DVD is phenomenal. Another cool feature is the ability to underscan an image. If you own a CRT or RPTV, your set probably has some overscan. My SXRD has almost 3%. Using the underscan feature, I can display/scale a DVD (or BD) with virtually no overscan and get the entire image. This also helps with DVD PQ as MPEG-2 compression artifacts become less obvious since with underscan you're in essence pulling back from the image slightly. (You may not want to do this with Blu-ray on a digital display since you'd be losing the 1:1 pixel mapping and 1080p single pixel line resolution as is the case with my set, however, BD still looks fantastic with this mode if for some reason you still choose to do it.)

once again, kudos for your post... that's a real-world use of scaling I had not considered, and demostrates nicely the capabilities of the player.

During the week I "rented" a Panny 35 from BB, I found the picture compared to the PS3 for BD to be "different", not always better... Once changing the setting from normal to custom the differences became slighter. Curious if even on source direct you find it looking more similar to the 35 or not, and how you've setup your 35.

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No, unfortunately, there are bunch of Blu-rays released in Europe that are films that are incorrectly encoded as 1080i50 with the same 4% speedup as PAL DVDs. Many are region free and can be played on US Blu-ray players that support 1080i50 playback (Samsung, LG, and Pioneer), but cannot be played back on others (Sony, Panasonic). You get the sound, but no pictures on those players (except when you fast forward or reverse).

1080i50 encoded films on Blu-ray

Let me ask the other beta testers and report back. The player certainly accepts 25fps for PAL DVD and media files, but I just don't recall if anyone has tested one of these Blu-rays.

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No, unfortunately, there are bunch of Blu-rays released in Europe that are films that are incorrectly encoded as 1080i50 with the same 4% speedup as PAL DVDs. Many are region free and can be played on US Blu-ray players that support 1080i50 playback (Samsung, LG, and Pioneer), but cannot be played back on others (Sony, Panasonic). You get the sound, but no pictures on those players (except when you fast forward or reverse).

1080i50 encoded films on Blu-ray

let me just say if anyone imports "All the Boys Love Mandy Lane" you should be shot...


terrible, terrible film...

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I'll be using my BDP983 with a Peachtree Audio NOVA ( to be released inn 2-3 weeks) and an InFocus 480p projector. Eventually, i'll get a new receiver with HDMI and either a 24hz/1080p TV or projector, but for now, this is it. So, I'd still like to see if a Blu Ray title looks better than DVD, even though I have to down rez for Blu Ray. This way, I can begin collecting Blu Ray discs.

What DVD/Blu Ray settings are recommended? Since I'll be using stereo for now, I'll also have to choose between digital coax out for audio or two channels of analogue outs. Any suggestions will be appreciated.

Couldn't find any list at OPPO's website.

a word of advice - recognize what differences you're capable of noticing of a (video) setup of that type... If you are going to see them at all, they'll be subtle to the extreme - some better resolving of background imagery, for example, due to a cleaner source (higher res) being pumped down to your PJ. I'd certainly not judge the format in general, but given that the Oppo seems to have a fairly fine 2ch section, you'll at least hear some pleasant audio from BD sources (let alone SACD), and will be motivated to either get a decent 1080 set or a more contemporary projector.

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what is that "one" little feature?

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what about sd dvd upconversion compared to ps3?

The Oppo upconverts the SD much better. What I didn't compare it to was my XA2.
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There is a FAQ section devoted to Region Coding.

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what about sd dvd upconversion compared to ps3?

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What is your set up?

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I suspect two main reasons for this.
1. people got tired of waiting and bought something else
2. it just simply is not a good time to drop 500 bones.

Unless you cannot survive a few extra seconds loading a disc, its very difficult to justify the Oppo83 at $500 when you can get the Pioneer 51FD for under $300 @ Amazon which has similar A/V quality over HDMI for BD/DVD, and probably better analog quality for CDs.

Vote with your wallet. Don't buy Cinavia-infected Blu-ray Discs! Why pay a premium for pseudo-lossless audio damaged by an intrusive watermark in the audible spectrum?
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Unless you cannot survive a few extra seconds loading a disc, its very difficult to justify the Oppo83 at $500 when you can get the Pioneer 51FD for under $300 @ Amazon which has similar A/V quality over HDMI for BD/DVD, and probably better analog quality for CDs.

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Many (most?) of us are into hi-res audio (SACD and/or DVD-Audio), which the Pioneer BDP-51FD doesn't seem to support, so your idea of "probably better analog quality" simply doesn't relate at all. Some of us are also very appreciative of Oppo's support and customer service compared to Pioneer's lack thereof.

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Pioneer's botched 05/51 rollout has scared me away from their players for the time being. (and I've been a Pioneer fan dating back to the early 70's.) I'm not too thrilled w/ Denon at the moment either. So hopefully OPPO will be a breath of fresh air (at least customer service wise).
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Some of us are also very appreciative of Oppo's support and customer service compared to Pioneer's lack thereof.

That is one thing I did not think about, the support at Oppo is one of the best.
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Unless you cannot survive a few extra seconds loading a disc, its very difficult to justify the Oppo83 at $500 when you can get the Pioneer 51FD for under $300 @ Amazon which has similar A/V quality over HDMI for BD/DVD, and probably better analog quality for CDs.

ruined, are you in the eap? how does sd upconversion compare to 51fd/05fd?
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How can one tell if and when all the first 50 are accounted for?

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I will be replacing my 970HD with a BDP-83. I have been more than happy with the 970HD in general and look forward to this new player. It was through this player that I discovered the incredible world of SACD.
The only complaint I have with the 970HD is the handshake issue truncating the audio when listening to redbook CDs (connected to the AVP via SP/DIF). (My prepro is a Nuforce AVP17). What I've done is to listen to all CDs via the analog interface. Has Oppo corrected this problem with the BPD-83?

It was asked in an earlier posting if someone will post the optimal configuration of the BPD-83 for their PRE-PRO. I would like to know if someone will do the same for the Nuforce AVP17.

Many thanks!

I have an Avp-17 as well an plan on getting the BDP83 as soon as its released to the rest of us. I think you'll first want to determine if the Oppo's discrete DACs are better than Nuforces DACS. IF the Oppo's DAC are prefered you'll run analog to the Avp-17; If the Nuforces DACs are prefered then you'll run optical or S/Pdif to the Nuforce. Also concerning the trunication make sure to have your autoplay feature on the Oppo off, that just might help. I dont have any of the trunication with my current player (983).


On a side note, a few people with the AVp-17 were complaining about it cutting the first few seconds of songs off (i dont have that problem) but heres the link http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/i...?topic=54146.0

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Exactly. Doesn't make sense. Guess I'll have to get out my trusty black electricians tape to cover the bright and shiny LED.

A little dab of BluTak over a LED has been my best remedy. I've never had any problem with it leaving behind any residue when removed.

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My last experience with a Pioneer player was that you could not update firmware via a CD/DVD or USB download. It required taking it to an authorized service center, and paying them for the update. Does this still exist? If so, consider that into the pricing equation also.
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