Originally Posted by martmann
The paragraph I have emboldened is a pretty big pile of BS. I have owned many 'mainstream' (read cheap) CD players that can cue in pause mode. I have never seen or heard of any CD Player, no matter how cheap, that could not do this, in fact I have a Phillips DVD player I bought (last year) for $19 that does this no problem.
Also I don't play CDs on my Oppo, I play SACDs, and I was under the impression that this was supposed to be a quality SACD player (and it is very good, except for this one simple (yup, I said simple) issue).
THERE IS NO BUFFERING NEEDED, if you can 'GOTO' a track and have it play from the beginning (which I can do), you simply need to goto that track and pause at the beginning (what needs to go to a buffer?), but this can't be done on this player.
All-in-all, I am still happy with this player, don't confuse my calling BS on this issue, with complete dissatisfaction with the product. If this were any other player, I wouldn't even expect a BS answer from the mfr.
This is a basic function that only Oppo feels is unnecessary, in my opinion they are wrong.
I am assuming that the truncation at the beginning of an SACD has it's root cause in the HDCP handshake timing, as it only truncates at the start of the disc, if I let the first track play a bit, then hit PREV, it starts from the first note, every time. I am actually OK with this, believe it or not, but it would be nice if it didn't happen, maybe if Oppo did some buffering hahahahahaha.
It seems Oppo may be worried that implementing CD/SACD/DVDAudio track cueing with Pause enabled might confuse "lower common denominator" customers. (see below)
I'm not sure why because I swear that every audio disc player I have ever seen has had this basic functionality, not just high-end "audiophile" players.
You're correct martmann, we are not talking about buffer memory here, just basic Pause functionality.
To be clear, I love my 83 and wouldn't trade it for anything, but I do use it about 50% for CD/SACD/DVDAudio playback and really do miss being able to cue up a track. Adding this may also help with the HDCP issue where the first second is muted. Not sure exactly why that happens though, so maybe not.
Here's the (prompt!) reply I got from Oppo this morning:
"There is no way to queue a track and have the player remain in a paused state. This has been requested on multiple occasions but never implemented into the firmware of the player. Although our players have been selling to the high-end audiophile, most of our sales is still standard, lower common denominator customers. For this reason, many of the functionality audiophiles are used to are not a part of the design of the BDP-83/SE.
We have not excluded this feature request from ever being implemented in a firmware release, but at this time we do not have any plans on allowing for track queuing without the immediate playback of the track."
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Mountain View, CA 94043Service@oppodigital.com