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UPDATED 11/26/2014 - Official 60-1110 Firmware Released
UPDATED 03/07/2012 - Official 59-0117 Firmware Released
UPDATED 01/23/2012 - Beta 59-0117B Firmware Released
UPDATED 12/21/2011 - Official 58-1215 Firmware Released
UPDATED 11/08/2011 - Beta 57-1026B Firmware Released
UPDATED 03/17/2011 - Official 55-0226 Firmware Released
UPDATED 03/03/2011 - Beta 55-0226B Firmware Released
UPDATED 02/01/2011 - Beta 54-0130B Firmware Released
UPDATED 09/27/2010 - So Long, And Thanks For All the Fish: BDP-83 No Longer Manufactured
UPDATED 08/24/2010 - Beta 52-0816B Firmware Released
UPDATED 05/05/2010 - Official 50-0424 Firmware Released
UPDATED 03/31/2010 - Kalman Rubinson (Stereophile) Review Posted
UPDATED 03/29/2010 - BDP-83 50-0323B Firmware Released
UPDATED 02/17/2010 - Chris Martens (The Perfect Vision) Review Posted (BDP-83SE)
UPDATED 02/13/2010 - Shane Buettner (Home Theater Magazine) Review Posted (BDP-83SE)
UPDATED 02/09/2010 - Chris Martens (The PerfectVision) Review Posted
UPDATED 02/08/2010 - Brian Kahn (HomeTheaterReview.com) Review Posted (BDP-83SE)
UPDATED 01/05/2010 - Official 48-1224 Firmware Released
UPDATED 12/22/2009 - Beta 48-1218B Firmware Released
UPDATED 12/11/2009 - Jim Bray (Technofile) Review Posted
UPDATED 12/07/2009 - Home Theater Review Best of 2009 Awarded
UPDATED 12/05/2009 - John Sunier (Audiofile Audition) Review Posted
UPDATED 10/18/2009 - Danny Philips (TrustedReviews.com) Review Posted
UPDATED 10/16/2009 - Roger Kanno (Home Theater Sound) Review Posted
UPDATED 10/04/2009 - David Mackenzie (AVForums.com) Review Posted
UPDATED 09/30/2009 - Official 40-0925 Firmware Released
UPdATED 09/30/2009 - Andrew Everard (What Hi-Fi?)Review Posted
UPDATED 09/30/2009 - Daniel Philips (techradar.com) Review Posted
UPDATED 09/23/2009 - BuyBlurayPlayers.com Review Posted
UPDATED 09/21/2009 - Michael Wong (AudioEnz) Review Posted
UPDATED 09/21/2009 - Tone Audio Review [Pg 147] Posted
UPDATED 09/09/2009 - Beta 38-0905 Firmware Released
UPDATED 09/04/2009 - Steve Guttenberg (C/NET The Audiophiliac Blog) Posted
UPDATED 09/02/2009 - Matthew Moskovciak (C/NET) Review Posted
UPDATED 09/01/2009 - Kevin Nakano (LA Audio File) Review Posted
UPDATED 08/24/2009 - Tom Jung (Everything Audio Network) Review Posted
UPDATED 08/23/2009 - Peter Putman (HDTV Expert) Review Posted
UPDATED 08/10/2009 - HomeTheaterReview.com Review Posted
UPDATED 08/07/2009 - Josh Zyber (High-Def Digest) Review Posted
UPDATED 08/05/2009 - Experimental 35-0805 Firmware Released
UPDATED 08/03/2009 - Mike Rollet (Projector Reviews) Posted
UPDATED 07/31/2009 - Braden Russell and Ara Derderian Podcast Posted
UPDATED 07/30/2009 - Chris Martens (Playback) Review Posted
UPDATED 07/25/2009 - Stephen Krasowski (E-Gear) Review Posted
UPDATED 07/24/2009 - Beta 34-0722 Firmware Released
UPDATED 07/09/2009 - David Vaughn (Ultimate AV) Review Posted
UPDATED 07/08/2009 - Kris Deering (Home Theater Magazine) Review Posted


Video Specifications
  • Analog Video: Composite, Component Video (Y/Pb/Pr, 480i/480p, 720p/1080i available for non-restricted content; up to 1080i Blu-ray)
  • Digital Video: HDMI with HDCP (NTSC: 480i/480p/720p/1080i/1080p/1080p24, PAL 576i/576p/720p/1080i/1080p/1080p24)
  • ABT2010 de-interlacing and scaling solution (HDMI only)
  • 30 and 36bit Deep Color support

Audio Specifications
  • Analog Audio: 7.1ch or 5.1ch, Dedicated Stereo.
  • D/AC: Two-channel Cirrus CS4398 DAC for Discrete Stereo; Eight-channel CS4382A DAC for Multi-Channel Analog.
  • Digital Audio: Coaxial, Optical
  • HDMI Audio: Stereo to 7.1ch.
  • Bit stream and internal decoding of Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, DTS, DTS-HD High Resolution Audio, and DTS-HD Master Audio for HDMI and Analog.
  • SACD DSD bit stream over HDMI or straight to analog; SACD DSD to PCM conversion over HDMI and analog.

Media Compatibility
  • Disc Types: BD-Video, DVD-Video, AVCHD, DVD-Audio, SACD, CD, HDCD, Kodak Picture CD, CD-R/RW, DVD±R/RW, DVD±R DL, BD-R/RE
    (Compatibility with user-encoded contents or user-created discs is on a best effort basis with no guarantee due to the variation of media, software and techniques used.)
  • BD Profile: BD-ROM version 2 Profile 2 (also compatible with Profile 1 version 1.0 and 1.1). 1GB of Internal Storage; External Storage expandable through USB.
  • Dual USB Ports (One in back; one front) for video, audio, picture, and BD-Live expandability.

Unique or Optimized Features
  • PS3 caliber load speeds for BD-Java enabled discs.
  • Resolution, Picture and Audio adjustments can be performed on the fly.
  • Discrete Output Resolution: You can force the player to always output a 480i/p, 720p, 1080i and 1080p 50/60Hz, and 1080p/24Hz (DVD-Video and Blu-ray) video signal.
  • Source Direct: This allows the player to intelligently and automatically change the video output resolution of the player based off of the content source. For example, SD DVD will playback at 480i, Blu-ray will play back at 1080p/24Hz, and DVD-Audio and SACD will playback at 1080i (to ensure maximum audio bandwidth is available). This is ideal for people who use external scalers or do not want the BDP-83 to do any video de-interlacing and scaling.
  • Video Demo Mode: Splits the screen vertically with one half showing the original source image, while the other half shows the results of adjustment to the Edge Enhancement, Detail Enhancement and Noise Reduction controls.
  • Up to 1920x1080 native MPEG-2, AVCHD, MKV and DivX/XviD video support; JPEG and PNG picture support.
  • Fully back-lit remote control
  • Anamorphic lens compatible with constant height Zoom. Other Zoom modes identical to DV-983H
  • Think the BDP-83 is decoding and/or transporting the Lossy Core and not the ideal High Resolution Dolby Digital TrueHD or DTS-HD Master audio streams? Now you can verify this! When you press the "INFO" button on the remote control and look at the icon in the lower left hand corner of your television, if the symbol is a jagged waveform icon, then the player is currently using the Lossy Core for audio decoding and/or transportation. When the player is decoding and/or transporting the High Resolution audio stream the icon should appear as three overlapping circles

General Specifications
  • Power Supply: Power Supply: ~ 100V – 240V, 50/60Hz AC
  • Power Consumption: 35W (0.5W Standby)
  • Dimensions: 430mm x 336mm x 77mm, 16⅞ x 13¼ x 3 inches
  • Mass: 5.1kg / 11.2 lbs
  • Region Enforcement: DVD Region 1 (non-adjustable) and Blu-ray Region A (non-adjustable) Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)Spoiler
    Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)The BDP-83 will support DVD Region 1 and Blu-ray Region A only. The Blu-ray Disc Association does not allow OPPO to support any region unlocking capabilities, even for DVD-Video playback.

    As Blu-ray is a relatively new platform, OPPO wants to make sure they can sell Blu-ray players for many more years to come. They do not want to implement or excise any content control which could jeopardize their standing with the Blu-ray Disc Association.

    These restrictions are non-negotiable. Do not discuss them in the forums.



OPPO BDP-83 User's Manual
Default Settings Checklist
Spears & Munsil High Definition Benchmark User's Guide

REVIEWS
gonk's BDP-83 Review
Gary Murrell (Home Theater Forum)
Bill Graw (Enjoy The Music)
Robert Silva (About.com)
John Sunier (Audiophile Audition)
Thomas Spurlin (Audio|Video Revolution)
Clint DeBoer (Audioholics)
clayswartz@comca (OPPO Versus Thread)
Adrian Wittenberg (Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity)
Wes Marshall (SoundStageAV) (Reviewer's Choice)
Kris Deering (Home Theater Magazine) (Top Pick) (Product of the Year)
David Vaughn (Ultimate AV)
Stephen Krasowski (E-Gear)
Chris Martens (Playback) (Playback Recommended 2009)
Braden Russell and Ara Derderian Podcast
Mike Rollet (Projector Reviews) (ProjectorsReview.com Special Interest Award)
Josh Zyber (High-Def Digest)
HomeTheaterReview.com
Peter Putman (HDTV Expert)
Tom Jung (Everything Audio Network)
Kevin Nakano (LA Audio File)
Matthew Moskovciak (C/NET) - 4.5/5
Steve Guttenberg (C/NET The Audiophiliac Blog)
Tone Audio[Pg 147]
Michael Wong (AudioEnz)
BuyBlurayPlayers.com
Daniel Philips (techradar.com)
Andrew Everard (What Hi-Fi?)
David Mackenzie (AVForums.com) (Highly Recommended)
Roger Kanno (Home Theater Sound)
Danny Philips (TrustedReviews.com)
John Sunier (Audiofile Audition)
Home Theater Review Best of 2009 Awarded
Jim Bray (Technofile)
Brian Kahn (HomeTheaterReview.com) (BDP-83SE)
Chris Martens (The PerfectVision)
Shane Buettner (Home Theater Magazine) (BDP-83SE)
Chris Martens (The Perfect Vision) (BDP-83SE)
Kalman Rubinson (Stereophile)


FIRMWARE RELEASES

Release date: May 4, 2009.
Category: First Firmware Release
Main Version: BDP83-22-0430
Loader Version: BE23F3 857523F3
Sub Version: MCU83-22-0410

Release date: June 26, 2009
Category: Latest Official Release
Main Version: BDP83-31-0620
Loader Version: BE2403 85752403
Sub Version: MCU83-23-0513
Release Notes:

The major changes included in this version are:

1. Further improvement to DVD-Audio disc compatibility and navigation.
2. Fix for the issue of losing audio at certain DVD-Audio track/chapter transitions, such as "The Beatles – Love".
3. Additional on-screen audio information display for DVD-Audio: sample rate in addition to channels and format.
4. Support for viewing static pictures on DVD-Audio discs using the PAGE UP and PAGE DOWN remote control buttons.
5. Compatibility improvement for user-encoded DVD-Audio discs.
6. A two-tiered rotation speed control for DVD media: normal speed for DVD-Video/DVD-Audio and increased speed for AVCHD on DVD media. This change is to support the occasional peaks of bit rate required by the AVCHD programs.
7. Improved detection of 4:3 aspect ratio bonus material on Blu-ray Discs.
8. DVD subtitle quality improvement (sync subtitle to frame). Combing of film-based DVD subtitle should be eliminated.
9. Improved remote control response for SACD in fast forwarding or fast rewinding mode.
10. Support for bitstream output of HDCD
11. Adjustment to the sensitivity of the front panel EJECT and POWER buttons.
12. Improvement for handling chapter breaks on DVD. This revision passes the Microsoft WHQL DVD 3:2 Chapter PF False test.
13. Improvement for DVD navigation.
14. Fix for the issue of not able to set a manual IP address when the network cable is connected and there is no DHCP server on the network.
15. Fix for the issue of angle icon appearing when the setup menu option "Angle Mark" is set to off.
16. Fix for the issue of subwoofer trim setting not applied after power cycle.
17. Other general disc compatibility and performance improvements.

Bonuses: Undocumented, no guarantee features and enhancements:

1. Fix for the Rice Krispie "Snap, Crackle, and Pops" of SACD playback.
2. Pressing the YELLOW button during DVD-Video to access the main feature no longer causes subtitles to turn on by default.

Release date: July 24, 2009
Category: Public Beta Release
Main Version: BDP83-34-0722 [Outdated by BDP-35-0805 Firmware]
Loader Version: BE2403 85752403
Sub Version: MCU83-23-0513
Release Notes:

1. Blu-ray Disc compatibility improvement, especially for certain titles such as "12 Rounds" and "The Haunting in Connecticut".
2. Additional "Deep Color" options utilizing dithering. If the display does not support 36-bit deep color, dithering 36-bit to 30-bit or 24-bit may produce an image that is visually smoother than rounding 36-bit to 30- or 24-bit.
3. Improved precision for color space conversion.
4. Improved upconversion for MKV files that have a picture size smaller than 1280x720 with 24fps frame rate.
5. Improvement for DVD navigation.
6. Other general disc compatibility and performance improvements.

Release date: August 5, 2009
Category: Experimental Release
Main Version: BDP83-36-0805
Loader Version: BE2403 85752403
Sub Version: MCU83-23-0513
Release Notes:

1. Blu-ray Disc compatibility improvement, especially for certain titles such as "Dollhouse Season 1", "12 Rounds" and "The Haunting in Connecticut".
2. Additional "Deep Color" options utilizing dithering. If the display does not support 36-bit deep color, dithering 36-bit to 30-bit or 24-bit may produce an image that is visually smoother than rounding 36-bit to 30- or 24-bit.
3. Improved precision for color space conversion.
4. Improved up-conversion for MKV files that have a picture size smaller than 1280x720 with 24fps frame rate.
5. Improvement for DVD navigation.
6. Fix for the issue of not being able to reset factory default settings introduced in the 34-0722 beta firmware.
7. Fix for the PAL DVD picture quality issue introduced in the 34-0722 beta firmware. The issue looks like a de-interlacing error but is caused by the decoder chip, not the de-interlacer.
8. New pop-up user interface for audio and subtitle selection.
9. Improved GOTO function for music file playback. The GOTO function now allows the user to jump to a certain time point within a music file.
10. Other general disc compatibility and performance improvements.

Release date: September 9, 2009
Category: Public Beta Release
Main Version: BDP83-38-0905
Loader Version: BE2600 or BT0300
Sub Version: MCU83-24-0630
Release Notes:

See 40-0925 Firmware Release Notes

Known Issue:
After selecting "Reset Factory Defaults" from the "Device Setup" menu, the player may lose video output and stop responding to remote control. Should this happen, please turn off the player, turn it back on, enter the setup menu, and select "Device Setup" - "Persistent Storage" - "Erase BD-Video Data". This should clear the error condition and allow you to reset factory default settings.
Release date: September 30, 2009
Category: Latest Official Release
Main Version: BDP83-40-0925
Loader Version: BE2600 or BT0300
Sub Version: MCU83-24-0630
Release Notes:

1. Blu-ray Disc compatibility improvement, especially for certain titles such as "X-Men Origins: Wolverine", "Lie to Me", "Dollhouse Season 1", "12 Rounds" and "The Haunting in Connecticut".
2. Additional "Deep Color" options utilizing dithering. If the display does not support 36-bit deep color, dithering 36-bit to 30-bit or 24-bit may produce an image that is visually smoother than rounding 36-bit to 30- or 24-bit.
3. Improved precision for color space conversion.
4. Improved up-conversion for MKV files that have a picture size smaller than 1280x720 with 24fps frame rate.
5. Improvement for DVD-A disc compatibility. The specific titles targeted include "Beck: Sea Change" and DVD-A discs released in Japan by JVC.
6. Improvement for DVD navigation.
7. Improvement for compatibility with Denon receivers that only acquire 2ch DSD signal upon initial playback of a SACD multi-channel disc.
8. Improvement for compatibility with receivers that show "no signal" but play audio when a CD is played using HDMI bitstream output mode.
9. Fix for the issue of subtitle being cut off when playing a PAL DVD.
10. New pop-up user interface for audio and subtitle selection.
11. Improved GOTO function for music file playback. The GOTO function now allows the user to jump to a certain time point within a music file.
12. Other general disc compatibility and performance improvements. The specific titles targeted include the CD "The Saturday Nite Agenda", DVD "IL DIVO - Live at the Greek Theater", Blu-ray "Fired Up" and a few other discs.

Release date: December 22, 2009 [REPLACED BY 48-1224]
Category: Public Beta Version
Main Version: BDP83-48-1218B
Loader Version: BE2650 or BT0350
Sub Version: MCU83-25-0811
Release Notes:

1. Blu-ray Disc compatibility improvement, especially for certain titles such as the European version of "Terminator Salvation", Indican's "The Wonder of It All", and "(500) Days of Summer" from Fox.
2. Subtitle shift feature. During playback, press and hold the "SUBTITLE" button to activate the function and then use up/down arrow buttons to move the subtitle. The shift position is saved in the "Video Setup" - "Display Options" section of the setup menu. This feature is useful for customers with 2.35:1 projection screens.
3. OSD position feature. The OSD (On-Screen Display) can be moved to work together with the subtitle shift feature. There is a new setup menu item in the "Video Setup" - "Display Options" section for this.
4. Auto mode for HDMI Audio format. The new "Auto" mode enables the player to use bitstream audio output for audio formats that are supported by the A/V receiver, and LPCM for formats that cannot be decoded by the A/V receiver.
5. Setup menu changes. Some items are re-grouped into the "Display Options" sub-menu under "Video Setup". Some items are re-ordered in the menu structure to improve the ease of use.
6. Experimental feature - home network streaming. This feature can be accessed from the "My Network" icon in the "Home Menu" screen. It requires a DLNA-capable media server running on your computer. The supported media types are the common set of what the player can decode and what the media server can stream.
7. Experimental Feature - BluTV. This is an interactive television service that will initially feature channels such as casual games, widgets and movie art. To use this feature, the "BD-Live Network Access" item in the "Network Setup" section and the "Secondary Audio" item in the "Audio Format Setup" section of the player's setup menu must be turned on.

Release date: March 29, 2010
Category: Public Beta Version
Main Version: BDP83-50-0323B
Loader Version: BE2690 or BT0390
Sub Version: MCU83-27-0326
Release Notes:

This public beta version works for both the standard BDP-83 and the BDP-83 Special Edition. Comparing to the official release version BDP83-48-1224, the major changes included in this version are:

1. When there is no disc playing, the player shows the OPPO background screen instead of the "Home Menu". The "Home Menu" can be accessed by pressing the "Home" button on the remote control.
2. Improvement to MKV compatibility. Some MKV files do not play or play with severe video artifacts when using previous firmware. This version improves the playback of such files.
3. Some users have reported hearing pops or crackles between SACD tracks. This issue happens to certain discs that have data frames that are not aligned with track boundaries. This version removes such pops or crackles.
4. Other general disc compatibility improvement based on recent and upcoming Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted disc samples.

Release date: May 5, 2010
Category: Latest Official Release
Main Version: BDP83-50-0424
Loader Version: BE2710 or BT0410
Sub Version: MCU83-27-0326
Release Notes:

1. Traditional splash screen. When there is no disc playing, the player shows the OPPO background screen instead of the "Home Menu". The "Home Menu" can be accessed by pressing the "Home" button on the remote control.
2. Improvement to MKV compatibility. Some MKV files do not play or play with severe video artifacts when using previous firmware. This version improves the playback of such files.
3. Fix for the SACD pops/crackles issue. Some users have reported hearing pops or crackles between SACD tracks. This issue happens to certain discs that have data frames that are not aligned with track boundaries. This version removes such pops or crackles.
4. Revision of the RS-232 control protocol. If the player is equipped with the RS-232 wired control option, the new protocol adds three verbose modes to enable command echo back, automatic status update and automatic program counter update. For a complete list of RS-232 protocols please refer to the OPPO BDP-83 RS-232 Control Protocol V2 document.
5. Improved volume control function for the analog audio output. Volume control was previously implemented using the DSP (Digital Signal Processor). This version utilizes the DAC (Digital to Analog Converter) chips to perform volume control. This change brings the following benefits:
* Fix for the subwoofer hum that happens when the player's volume is set to less than 100 while outputting SACD in DSD format over HDMI
* Volume control in DSD mode for SACD. Previously volume control does not work for DSD mode. With this version, all analog audio outputs of the BDP-83SE and the dedicated stereo output of the BDP-83 can apply volume control in DSD mode.
6. Fix for a compatibility issue with Sherwood Newcastle R774 A/V receiver. The issue was no audio signal over HDMI when playing a CD.
7. Other general disc compatibility improvement based on recent and upcoming Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted disc samples.
8. Minor changes to BD-Live and BD-Java behavior. Erasing the persistent storage from the setup menu now erases both downloaded BD-Live contents and Java-based bookmarks. BD-Live access is set to off after resetting factory default settings. If you prefer to have BD-Live access, please turn it on from the setup menu.

Release date: August 24, 2010
Category: Public Beta Version
Main Version: BDP83-52-0816B
Loader Version: BE2731 or BT0431
Sub Version: MCU83-27-0326
Release Notes:

1. A small number of Blu-ray discs with Dolby TrueHD audio exhibit a momentary audio drop-out issue if the player is connected to an A/V receiver via HDMI and bitstream is selected as the HDMI Audio format. This version fixes the issue.
2. Certain SACD discs with many short tracks or with a long track following several short tracks can cause the player to freeze during playback. This version fixes the issue.
3. The previous firmware version displays the time counter slightly too fast when playing SACD. This version fixes the issue.
4. Support for LPCM audio streaming over home network is restored. The previous firmware did not carry this feature over from older versions. Please note that home network streaming is an experimental feature. You will need a computer running UPnP or DLNA streaming server software that can support transcoding to LPCM in order to use this feature.
5. Fix for the issue of incorrect video size when playing some Blu-ray discs, such as “Patton”.
6. Other general disc and media file compatibility improvement based on recent and upcoming Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted samples.

Known Bug:
1. SACD snaps, crackles, and pops between audio tracks are re-introduced into the firmware. There is no solution other than reverting to the previous 50-0424 Firmware.
2. Incorrect Aspect Ratio for external media. If the "Primary Output" is set to HDMI and the Aspect Ratio is set to "16:9 Wide/Auto", then the player will pillarbox all external media.
a. The solution is to either set Primary Output to "Component" or TV Aspect Ratio to "16:9 Wide" under Video Setup. Note: setting Primary Output to "Component" will degrade DVD picture performance.

Release date: February 1, 2011
Category: Public Beta Version
Main Version: BDP83-54-0130B
Loader Version: BE2731 or BT0431
Sub Version: MCU83-27-0326
Release Note:

1. Certain SACD discs with many short tracks or with a long track following several short tracks can cause the player to freeze during playback. This version fixes the issue. The crackles and pops that happened occasionally between tracks on some discs are also eliminated.
2. Fix for the issue of incorrect video size when playing some Blu-ray discs, such as "Patton", "Time Bandits" and "Date Night".
3. A small number of Blu-ray discs with Dolby TrueHD audio exhibit a momentary audio drop-out issue if the player is connected to an A/V receiver via HDMI and bitstream is selected as the HDMI Audio format. This version fixes the issue.
4. Support for LPCM audio streaming over home network is restored. The previous firmware did not carry this feature over from older versions. Please note that home network streaming is an experimental feature. You will need a computer running UPnP or DLNA streaming server software that can support transcoding to LPCM in order to use this feature.
5. The previous firmware version displays the time counter slightly too fast when playing SACD. This version fixes the issue.
6. Other general disc and media file compatibility improvement based on recent and upcoming Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted samples.

Things still broken:
1. BD-LIVE and Persistent Storage Corruptions: This will be fixed in another firmware release. OPPO has isolated the cause of these errors and is committed to eradicating them.
2. Incorrect Aspect Ratio for MKV Files: The player will still not properly display 4:3 MKV media correctly. Set Primary Output to "Component" to resolve this error.
3. Non-Locked 24Hz MKV Treated as 1080i: This too will hopefully be corrected.
4. DLNA still does not support DivX/XviD streaming.
5. Toy Story 3's 7.1 DTS-HD Master soundtrack is still decoded incorrectly.

Release date: March 3, 2011
Category: Public Beta Test Version
Main Version: BDP83-55-0226B
Loader Version: BE2731 or BT0431
Sub Version: MCU83-27-0326

1.Certain SACD discs with many short tracks or with a long track following several short tracks can cause the player to freeze during playback. This version fixes the issue. The crackles and pops that happened occasionally between tracks on some discs are also eliminated.
2.Fix for the issue of incorrect video size when playing some Blu-ray discs, such as "Patton", "Time Bandits" and "Date Night".
3.A small number of Blu-ray discs with Dolby TrueHD audio exhibit a momentary audio drop-out issue if the player is connected to an A/V receiver via HDMI and bitstream is selected as the HDMI Audio format. This version fixes the issue.
4.Support for LPCM audio streaming over home network is restored. The previous firmware did not carry this feature over from older versions. Please note that home network streaming is an experimental feature. You will need a computer running UPnP or DLNA streaming server software that can support transcoding to LPCM in order to use this feature.
5.The previous firmware version displays the time counter slightly too fast when playing SACD. This version fixes the issue.
6.The Dolby TrueHD channel mapping problem for LPCM and analog output introduced in the previous public beta firmware (not affecting the official release version) has been fixed.
7.Other general disc and media file compatibility improvement based on recent and upcoming Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted samples.

Known Bug: MKV files which are not exactly 16:9 may show up as the incorrect aspect ratio. The solution is to set Primary Output to "Component" to force the decoder to perform the aspect ratio controls. Note: setting Primary Output to "Component" will degrade DVD picture performance, so you will want to set Primary Output back to "HDMI" whenever you watch DVD-Videos.

Release date: March 17, 2011
Category: Latest Official Release
Main Version: BDP83-55-0226
Loader Version: BE2800 or BT0500
Sub Version: MCU83-27-0326

1.Certain SACD discs with many short tracks or with a long track following several short tracks can cause the player to freeze during playback. This version fixes the issue. The crackles and pops that happened occasionally between tracks on some discs are also eliminated.
2. Fix for the issue of incorrect video size when playing some Blu-ray discs, such as "Patton", "Time Bandits" and "Date Night".
3. A small number of Blu-ray discs with Dolby TrueHD audio exhibit a momentary audio drop-out issue if the player is connected to an A/V receiver via HDMI and bitstream is selected as the HDMI Audio format. This version fixes the issue.
4. Support for LPCM audio streaming over home network is restored. The previous firmware did not carry this feature over from older versions. Please note that home network streaming is an experimental feature. You will need a computer running UPnP or DLNA streaming server software that can support transcoding to LPCM in order to use this feature.
5. The previous firmware version displays the time counter slightly too fast when playing SACD. This version fixes the issue.
6. Quieter laser head movement for CD playback.
7. Other general disc and media file compatibility improvement based on recent and upcoming Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted samples.

Known Bug: MKV files which are not exactly 16:9 may show up as the incorrect aspect ratio. The solution is to set Primary Output to "Component" to force the decoder to perform the aspect ratio controls. Note: setting Primary Output to "Component" will degrade DVD picture performance, so you will want to set Primary Output back to "HDMI" whenever you watch DVD-Videos.

Release date: November 8, 2011
Category: Public Beta Test Version
Main Version: BDP83-57-1026B
Loader Version: BE2800 or BT0500
Sub Version: MCU83-27-0326

1. Resolved the disc loading issue reported on several recently released DVD movies. These DVD discs come with their Blu-ray package and sample titles include "True Grit", "Transformers 3: Dark of the Moon" and "Pirates of the Caribbean 4: On Stranger Tides". The reason for this issue is related to the new anti-copy strategy implemented on these DVDs which keeps BDP-83 searching for non-existing contents. This problem has been solved.
2. Other general disc compatibility improvement based on recent and upcoming releases. Sample titles included "Rory Gallagher: Live in Montreaux (DVD)", "Avatar" (Blu-ray included in the Panasonic 3D Kit Bundle), "OTAKU (DVD)", "Fantasia 2000 (BD, European version)", "Alban Berg Quartet: Beethoven String Quartets, Vol. 1 (DVD-A)" and "Live! (DVD, 2007)".

Release date: December 21, 2011.
Category: Latest Official Release
Main Version: BDP83-58-1215
Loader Version: BE2800 or BT0500
Sub Version: MCU83-27-0326

1. Resolved the disc loading issue reported on several recently released DVD movies. These DVD discs come with their Blu-ray package and sample titles include "True Grit", "Transformers 3: Dark of the Moon" and "Pirates of the Caribbean 4: On Stranger Tides". The reason for this issue is related to the new anti-copy strategy implemented on these DVDs which keeps BDP-83 searching for non-existing contents. This problem has been solved.
2. Other general disc compatibility improvement based on recent and upcoming releases. Sample titles included "Rory Gallagher: Live in Montreaux (DVD)", "Avatar" (Blu-ray included in the Panasonic 3D Kit Bundle), "OTAKU (DVD)", "Fantasia 2000 (BD, European version)", "Alban Berg Quartet: Beethoven String Quartets, Vol. 1 (DVD-A)" and "Live! (DVD, 2007)".

All features and improvements of the previous firmware are also included in this version.

Release date: January 23, 2012. Replaced by Official 59-0117 Firmware March 06, 2012.
Category: Latest Public Beta Release
Main Version: BDP83-59-0117B
Loader Version: BE2800 or BT0500
Sub Version: MCU83-27-0326

1. Resolved the random image freezing issue observed on several Warner Brothers Blu-ray movies. The problem happens when "BD-Live Network Access" is set to "ON" in the player's setup menu. Sample titles include "Sex and the City 2 (BD, 2011)" and "Inception (BD, 2011)". This issue has been resolved in this release.
2. Resolved the loading failure issue observed on several recently-released Blu-ray series, including "Fringe" (Season 3, 2011), "Chuck" (Season 4, 2011), "Dexter" (Season 5, 2011), "Star Wars" and "Lord of the Rings". Normally, these movies can be played with no problems when initially loaded. However, if disc playback has been stopped or the disc ejected, the disc would fail to load again the next it is played. The TV would get a black screen and the front panel display would remain at 00:00:00. The cause of this error is related to the discs' resume function implemented in BD-Java. This firmware properly handles the resume function.
3. Other general disc compatibility improvement based on recent and upcoming releases. Sample titles include "Contagion (BD, 2012)" and "Mildred Pierce (BD, 2012)".

Release date: November 26, 2014
Category: Latest Official Release
Main Version: BDP83-60-1110
Loader Version: BE2800 or BT0500
Sub Version: MCU83-27-0326

1. Resolved a disc loading failure issue with the "X-Men: Days of Future Past (BD)" released by 20th Century Fox.Customers reported that after inserting the Blu-ray disc, the player would report "Wrong Disc" error and eject the disc. This is caused by the new "BD+" protocol (or Digital Rights Protection system) applied to this title which requires longer decryption time than the value allowed by the player. This firmware adjusted the decryption time and resolved this issue.


FIRMWARE INSTRUCTIONS
VIA USB
1. Download the latest firmware release
2. Insert a USB thumb drive to the computer that stores the downloaded zip file, and unzip the firmware file to the USB drive. Verify that the USB drive now contains a UPG folder, and inside the UPG folder there are three files: BDP-83.bin, DVD.BIN and MCU83-1.BIN.
3. Remove the USB drive from the computer.
4. Turn on your TV display and the OPPO player. Make sure that there is no disc in the player and no other USB device is connected to the player.
5. Insert the USB drive containing the firmware file to a USB port on the player's front or back panel.
6. The player usually can recognize the firmware file and prompt you for firmware upgrade. In case the player does not prompt you, press the SETUP button on the remote control to enter the setup menu. Select Device Setup, Firmware Upgrade, and then Via USB.
7. Please follow the on-screen instructions to complete the firmware upgrade process.
8. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO TURN OFF THE PLAYER, UNPLUG THE POWER, OR PRESS ANY BUTTONS OTHER THAN NECESSARY TO RESPOND TO THE ON-SCREEN PROMPT DURING THE REMAINING UPGRADE PROCESS.
9. In order to complete the firmware upgrade process, the player will turn off automatically. Unplug the USB drive after the player turns itself off.
10. Turn on the player again after the firmware upgrade process is completed. Press the SETUP button on the remote control to enter the setup menu. Select Device Setup, Reset Factory Default, and then choose OK to reset the player settings. Enter your customized settings as necessary after resetting.
11. Check the new firmware version by going to the setup menu, and then selecting Device Setup - Firmware Information. If you notice that the firmware versions displayed do not match the versions listed in this release note, please retry the firmware upgrade procedure from step 4 to ensure all parts of the firmware package are installed. Early production models (not sold to retail customers) do not have an upgradeable MCU so the MCU firmware upgrade will fail. This is normal for units with serial number "E202..." .
12. Congratulations! You have just completed the firmware upgrade. Delete the UPG folder and its content from the USB drive so you do not accidentally install the firmware again.

VIA CD
1. If you requested a firmware CD from OPPO customer service, jump to step 5 of this procedure. You may also follow steps 2 - 4 to burn a firmware CD.
2. Download the latest firmware release.
3. Unzip the firmware file to the hard disk of the computer. Once unzipped, there should be a UPG folder, and inside the UPG folder there are three files: BDP-83.bin, DVD.BIN and MCU83-1.BIN. Note the location of the UPG folder.
4. Use your favorite CD/DVD burning software to create a new data disc. Put the UPG folder and its content onto the newly created data disc, and burn the disc to a CD or DVD recordable media. After the disc is burned, verify on the computer that the disc now contains a UPG folder, and inside the UPG folder there are three files: BDP-83.bin, DVD.BIN and MCU83-1.BIN. This is your firmware disc.
5. Turn on your TV display and the OPPO player. Make sure that there is no disc in the player and no USB device is connected to the player.
6. Eject the disc tray, put in the firmware disc, and then close the tray. The player usually can recognize the firmware disc and prompt you for firmware upgrade. In case the player does not prompt you, press the SETUP button on the remote control to enter the setup menu. Select Device Setup, Firmware Upgrade, and then Via Disc.
7. Please follow the on-screen instructions to complete the firmware upgrade process. Remove the disc from the tray when the tray ejects out.
8. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO CLOSE THE DISC TRAY, TURN OFF THE PLAYER, UNPLUG THE POWER, OR PRESS ANY BUTTONS OTHER THAN NECESSARY TO RESPOND TO THE ON-SCREEN PROMPT DURING THE REMAINING UPGRADE PROCESS.
9. In order to complete the firmware upgrade process, the player will turn off automatically.
10. Turn on the player again after the firmware upgrade process is completed. Press the SETUP button on the remote control to enter the setup menu. Select Device Setup, Reset Factory Default, and then choose OK to reset the player settings. Enter your customized settings as necessary after resetting.
11. Check the new firmware version by going to the setup menu, and then selecting Device Setup - Firmware Information. If you notice that the firmware versions displayed do not match the versions listed in this release note, please retry the firmware upgrade procedure from step 5 to ensure all parts of the firmware package are installed. Early production models (not sold to retail customers) do not have an upgradeable MCU so the MCU firmware upgrade will fail. This is normal for units with serial number "E202..." .
12. Congratulations! You have just completed the firmware upgrade. Erase or discard the firmware disc so you do not accidentally install the firmware again.

VIA ETHERNET
1. Press Eject. If you have Firmware Notifications (Device Setup) set to ON, the player will inform you of a new firmware release. Skip to Step 4.
2. With no disc in the player press Setup.
3. Select Device Setup then Firmware Upgrade then Via Ethernet.
4. Please follow the on-screen instructions to complete the firmware upgrade process.
5. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO TURN OFF THE PLAYER, UNPLUG THE POWER, OR PRESS ANY BUTTONS OTHER THAN NECESSARY TO RESPOND TO THE ON-SCREEN PROMPT DURING THE REMAINING UPGRADE PROCESS.
6. Turn on the player again after the firmware upgrade process is completed. Press the SETUP button on the remote control to enter the setup menu. Select Device Setup, Reset Factory Default, and then choose OK to reset the player settings. Enter your customized settings as necessary after resetting.
7. Check the new firmware version by going to the setup menu, and then selecting Device Setup - Firmware Information. If you notice that the firmware versions displayed do not match the versions listed in this release note, please retry the firmware upgrade procedure from step 5 to ensure all parts of the firmware package are installed. Early production models (not sold to retail customers) do not have an upgradeable MCU so the MCU firmware upgrade will fail. This is normal for units with serial number "E202..." .
8. Congratulations! You have just completed the firmware upgrade. Erase or discard the firmware disc so you do not accidentally install the firmware again.
 
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#38,082 ·

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Originally Posted by Repdetect  /t/1124287/official-oppo-bdp-83-owners-thread-technical-talk-only/38070#post_22439625


Just curious why you and anyone else on this forum dumped your hd dvd player and titles, as I still have mine and they look and sound great.

Oh yeah, they're 1080i not 1080p, and no one can see any difference between them and blurays on a on a 65" screen.

Curious how your viewing and listening experience is any different on the titles you replaced.

I don't care about technical differences regarding specs that can't be seen or heard. Had enough of that bs over the decades.

I sometimes think about replacing my hd-dvd's but then think, why?

My number one reason is lack of shelf space for the movies and the players. Also it doesn't help that I live in a home that is a 100 years old and only 1100 square feet. 600 square feet downstairs, 500 square feet upstairs, and 500 square feet in the basement. My tools, furnace, oil tank, and washer and dryer take up most of that space. My living room is only 10 feet by 20 feet and the new furniture is much larger than the old furniture, especially the debt of the furniture, so I now can only put my HT set up in one place. The landing of the stairs also limits my HT space even more. I can not even get a bigger TV or TV stand than my cuurent one to place more hardware on. I am even running out of shelf space for my ever expanding Blu ray collection. This is the main reason why I purchased the LG BH200 Super Blu player. It saved a lot of space for other devices.

Once I pick up the Blu ray box sets of Indy Joes and Lethal weapon I will be officially down to only 10 SD DVD movies and the complete series of Sienfeld and Columbo.


And the second reason is hardware failure just as vinnie97 mentioned. The discs are not much use once you can no longer get a device to play them on. With the BH 200 we were running into issues with HD DVDs no longer working when they would release a firmware update for Blu rays. It became almost normal to know which firmware update I had to roll back to in order to play certain HD DVDs, and if I did not want to do that I had to unbox the A2 every time I ran into HD DVD playback problems. Also LG showed no interest in fixing HD DVD problems. In the end I found it easier to purchase the Blu ray copy when they became available.


My experience with HD DVD and the loss of other hardware do to poor support, break downs, and the inablility to get parts or a repair man to fix the hardware has prevented me from embracing 3D and now even 4k. These are basically the reasons why I decided to get an OPPO 83. And these will be the reasons when I decide to get a new OPPO in the future.
 
#38,083 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by Repdetect  /t/1124287/official-oppo-bdp-83-owners-thread-technical-talk-only/38070#post_22439625


Just curious why you and anyone else on this forum dumped your hd dvd player and titles, as I still have mine and they look and sound great.

Oh yeah, they're 1080i not 1080p, and no one can see any difference between them and blurays on a on a 65" screen.

Curious how your viewing and listening experience is any different on the titles you replaced.

I don't care about technical differences regarding specs that can't be seen or heard. Had enough of that bs over the decades.

I sometimes think about replacing my hd-dvd's but then think, why?

I assume you are referring to the HD-DVD model that you have is only capable of outputting 1080i? Otherwise the HD-DVD discs are most certainly 1080p. No issues whatsover with my top of the line Toshiba HD-XA2..

And I love that fact that the majority of titles go quickly to the main menu screen instead of viewing/skipping over tons of previews!
 
#38,084 ·
My HD-A35 is still working. So's my BDP-83. I have the A35 unplugged. If I want to watch any of the HD-DVDs I collected, I watch the rips I did using MakeMKV... unless I want to hear the Dolby TrueHD audio... then I fire up the A35 and play away. Cannot really say I hear much difference, though, so mostly the A35 is unplugged.
 
#38,085 ·
I still have two HD_DVD players A-35. HD-XA2. I also have an Oppo BDP-83SE. The picture quality is about the same, but the HD-DVD's are faster to load and easier to operate. As far as up conversion goes, the Oppo and the A-35 are about the same sharpness, the XA-2 is slightly softer. The big advantage to the Blu-ray is the sound quality. I have a good library of HD-DVD's and I play them regularly
 
#38,086 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jed1  /t/1124287/official-oppo-bdp-83-owners-thread-technical-talk-only/38070#post_22441170


My number one reason is lack of shelf space for the movies and the players. Also it doesn't help that I live in a home that is a 100 years old and only 1100 square feet. 600 square feet downstairs, 500 square feet upstairs, and 500 square feet in the basement. My tools, furnace, oil tank, and washer and dryer take up most of that space. My living room is only 10 feet by 20 feet and the new furniture is much larger than the old furniture, especially the debt of the furniture, so I now can only put my HT set up in one place. The landing of the stairs also limits my HT space even more. I can not even get a bigger TV or TV stand than my cuurent one to place more hardware on. I am even running out of shelf space for my ever expanding Blu ray collection. This is the main reason why I purchased the LG BH200 Super Blu player. It saved a lot of space for other devices.

Once I pick up the Blu ray box sets of Indy Joes and Lethal weapon I will be officially down to only 10 SD DVD movies and the complete series of Sienfeld and Columbo.

I can relate to that. For 26 years I lived in a house that was 885 sq ft total. I recently moved into a 2200 sq ft house and that does not include a huge finished basement wher I am currently in the process of setting up my primary HT.


In the little house I ended up with media everywhere. Cases in the LR, hall, BR plus stacks here, there and everywhere. I just got finished setting up the "media corner" in the basement of the new place. Here is how it looks now. So nice to be able to know/find something exactly where it should be.





 
#38,087 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by Repdetect  /t/1124287/official-oppo-bdp-83-owners-thread-technical-talk-only/38050_50#post_22439625


Just curious why you and anyone else on this forum dumped your hd dvd player and titles, as I still have mine and they look and sound great.

Oh yeah, they're 1080i not 1080p, and no one can see any difference between them and blurays on a on a 65" screen.

Curious how your viewing and listening experience is any different on the titles you replaced.

I don't care about technical differences regarding specs that can't be seen or heard. Had enough of that bs over the decades.

I sometimes think about replacing my hd-dvd's but then think, why?

Me too. Even thought they're non-lossless audio, they still look and sound great. I have two HDDVD players, one being that big clunker Toshiba that was the first one on the market. It's a backup in case my A35 ever craps out.


Oh.....and I still have a couple dozen DVHS HD tapes and a player that sees duty now and again! When the hardware all goes to heck on me, hopefully so many years have gone by that I feel fully ammortized and comfortable in selling the software off for a nickel on the dollar.
 
#38,089 ·
deano86 -"I assume you are referring to the HD-DVD model that you have is only capable of outputting 1080i?"


that's right. My TV converts to 1080p. Stunning picture, and with so many hd-dvd units on the used market, I can pick up a backup player for $50.


I have had no problem playing any of the 30 or so disks I have.
 
#38,090 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by gsr  /t/1124287/official-oppo-bdp-83-owners-thread-technical-talk-only/38050_50#post_22442848


Did I stumble into the vintage format thread by mistake?


Seriously though, let's please try to keep this thread on topic.

We're just setting up templates for a few years down the road, so you'll only have to delete the HDDVD references and insert Blu-ray!
 
#38,091 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by Repdetect  /t/1124287/official-oppo-bdp-83-owners-thread-technical-talk-only/38070#post_22439625


Just curious why you and anyone else on this forum dumped your hd dvd player and titles, as I still have mine and they look and sound great.

Oh yeah, they're 1080i not 1080p, and no one can see any difference between them and blurays on a on a 65" screen.

Curious how your viewing and listening experience is any different on the titles you replaced.

I don't care about technical differences regarding specs that can't be seen or heard. Had enough of that bs over the decades.

I sometimes think about replacing my hd-dvd's but then think, why?

A lot of the masters are the same. However, I'm going to return all my Warner titles as they are prone to "laser rot". There's a thread on this forum with affected titles and HD DVD users' experiences with laser rot.


My "Mutiny on the Bounty" is hosed, and I only just opened it from the shrink wrap.
 
#38,092 ·
Going to check in here because I haven't found an answer yet. I recently picked up "Alien" and "Aliens" on blu-ray from Amazon after the recent price drop. On each disc, the theatrical versions play perfectly. The director's cut on each...not so much. Doesn't matter what I set the TV on (4:3 letterbox, 4:3 pan/scan, 16:9 wide, 16:9 wide/auto), it looks as though it's only showing the upper left quadrant of the movie. I have a Samsung UN55C6500 TV, Oppo-83, and a Yamaha RX-V667 receiver. Do I have two bad discs or am I overlooking something minor?
 
#38,093 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by smudge981  /t/1124287/official-oppo-bdp-83-owners-thread-technical-talk-only/38070#post_22443535


Going to check in here because I haven't found an answer yet. I recently picked up "Alien" and "Aliens" on blu-ray from Amazon after the recent price drop. On each disc, the theatrical versions play perfectly. The director's cut on each...not so much. Doesn't matter what I set the TV on (4:3 letterbox, 4:3 pan/scan, 16:9 wide, 16:9 wide/auto), it looks as though it's only showing the upper left quadrant of the movie. I have a Samsung UN55C6500 TV, Oppo-83, and a Yamaha RX-V667 receiver. Do I have two bad discs or am I overlooking something minor?

I recall that as a bug, but it was years ago. Are you running current firmware?


What I recall was the whole image was displayed, but it was zoomed out and filled only one corner of the screen.


-Bill
 
#38,095 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by wmcclain  /t/1124287/official-oppo-bdp-83-owners-thread-technical-talk-only/38070#post_22443596


I recall that as a bug, but it was years ago. Are you running current firmware?

What I recall was the whole image was displayed, but it was zoomed out and filled only one corner of the screen.

-Bill

Thanks Bill. I was wondering if it was a firmware issue. Would the last update take care of it?
 
#38,096 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by smudge981  /t/1124287/official-oppo-bdp-83-owners-thread-technical-talk-only/38070#post_22444267

Quote:
Originally Posted by wmcclain  /t/1124287/official-oppo-bdp-83-owners-thread-technical-talk-only/38070#post_22443596


I recall that as a bug, but it was years ago. Are you running current firmware?

What I recall was the whole image was displayed, but it was zoomed out and filled only one corner of the screen.

-Bill

Thanks Bill. I was wondering if it was a firmware issue. Would the last update take care of it?

Yes, pretty sure. If it doesn't, let us know.


-Bill
 
#38,097 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by mzpro5  /t/1124287/official-oppo-bdp-83-owners-thread-technical-talk-only/38070#post_22442485


I can relate to that. For 26 years I lived in a house that was 885 sq ft total. I recently moved into a 2200 sq ft house and that does not include a huge finished basement wher I am currently in the process of setting up my primary HT.

In the little house I ended up with media everywhere. Cases in the LR, hall, BR plus stacks here, there and everywhere. I just got finished setting up the "media corner" in the basement of the new place.

Looks great! Plenty of room to grow your collection. I have started dreaming about a new home and two must haves is a spacious theater room and a very spacious garage. I am going to make time this weekend to try some of the 100 anniversary Universal titles I recently bought.
 
#38,098 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by gsr  /t/1124287/official-oppo-bdp-83-owners-thread-technical-talk-only/38070#post_22442848


Did I stumble into the vintage format thread by mistake?


Seriously though, let's please try to keep this thread on topic.

It seems a lot of HD DVD owners have OPPOs. I wonder if OPPO can make their players truely universal and add HD DVD playback to thier players. I think it is the only shiney disc that OPPO doesn't play.
 
#38,099 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by wmcclain  /t/1124287/official-oppo-bdp-83-owners-thread-technical-talk-only/38070#post_22444273


Yes, pretty sure. If it doesn't, let us know.

-Bill

Thank you, sir. Will do.
 
#38,100 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jed1  /t/1124287/official-oppo-bdp-83-owners-thread-technical-talk-only/38070#post_22444577


It seems a lot of HD DVD owners have OPPOs. I wonder if OPPO can make their players truely universal and add HD DVD playback to thier players. I think it is the only shiney disc that OPPO doesn't play.

The problem is the laser, although using a similar blue diode, runs at a completely different frequency than Blu-ray. Another issue is that the decoder in the player was not designed for decoding HD DVD, so OPPO would have to switch to a generic FPGA, ARM, or CISC processor if they wanted to support HD DVD. So you have an initial increase in cost plus the time it will take to write all of your code from scratch (OPPO can't use any of the code they presently run for their Blu-ray players). It would just be too costly and time consuming for any manufacturer at this point to get into the HD DVD game, particularly as you can still find dedicated players and the Xbox 360 addon for cheap.
 
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