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post #1531 of 3602 Old 11-14-2009, 03:17 PM
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I have played wall*e on the 1600 and havent noticed any issues with freezing

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Both Wall-E and Ratatouille have worked fine for us. We'll also be trying Up and Monsters Inc over the next two nights; keeping fingers crossed!

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Update: No problems with Up or Monsters Inc for me on 2.04.

Updated to 2.05 this morning....now had freezing problems with "Rataouille." It's the exact spot that the 3600 people said it was at...1 hr 16 mins when the water splashes on the chef. All my firmwares were saved and I installed 1.04 back since that firmware has given me the least amount of issues. Freezing gone...though I haven't played the entire movie all the way through...just that one part. But all I know is that this movie has played perfectly when I had 2.04. Then problems arose when I decided to install 2.05.

This is exactly why I said before that I regret not buying a PS3. This Samsung player is a problem. Same goes for the 3600, which I also own. The player itself is good...but the firmwares that are being released are buggy.
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I have had good results so far with 2.04, think i'll skip 2.05!
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OK we were watching Netflix last night, finished a movie and went to watch another then it started with the time showing 00:00 and then about five minutes in and it froze up on me. Stopped the movie and tried to start it again but nothing. Ended up having to soft boot again for it to start back up. Does anyone have old versions of firmware that work better than this 2.05? I would be very appreciative of it to try to get this going correctly, but at this point I am thinking of returning it and getting either the Panny 60 or LG 370, had too much bad luck with sony in the past. Sorry folks, thanks for listing to my little rant.
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i just finsished watching up, the movie would have periodic freezing during the movie, has anyone else had this problem?
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i just finsished watching up, the movie would have periodic freezing during the movie, has anyone else had this problem?

Look at my above post. Same problem with Ratatouille when I updated to 2.05. What firmware version are you using? This a firmware issue. I reverted back to 1.04...problem solved. Not sure how well it will work with Up since it's a new release and it's an old firmware, but it's worth a try. If you have 1.04 on handy, try installing it.
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Look at my above post. Same problem with Ratatouille when I updated to 2.05. What firmware version are you using? This a firmware issue. I reverted back to 1.04...problem solved. Not sure how well it will work with Up since it's a new release and it's an old firmware, but it's worth a try. If you have 1.04 on handy, try installing it.

did you got to 1.04 or 2.04?

im on 2.5 and never had any issues like thisbefore

how does netflix work with 1.04?
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2.04 didn't have any freezing issues. Only 2.05. But 1.04 is more stable, which is why I chose to revert back to that.

I don't stream so I don't know how Netflix works.
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We just installed a new home theater last week. The guy that did our install had problems with the first BD-p1600 that he installed. It was initially working well but then became very "snowy" with fine pixelation on every menu and during playback.

He replaced it with another unit that also worked fine until today. It prompted us to do a firmware upgrade which of couse I did. It seemed to go fine but when I powered the unit back up there was the same fine "snow" that had hit the first unit. It is completely unwatchable. My guess is that installer updated the first unit and got the same results.

I have since tried reinstalling the 2.05 firmware twice via USB and also tried reseting using the skip button with no change in the artifact. Samsung Support is offline on the weekend.

Has anyone else fixed this particular "Death by Firmware Upgrade" ?

Are the patches to older firmware versions available for me to try?

So here is my update:

I found a link to version 1.03 which I downloaded and installed via USB. And...

Success! The snow and static lines are gone! Also, Up! appears to play.

However, we have lost YouTube and Blockbuster support with this older version. I'd like to get back to a newer version that still works on my player.

Has anyone seen a USB copy of the 2.03 or 2.04 firmware available?

Should I try to upgrade to 2.05 again?
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1.04 has YT and BB streaming. Use that. It's the most stable firmware.
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After upgrading to 2.05, we have many problems with Blu-ray disks. We usually get half way thru and it starts freezing and jumping. Called Samsung support yesterday they said I'd have to send the unit in and pay to have it fixed which is not acceptable for a unit that's under a year old. I'd like to get this fixed on my own.
I found a link for the 1.04 firmware but it didn't work. I'll never buy Samsung again after my experience with customer support yesterday

If anyone can provide the 1.04 firmware, I'd appreciate it.
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I have version 2.05 installed in my BP-1600. I have had no problems. I played UP twice without any freezes.
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i downgraded my firmware to 2.04 and replayed Up, and again it started freezing in the exactsame spot as with the 2.05 firmware, and the two spots were at the 3 minute 14 second mark, and again at the 7 minute mark.

i put the disc in my bd-p1500 samsung, and it played flawlessly through those two spots
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1.04 has YT and BB streaming. Use that. It's the most stable firmware.

I'll try it. Thanks.
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After upgrading to 2.05, we have many problems with Blu-ray disks. We usually get half way thru and it starts freezing and jumping. Called Samsung support yesterday they said I'd have to send the unit in and pay to have it fixed which is not acceptable for a unit that's under a year old. I'd like to get this fixed on my own.
I found a link for the 1.04 firmware but it didn't work. I'll never buy Samsung again after my experience with customer support yesterday

If anyone can provide the 1.04 firmware, I'd appreciate it.

I found it here.

BD-P1600 CD 1.04 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IFXW55OY
BD-P1600 USB 1.04: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H9RQGCHP

I tried 1.04 on my machine and it reverted to the snow and static lines picture quality.

I switched back to 1.03 and the picture is fine again.

*sigh*

Any links to 2.03 or 2.04 for me to try?
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i just finsished watching up, the movie would have periodic freezing during the movie, has anyone else had this problem?

Yes. At the start of the movie there is a disclaimer that says that there may be moments when it freezes in order to load ( or something to that effect ). Then again if you look over at sony forums people are having issues with their bdp"s freezing. It turns out that if you have BD live stuff on it can affect playback (among other things ). Mine is not currently hooked up to the wifi but i do have the latest firmware and it works great! It seems that 2.05 has been causing alot of problems for people. heres a thread dedicated to 2.05
http://forums.cnet.com/5208-13973_10...rum-w;forums06

check this article out freezing is coming and doesnt just happen to samsung bdp's
http://www.brighthub.com/electronics...les/50386.aspx
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Question....

When "Up" freezes, does it get stuck? Or is it just a momentary pause?
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Question....

When "Up" freezes, does it get stuck? Or is it just a momentary pause?

its momentary probably only freezes for a few seconds or more.
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Question....

When "Up" freezes, does it get stuck? Or is it just a momentary pause?

when my freezes up its usually for abuot 5 seconds or so, then itll start to play again,


i think ill try to disconnect bd live and see if that helps
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I found it here.

BD-P1600 CD 1.04 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IFXW55OY
BD-P1600 USB 1.04: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H9RQGCHP

I tried 1.04 on my machine and it reverted to the snow and static lines picture quality.

I switched back to 1.03 and the picture is fine again.

*sigh*

Any links to 2.03 or 2.04 for me to try?

Oh! thanks!
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i have had good results so far with 2.04, think i'll skip 2.05!

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1.04 has YT and BB streaming. Use that. It's the most stable firmware.

I had problems with the 1.04 firmware. On this version when I watched Netflix and stopped a movie when I started it again it would start much earlier in the movie.

For me 2.04 has been the best version of firmware that included Blockbuster and Youtube.

But like we've noticed all along what works for one of our machines doesn't always work for others. People are using 2.05 without problems (I'm happy with 2.04 so I'm not risking changing firmware until some big reason is offered) and other are having problems with it. I've got to wonder if as the year has gone by if Samsung is using different components inside the 1600 as suppliers change prices, improved parts, or for whatever reason and that is why there isn't a consistant result with each version of firmware.

So that being said I'm not saying MrHT is wrong, I remember when I was having 1.04 problems there were people that had no problems. But if you follow that advice and it doesn't work give 2.04 a try. Maybe your 1600 and mine are from the same batch, in the same mood, or whatever makes an update work with each machine!
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Tried 2.04 and 2.05. Both had menu freezing problems, particularly on "Bee Movie" which I rented. 1.04...no lockup.

Never used the streaming on these players so I can't comment on how well they work on my machine.
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Tried 2.04 and 2.05. Both had menu freezing problems, particularly on "Bee Movie" which I rented. 1.04...no lockup.

Never used the streaming on these players so I can't comment on how well they work on my machine.

MrHT do you have BDlive turned on?
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It's Off.

All firmwares should have the exact same reaction of each machine regardless of manufacture date. The reason for the different responses could be due to one of the following reasons:

1- Different settings....like one person's machine could be connected to internet while another's is offline.
2- Each person plays a different movie. And some people play a lot more movies than others. And some use their machine more often than others.
3- A couple of people could have a defective machine.
4- Some people are not being truthful. Not pointing fingers at anyone.

I have both the 3600 and 1600 and both get the same exact reaction/bug on each firmware I download.
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Well, count me in for having problems with Up and Monsters Inc. Up started stuttering right in the beginning of the movie (after the movie theater) and then became out of sync. Didn't bother keeping it in the player and moved it to my PS3 which played it flawlessly. Same problem with Monsters. Really disappointed (probably get a different player as I'm getting tired of the praying I get through the movie crapshoot)
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Really disappointed (probably get a different player as I'm getting tired of the praying I get through the movie crapshoot)

Agreed....though that's not half the problem. What bugs me is the fact that more problems arise with each new firmware update. That should not happen. Due to this mess, I can't keep my player up to date anymore, which is bad when I buy future releases that may not be compatible with older firmwares.

Let me know what player you end up buying and how it is. So far from reading customers' feedback, I can't find any standalone player that can play every movie flawlessly as the PS3.
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Well, count me in for having problems with Up and Monsters Inc. Up started stuttering right in the beginning of the movie (after the movie theater) and then became out of sync. Didn't bother keeping it in the player and moved it to my PS3 which played it flawlessly. Same problem with Monsters. Really disappointed (probably get a different player as I'm getting tired of the praying I get through the movie crapshoot)

I played about 1/3 of Monsters Inc yesterday and didn't have any problems so far. I have the latest firmware that can be loaded online. I didn't add any memory so can't be bdlive.
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It's Off.

All firmwares should have the exact same reaction of each machine regardless of manufacture date. The reason for the different responses could be due to one of the following reasons:

1- Different settings....like one person's machine could be connected to internet while another's is offline.
2- Each person plays a different movie. And some people play a lot more movies than others. And some use their machine more often than others.
3- A couple of people could have a defective machine.
4- Some people are not being truthful. Not pointing fingers at anyone.

I have both the 3600 and 1600 and both get the same exact reaction/bug on each firmware I download.

Those reasons could explain the different experiences people have with the 1600, but the wide variety tells me there's more to the story. Maybe Samsung did something like using different brands of chips in different batches of players. There's too much variance in behavior with each firmware update to assume that nothing in the players is contributing.

Different settings? Maybe. There are a LOT of variables that could contribute to problems, from Anynet to video connection type to audio settings to BD Live. I'm wondering if we shouldn't all start listing our settings in our forum signatures. I've been considering doing that for a while now.

Different movies? I see a lot of people reporting the exact same problems with the same movies.

Defective machines? Definitely. My first 1600 did a lot of strange things that my replacement never did, even on the same firmware version.

People not being truthful? Perhaps, although I can't imagine what someone would gain by lying about their 1600's performance on a forum such as this. Unless they work for Sony.

All I know is my 1600 is working better than ever with the 2.05 firmware, and I use every feature but Blockbuster. But I don't have any of the movies that people are reporting trouble with (e.g. Up, Monster's Inc., Ratatouille) so who's to say mine wouldn't produce the same problems?

I also don't watch a movie every night so I can't really put mine through the paces that some do. I'm lucky to watch one a week. So maybe the problems are there and I'm just not finding them. I have a handful of BDs I've yet to watch all the way through.

I'm just thankful we have this forum to compare experiences. We've proven that we all don't get the same results even with the same variables, but usually after a while a commonality is found and it's rare (except in cases in which the player seems to be defective) that someone reports a problem here that no one else can repeat.
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Those reasons could explain the different experiences people have with the 1600, but the wide variety tells me there's more to the story. Maybe Samsung did something like using different brands of chips in different batches of players. There's too much variance in behavior with each firmware update to assume that nothing in the players is contributing.

Perhaps. But both my 3600 and 1600 have the same reaction to each firmware. Though surprisingly, the higher end 3600 seems to be a tad less stable. Don't know why.

I have over 30 Blu-ray titles, which is not much but I watch them repeatedly. And I rent about 6-7 BDs a month with Netflix's Unlimited 1-at-a-time plan. I use these players a lot which is why I seem to experience a lot of issues.

The 2.XX firmwares are deceiving because it seems to be ok for the most part. But then you hit a movie that it gets funky with. In my case....Bee Movie. Menu struggles to load and freezes. I revert back to 1.04 and Bee Movie is perfectly fine. Had I not rented Bee Movie nor bought "Ratatouille" the other day, I would've thought 2.05 was great as well.
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I ordered a refurb 1590 to replace my Panny BD-60. I only got it for Netflix streaming. The BD-60 has worked perfectly but it doesn't have Netflix. I've read this entire thread over the last few days. I have one general question.

What is the most stable firmware so far? I already downloaded 2.05 from Samsung so I'll have it ready when the player arrives. It seems to be hit or miss with what is the most stable. Some here seem to feel 1.04, others 2.05, etc. Should I upgrade to 2.05 and just see how it goes from there?
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