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I am using a Rosewill RNX-N1 which I bought from NewEgg about a year ago for $30 and it works.

I have a Rosewill RNX-G1 so I will give it a try. Thanks.
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I am using a Rosewill RNX-N1 which I bought from NewEgg about a year ago for $30 and it works.

My RNX-G1 didn't work on my first attempt. Can't find my router for some reason. Gotta play around some more.
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Bricked my 1600 too going from 2.13 to 2.15. I've had no other problems with this player for 2 years and have done multiple FW updates. I'll likely send the unit in Monday if unable to find any other fix. They said they'll send a refurb if unable to fix mine


Very interesting, wonder if they determined the last update was bad and pulled it; there's no other references to it on their webpage. Since my player is now stuck at "LOAD" I don't think I can install this again, but at least giving it a shot before mailing in my player for repair.

Got back my player and it's working fine after repair. Samsung paid shipping both ways. I shipped it on March 7th and received it back on March 17th.

Came back with 2.15 firmware and prompts me 2.16 is available for download. I'm certainly being leary about upgrading now and will wait a few months...
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I'm on Windows 7 pro x64 and can stream on my PS3. Can I see pics and play music from my network through the Samsung bpd1600? How. Right now I'm on the same network and can stream netflix directly with no problem.

If not, can you recommend a DVD player that can play netork files and do netflix?

Thanks.
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I'm on Windows 7 pro x64 and can stream on my PS3. Can I see pics and play music from my network through the Samsung bpd1600? How. Right now I'm on the same network and can stream netflix directly with no problem.

If not, can you recommend a DVD player that can play netork files and do netflix?

Thanks.

No, I believe. I have the BDP1590 witch it's the same and it doesn't.
Take a look at: www.oppodigital.com model BD-P93 witch is my principal BD player.
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I turned on my Blu-ray player and I was notified that the 2.16 version was available. Since the 2.15 firmware brought on the problem that I couldn't play the new Fox Blu-ray movies, I upgraded to the 2.16 to see if it fixed the problem. Thankfully I can now play the Fox Blu-ray movies I was having problems with. The firmware has fixed the problem. I'm happy about that
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No, I believe. I have the BDP1590 witch it's the same and it doesn't.
Take a look at: www.oppodigital.com model BD-P93 witch is my principal BD player.

Does that model BD-P93 support DLNA and work with widows media stream.. shame to have to upgrade.

Here's the manual link for the BD-P1600 AND 1590, i did not see any reference to windows or DLNA

Samsung BD-P1600 MANUAL PDF

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I'm on Windows 7 pro x64 and can stream on my PS3. Can I see pics and play music from my network through the Samsung bpd1600? How. Right now I'm on the same network and can stream netflix directly with no problem.

If not, can you recommend a DVD player that can play netork files and do netflix?

Thanks.

BDP1600 can't play network files. BD-C5500 has DLNA support.
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Does that model BD-P93 support DLNA and work with widows media stream.. shame to have to upgrade.

Here's the manual link for the BD-P1600 AND 1590, i did not see any reference to windows or DLNA

Samsung BD-P1600 MANUAL PDF

Thanks.

Yes, it does. I use Twonky as DLNA server on my Win7, because my music it's store as flac and WMP doesn't supported. I also use Playon to stream Hulu, Revision shows, etc. to the player.
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I am using a Rosewill RNX-N1 which I bought from NewEgg about a year ago for $30 and it works.

My G1 did not work. Apparently does not have the same RALink chipset as the Samsung and the N1.
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My RNX-G1 didn't work on my first attempt. Can't find my router for some reason. Gotta play around some more.

My RNX-N1 worked right out of the box, all I had to do was go through the wireless setup menu in the Samsung.

I don't know for sure, but I believe the N1 (as opposed to G1) makes some sort of difference. I read something about the particular chipset that was used in the N1 matches the Samsung. Might look at this Amazon link, it lists a bunch of reviews talking about Samsung compatability:

http://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-RNX-N...0671005&sr=1-1

Again, I'm not sure of this latest version, but my RNX-N1 from a year ago works perfectly. Mine is white, but this newer one is black.
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Question - I finally bought some decent front speakers and plan to listen to a lot more music now.

I don't own a CD player but I do have my Sammy Blu-Ray. I know it plays audio CDs - is there any reason to get a separate CD player to push the music through my AVR or is the Blu-Ray player going to read and send the digital content exactly the same as a CD player?
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Question - I finally bought some decent front speakers and plan to listen to a lot more music now.

I don't own a CD player but I do have my Sammy Blu-Ray. I know it plays audio CDs - is there any reason to get a separate CD player to push the music through my AVR or is the Blu-Ray player going to read and send the digital content exactly the same as a CD player?

BD-P1600 can read CD-Audio but can not play music at all. If you want quality sound buy CD player (Onkyo, Rotel, Cambridge Audio, NAD, etc).
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BD-P1600 can read CD-Audio but can not play music at all. If you want quality sound buy CD player (Onkyo, Rotel, Cambridge Audio, NAD, etc).

Just out of curiosity, on what do you base that statement? I've always found music to sound just fine on the 1600. Then again, while I enjoy music and am picky about my sound system, I'm not "a $300 audio cable sounds better than a $10 cable" picky, so perhaps a frame a reference is in order.
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on what do you base that statement?

On comparing with CD players. If you'd have one you never listen music on samsung.
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I don't own a CD player but I do have my Sammy Blu-Ray. I know it plays audio CDs - is there any reason to get a separate CD player to push the music through my AVR or is the Blu-Ray player going to read and send the digital content exactly the same as a CD player?

Here is what Crutchfield says.

Q: How good are Blu-ray and DVD players at playing music CDs?

A: Blu-ray and DVD players make excellent CD players, and current models can also play audio CD-Rs and CD-RWs and MP3 CD-R/RWs you record yourself with a CD recording deck or computer CD-R/RW drive. Some players can also play high-resolution audio, like SACD, DVD-Audio, or both.

A Blu-ray or DVD player's advanced disc transport and digital-to-analog converters are designed for the demanding task of reading and processing the huge amounts of audio and video information on Blu-rays and DVDs. By comparison, playing a music CD is a piece of cake. Based on our experience, these players sound at least as good as a typical CD player.


You can bet that since Crutchfield is in the business of selling audio components, if they thought you needed a CD player in addition to a Blu-Ray player, they would say so.
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My G1 did not work. Apparently does not have the same RALink chipset as the Samsung and the N1.

Other manufactures use RALink chipset, is there anyway to determine which is the one that works? (other then trial and error).

Having said that I just bought a MSI wireless dongle and although I don't know what chipset it has the included software is by RALink... I'll give it a try and report back.

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Just out of curiosity, on what do you base that statement? I've always found music to sound just fine on the 1600. Then again, while I enjoy music and am picky about my sound system, I'm not "a $300 audio cable sounds better than a $10 cable" picky, so perhaps a frame a reference is in order.

The DAC and clock used on the 1590/1600 are not good enough for serious music listening. Even if you using HDMI or any digital connection for that matter there too much jitter. After listening for some time from the Samsung it becomes fatiguing.
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. . . After listening for some time from the Samsung it becomes fatiguing.

I feel that way about Pink Floyd.

Again, I feel like a frame of reference would be useful here.

There are some who do things like coating their speaker wires with extra virgin olive oil from the Abruzzo region of Italy in order to prevent frequencies on the extreme ranges from escaping (Because as we all know, oil from the Toscano region tends to lock in the higher frequencies while letting the low end escape, therefore creating an unbalanced sound.)

Then there are those who think 8-tracks sound great.

I'm somewhere in the middle, a few notches above* people who buy Home Theater in a Box(tm) systems. I'm picky, but I'm also not rich, so I buy the best stuff I can afford. I've listened to a lot of music on my 1600 ranging from rock to classical to jazz, and "fatigue" is something I've never experienced.

If you're closer to the first group I mentioned then obviously your reaction will be different, but if you're anywhere near my group I think you'll be perfectly pleased with CDs on your 1600.

*By "above" I do not mean "better" in a snobbish way. Nor do I mean to besmirch any type of audiophile. I'm just trying to create a classification system that will help put into context opinions about the 1600's capabilities (or lack thereof) as a CD player.
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2.16 fix update

So far with 2.16 installed I've not been able to reproduce the audio sync problem I was having with Iron Man 2. Before when watching it with audiophile mode selected the audio would lose sync within a few seconds of playing. I played bits of several chapters today, some more than once, and it never lost sync. Maybe 2.16 fixed it.
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*By "above" I do not mean "better" in a snobbish way. Nor do I mean to besmirch any type of audiophile. I'm just trying to create a classification system that will help put into context opinions about the 1600's capabilities (or lack thereof) as a CD player.

Unless the listening tests are conducted in such a way that the listener does not know which source he is listening too, they aren't really valid. Everyone is biased by their perceptions.
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I feel that way about Pink Floyd.

Again, I feel like a frame of reference would be useful here.

There are some who do things like coating their speaker wires with extra virgin olive oil from the Abruzzo region of Italy in order to prevent frequencies on the extreme ranges from escaping (Because as we all know, oil from the Toscano region tends to lock in the higher frequencies while letting the low end escape, therefore creating an unbalanced sound.)

Then there are those who think 8-tracks sound great.

I'm somewhere in the middle, a few notches above* people who buy Home Theater in a Box(tm) systems. I'm picky, but I'm also not rich, so I buy the best stuff I can afford. I've listened to a lot of music on my 1600 ranging from rock to classical to jazz, and "fatigue" is something I've never experienced.

If you're closer to the first group I mentioned then obviously your reaction will be different, but if you're anywhere near my group I think you'll be perfectly pleased with CDs on your 1600.

*By "above" I do not mean "better" in a snobbish way. Nor do I mean to besmirch any type of audiophile. I'm just trying to create a classification system that will help put into context opinions about the 1600's capabilities (or lack thereof) as a CD player.

I get you. I'm not rich either. What I use for CD player where I have the Samsung is an old DVD (Oppo 980) player that happens to play SACD and have in my opinion better sound.
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Unless the listening tests are conducted in such a way that the listener does not know which source he is listening too, they aren't really valid. Everyone is biased by their perceptions.

Right. Just like wine snobs can be tricked by cheap wine in bottles with expensive labels. I'm just talking generalities, not scientifically accurate blind tests.
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There are some who do things like coating their speaker wires with extra virgin olive oil from the Abruzzo region of Italy in order to prevent frequencies on the extreme ranges from escaping (Because as we all know, oil from the Toscano region tends to lock in the higher frequencies while letting the low end escape, therefore creating an unbalanced sound.)

The real kicker is to keep your speaker wires when not in use in an air tight container along with a large wedge of imported provolone cheese from the Lombardia region. Don't use provolone from the Veneto region as it doesn't preserve the audio properties of the wires over as long a period of time.
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Other manufactures use RALink chipset, is there anyway to determine which is the one that works? (other then trial and error).
The Ralink 2870 is used in both the Samsung and Rosewill RNX-N1 adapters which is apparently why the Rosewill N1 works but the G1 does not.
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I was watching an episode of Star Trek TOS from the Season 2 Blu set and the audio jumped out of sync by a second or two. Obviously not all of the bitstream audiophile issues have been fixed by 2.16. Sigh.
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The Ralink 2870 is used in both the Samsung and Rosewill RNX-N1 adapters which is apparently why the Rosewill N1 works but the G1 does not.
Either I am doing it wrong or the MSI adapter I have does not have that chipset, the TV didn't even recognize that I had plugged it in?

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Does anybody have a copy of firmware version 2.15? I just upgraded to 2.16 and almost nothing will play so I want to try to roll it back. Thanks.
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Does anybody have a copy of firmware version 2.15? I just upgraded to 2.16 and almost nothing will play so I want to try to roll it back. Thanks.

I would like this also. I can play DVD's but BluRays skip like carzy since 2.15 and 2.16. Any help would be appreciated.
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Does anybody have a copy of firmware version 2.15? I just upgraded to 2.16 and almost nothing will play so I want to try to roll it back. Thanks.

Call Samsung and report the issue....
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