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How does the Oppo BDP-83 handle Netflix blu-ray movie rentals?

With rented Blu-ray media no problems.
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How does the Oppo BDP-83 handle Netflix blu-ray movie rentals?

See the FAQ: How well does the player handle scratched and dirty Blu-ray discs?

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Apparently very well. The other beta testers report taking no special care in cleaning their rental discs and have had no troubles.

As of Febrary 26, 2009 I have played 33 Netflix rentals and 17 video store rentals, all Blu-ray, and had no disc damage or smudge/dirt issues except for one disc which was visibly bent and would not load.

-Bill
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Beta testers don't wink. You wouldn't want to play against us in a poker game either...


--Bob

Thanks Bob for the coded message! Using my Ovaltine decoder ring, here is what Bob actually said:

"You guys are in for a treat! DVD-A is done, and the next EAP will be for all registered EAP members."

Ya gotta love the beta testers!
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The 17-18 "key" features are darn nice (including the bag)- but most important to me is day-after-day reliability. Disc "freezes" (which sometimes require the need to unplug the player to re-boot) are beyond embarrassing when you have guests over for a movie. Hopefully the BDP-83 will be superb in this area.

It is! Certainly in comparison to my Pioneer Elite HD-1.

It is very rare to get disc freezes with the Oppo.
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Objection, your honor. No foundation. Speculation on the part of the witness.

You forgot to move to strike the statement from the record!
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Originally Posted by John Ballentine View Post

The 17-18 "key" features are darn nice (including the bag)- but most important to me is day-after-day reliability. Disc "freezes" (which sometimes require the need to unplug the player to re-boot) are beyond embarrassing when you have guests over for a movie. Hopefully the BDP-83 will be superb in this area.

I hear this. 10-20% of BR disks (Netflix, mostly) in my Samsung 5000 seize up. Some few have been unrecoverable, others I can eventually skip the offending chapter(s). (I clean every disk.) I don't dare have company over for a movie. I'm buying the Oppo in hopes of restoring reliability without sacrificing the good DVD upscaling.

I thought I was being so clever with the dual-mode Samsung (BR and HD), then two weeks after I got it HD was dead along with Samsung support. I've given up fighting with it.

I keep putting the DVD-only Netflix selections to the top of my queue. The remaining list is getting pretty BR-heavy, so I need this player soon!
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has anyone done any reviewing of the 83 all i see is its features and no comparisons. did i miss something? I want to know how it looks on the screen SD and HD not all this other stuff. 500 dollars is allot of money for me to put out but i will do it if it is worth while.
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has anyone done any reviewing of the 83 all i see is its features and no comparisons. did i miss something? I want to know how it looks on the screen SD and HD not all this other stuff. 500 dollars is allot of money for me to put out but i will do it if it is worth while.

From what others have said; You won't find a better player to upscale standard DVD and it's as good or better then other blu-ray players.
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

I used the Oppo extensively with my D2 before I replaced the D2 with the new D2v. The Oppo works fine doing the decoding and sending 5.1 HDMI LPCM to the D2.

The D2v has some new product bugs of its own that are being worked out. But so far I've found no differences between decoding in the Oppo (to 7.1 HDMI LPCM) and decoding in the D2v except for things which are obviously bugs being worked on.

Except when playing around or testing for bugs, I fully intend to use my Oppo with my D2v by having the Oppo do the decoding. The one thing is the Oppo limit of 96KHz for DTS-HD MA decoding. If I ever find a 192KHz 7.1 DTS-HD MA track I'll need to bitstream that to the D2v for decoding in the D2v.
--Bob

is there a reson why you will decode in the player?
i do not now the processor you are using(from denmark,limited product)but it looks high end like lexicon.i think its intresting that you dont her any difference regards decoding.then il go for the Oppo,my processor supports lpcm but no decoding
hope it makes sence
regards peter
denmark
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has anyone done any reviewing of the 83 all i see is its features and no comparisons. did i miss something? I want to know how it looks on the screen SD and HD not all this other stuff. 500 dollars is allot of money for me to put out but i will do it if it is worth while.

For DVD it looks like the 983H for which plenty of reviews are available. See the first post in the 983H thread.

For Blu-ray at 1080p it looks like other Blu-ray players. (That's the consensus view; there is a minority opinion that it is better, see: http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...ml#post3519331).

-Bill
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sincerly, once again, thank you for the time... at least I wasn't crazy about the 980 disparity, but it should certainly be noted for =anyone= doing DSD to PCM comparisons (Kal, for example, pointed out in the 980 review the superiority of PCM, but never indicated that it was a 10db difference!)

The 3db you're noting below could certainly have someone be swayed that one was better-er than the other simply due to a loudness factor.

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SPL C Weight, Fast at 70dB using Telerec 1812 Overture Track 8 (Left Channel White Noise) going into a Yamaha RX-V3800 with HDMI at 1080p/60Hz resolution:

OPPO DV-980H
DSD: -10.5
PCM: -1.5

Pioneer DV-48AV
DSD: -10.5
PCM: -10.5

OPPO BDP-83
DSD: -10.5
PCM: -7.0


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is there a reson why you will decode in the player?
i do not now the processor you are using(from denmark,limited product)but it looks high end like lexicon.i think its intresting that you dont her any difference regards decoding.then il go for the Oppo,my processor supports lpcm but no decoding
hope it makes sence
regards peter
denmark

Sure. Decoding in the player makes it easier to take advantage of the secondary audio mixing features in Blu-Ray (something that doesn't exist in the SD-DVD world).

You need a receiver that correctly handles HDMI LPCM anyway or you won't be able to listen to raw (uncompressed) LPCM Blu-Ray tracks properly. And given that, you might as well let the player do the decoding of the lossless compressed formats to HDMI LPCM as well.

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You can find more info on the Anthem pre-pros in this massive "tweaking" thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=678260

Read the first post to begin, and then start reading backwards from the end.
--Bob
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3 dozen BR- some netflix-some from another sources.
No real issues.....



Quote:
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How does the Oppo BDP-83 handle Netflix blu-ray movie rentals?


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Can anyone comment on DVD-A availability? Could it be out with the next batch of EAP? I know I have a bunch of DVD-A disks I'd like to throw at it...
Chris

Someone make a note of this: Chris has requested that the next EAP batch of players be held up till this feature is ready.
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Sure. Decoding in the player makes it easier to take advantage of the secondary audio mixing features in Blu-Ray (something that doesn't exist in the SD-DVD world).

You need a receiver that correctly handles HDMI LPCM anyway or you won't be able to listen to raw (uncompressed) LPCM Blu-Ray tracks properly. And given that, you might as well let the player do the decoding of the lossless compressed formats to HDMI LPCM as well.

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--Bob

I've noticed that since switching the player to HDMI-LPCM, I have been hearing a lot of the annoying menu button sounds. I expect this is a "benefit" too.

What nitwit decided that button sounds was a good idea? Hmmmm? Prolly the same one that chose BD-JAVA programming.
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Someone make a note of this: Chris has requested that the next EAP batch of players be held up till this feature is ready.

Get the rope
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has anyone done any reviewing of the 83 all i see is its features and no comparisons. did i miss something? I want to know how it looks on the screen SD and HD not all this other stuff. 500 dollars is allot of money for me to put out but i will do it if it is worth while.

I disagree that all of the talk has been about features. There's been a lot of discussion comparing Blu-ray players' performance. Much of that has been focused more on stability and load times, certainly, but that is because differences in image quality should be minimal unless one of the players being compared is doing something wrong. There's also been a lot of talk about the 83's DVD performance, although much of it is based on references to the 983H since the two share so much in common for DVD playback. My review specifically references my 983H review for that specific reason.
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Someone make a note of this: Chris has requested that the next EAP batch of players be held up till this feature is ready.

Whoah! You're killin' me man....
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The 3db you're noting below could certainly have someone be swayed that one was better-er than the other simply due to a loudness factor.

Any variance within 2 to 3dB can be considered negligible. If it is 5dB or higher, then there is major discrepancies which can pollute your overall interpretation of the quality of the signal.
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I've noticed that since switching the player to HDMI-LPCM, I have been hearing a lot of the annoying menu button sounds. I expect this is a "benefit" too.

What nitwit decided that button sounds was a good idea? Hmmmm? Prolly the same one that chose BD-JAVA programming.

Grump!


--Bob
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Does anyone know why this player is called the "BDP-83"?

I assume the BDP is for Blu-ray Disk Player, but why 83?
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Pedigree is from the DV-983H. Therefore, BDP-83.
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Pedigree is from the DV-983H. Therefore, BDP-83.

Thanks!
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so the inbox check begins right? Didn't they send the last emails around 7:30 PM CT?
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Any variance within 2 to 3dB can be considered negligible. If it is 5dB or higher, then there is major discrepancies which can pollute your overall interpretation of the quality of the signal.

Yeah but every 3dB also requires a doubling of wattage, unless I'm mistaken.
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so the inbox check begins right? Didn't they send the last emails around 7:30 PM CT?


Who here in this thread has hit the send/receive button in their email the most times today?

Who here has had this Oppo thread on their computer monitor all day, and then just periodically refresh the page?



I know more than 10 of you guys have done this.
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Who here in this thread has hit the send/receive button in their email the most times today?

Who here has had this Oppo thread on their computer monitor all day, and then just periodically refresh the page?



I know more than 10 of you guys have done this.

Guilty, and hoping to be a winner this time!
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some days I do, I really, really, really want to be on the next wagon :>
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If I were to be one of the next lucky 100 and received an email this morning like I hoped, I was going to purchase the player and have them overnight it to me so I would have it for the weekend. No such luck!
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