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post #451 of 2547 Old 06-18-2009, 05:57 PM
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So far so good, all the talk of the speed is spot on. This thing is much faster than my PS3 at loading discs of all types!!!!!! Very impressive, BD quality as expected is seems the same doing A/B comparisions but the thing I am most excited about is the DVD upconversion.....very, very good. The JVC softens the standard def picture a bit more than the PS3 but there are alot fewer artifacts and noise. This player is hands down the best bang for the buck HiDef player I've owned so far.

It has been my imoression that the sd dvd image is very natural - a lot of players ramp up contrast and often darken blacks (and crush blacks/eliminate shadow detail) to give a bit more pop to the image. I find the JVC's upscaling very unobtrusive.
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Any problem discs yet?
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Had mine for over a month now and have had no problems with any disc, blu or sd.

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Had mine for over a month now and have had no problems with any disc, blu or sd.

Two weeks here with heavy usage and only have had some non-repeatable problems with disc menu freeze-ups. Both were caused by quick movement with in a BD disc menu and once again were not re-produceable.

Overall, it's been a great performer, but gets warm. I am considering some DIY approach to heat management.
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Two weeks here with heavy usage and only have had some non-repeatable problems with disc menu freeze-ups. Both were caused by quick movement with in a BD disc menu and once again were not re-produceable.


I've run into this behavior a couple times, too. Probably caused by hitting the buttons too quickly - before the menu is completely in memory, maybe. Reminds me a little of clicking on a web page before it's fully loaded - sometimes it's fine, other times you need to "refresh" and try again.
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I've run into this behavior a couple times, too. Probably caused by hitting the buttons too quickly - before the menu is completely in memory, maybe. Reminds me a little of clicking on a web page before it's fully loaded - sometimes it's fine, other times you need to "refresh" and try again.

Agreed. The frozen menus have been cured by soft resets (pressing power button) and re-starting.

On another note, the player's memory for dvds is incredibly impressive. You can take out a dvd and put it back in a week later and it remembers exactly where you were.
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Which audio setting are you all using? I'm sending signals from the JVC to my Denon 3808CI AVR. I had been using multi-channel PCM but today I changed to Passthrough to presumably let the Denon do the decoding. I haven't played anything enough to see if there is a difference and just would like to hear from others.

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Hi fafner, I have the same question. I have tried all audio settings except for the first one, i think pcm stereo and they all seem to work. My receiver decodes the hd audio so I too would like to know also. I am a little confused about bitstream and pcm. I think my older blu ray had a choice of either one where the jvc only has pcm.

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Just realized (after my wife had a movie paused for a while) that the JVC does not have a screensaver unless I am missing something. Might be an issue for us plasma folks.
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Just realized (after my wife had a movie paused for a while) that the JVC does not have a screensaver unless I am missing something. Might be an issue for us plasma folks.

yup same for lcd folks as well, only thing i can say annoys me (very very very small annoyance).

Looks like Jvc will be releasing this player here this year (australia) be a great "b" region option side by side
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yup same for lcd folks as well, only thing i can say annoys me (very very very small annoyance).

Looks like Jvc will be releasing this player here this year (australia) be a great "b" region option side by side

Checked the website - the specs page shows it DOES have a screensaver, but cannot find it for the life of me: http://av.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelI...hId=169&page=3

P 27 of the manual:

Screen Saver
The screen saver appears when you leave the player
in Stop mode for about five minutes. If the Screen
Saver is displayed for five minutes, the unit automatically
turns itself off.
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Checked the website - the specs page shows it DOES have a screensaver, but cannot find it for the life of me: http://av.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelI...hId=169&page=3

P 27 of the manual:

Screen Saver
The screen saver appears when you leave the player
in Stop mode for about five minutes. If the Screen
Saver is displayed for five minutes, the unit automatically
turns itself off.

can someone else test the screen saver kicking in after five - it did not as my wife was watching Bride Wars on BD (groan).
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works in stop mode for me, but its pointless if its only stop not pause as you have to wait for disc to reload again
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works in stop mode for me, but its pointless if its only stop not pause as you have to wait for disc to reload again

I don't believe it works on pause, which as you smartly point, is about as useless as t*ts on a bull
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oh well at least its fast loading, I watched T1 yesterday, a no java disc, no kidding it loaded to the menu in 5 seconds, so cool
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oh well at least its fast loading, I watched T1 yesterday, a no java disc, no kidding it loaded to the menu in 5 seconds, so cool

i know - it embarasses my pioneer 320...still wish i could understand why the zoom works on some discs, but not others
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I will have to be brief here since I am about 5 years to late to the prom. The JVC is an excellent kept secret. Obviously everyone knows of its super fast load times. This is the perfect "community" player meaning you just want something that will load fast and without a fuss. I have thrown about 100 titles at it the past 3 days and everyone loaded. I have also not had any freezes or audio drop outs. The remote is nicely laid out as well.

So how does it compare to the others? As others have reported viewing 1080p/24 movies look excellent. So straight up it is on par with the others. I was even more surprised (even than load times) about how well it does play SD DVDs. We may have to crack this puppy open to see what's inside driving. The only set back is not having any picture adjustments. Without them I can "tweak" the other players and get a more optimal image for my display. But (and this is a big one) this player is good (as some have mentioned before) for an area where picQ is not a major focus. Like a kid's playroom or a living room where speed matters most. For my theater I could not use it and if I were going to use it I would have to break out the black electrical taper for the crazy/bright blue lights. Seriously. JVC loves them. My D-VHS decks had plenty of crazy blue lights that were even more obnoxious!

So in conclusion I can't find anything really bad to say about this player. It will get the job done and lesson complaints from SD DVD users who are used to just hitting play. Kids, GrandMas and inpatient people in between will be very happy with it.

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I will have to be brief here since I am about 5 years to late to the prom. The JVC is an excellent kept secret. Obviously everyone knows of its super fast load times. This is the perfect "community" player meaning you just want something that will load fast and without a fuss. I have thrown about 100 titles at it the past 3 days and everyone loaded. I have also not had any freezes or audio drop outs. The remote is nicely laid out as well.

So how does it compare to the others? As others have reported viewing 1080p/24 movies look excellent. So straight up it is on par with the others. I was even more surprised (even than load times) about how well it does play SD DVDs. We may have to crack this puppy open to see what's inside driving. The only set back is not having any picture adjustments. Without them I can "tweak" the other players and get a more optimal image for my display. But (and this is a big one) this player is good (as some have mentioned before) for an area where picQ is not a major focus. Like a kid's playroom or a living room where speed matters most. For my theater I could not use it and if I were going to use it I would have to break out the black electrical taper for the crazy/bright blue lights. Seriously. JVC loves them. My D-VHS decks had plenty of crazy blue lights that were even more obnoxious!

So in conclusion I can't find anything really bad to say about this player. It will get the job done and lesson complaints from SD DVD users who are used to just hitting play. Kids, GrandMas and inpatient people in between will be very happy with it.

Totally agree with your take - the lacking of weaking, 7.1 analogues, and no dimming of the blue lights do hold this player back. That said, the out of the box performance and speed make this an incredible entry-level player that offers pQ and performance comparable to many players thrice the price.
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Decided to open it up (undid three screws):

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Great work winston!

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Great work winston!

there is another board under the drive itself, but i am chicken to try to get it loose.
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I intend to use the JVC in my main setup connected directly to my display for my wife to use when watching movies and not having to fool with receiver. My only hesitation is the lack (or poor implementation) of the screensaver. Can any one confirm if you PAUSE a movie, will screensaver kick in within 5 minutes? My kuro has some weird handshake issues with the JVC and wonder if this could be preventing the screensaver clock from kicking on. thanks
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there is another board under the drive itself, but i am chicken to try to get it loose.

Don't mess with it. You have done enough.

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So in conclusion I can't find anything really bad to say about this player. It will get the job done and lesson complaints from SD DVD users who are used to just hitting play. Kids, GrandMas and inpatient people in between will be very happy with it.

Well, I am impatient, that's true, but I'm not a kid nor a grandmother (and I don't play one on TV!) I do consider myself at least somewhat of a videophile, and the JVC more than meets my needs and expectations. I get the feeling that this player's low price makes people not want to take it quite as seriously as if it were priced much higher. While it does lack a few features that some people want, the JVC is more than good enough for many serious, critical movie watchers.
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there is another board under the drive itself, but i am chicken to try to get it loose.


Now, if only someone could make sense of all those pix for us

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Why does the OP say that this player supports Divx, but a post on page 4 says that it does not? Does it or doesn't it?

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and tell us how to tweak it!!! there has got to be a way to hack into netflix streaming with the common software b/w it and the lg 390
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and tell us how to tweak it!!! there has got to be a way to hack into netflix streaming with the common software b/w it and the lg 390

Don't mess with a good thing winston.
Thanks for sharing those pics. By the way but I wouldn't "hack" any further.

My bigeest fear now is vendors will start raising the price on these puppies because it's a diamond in the rough. I noticed earlier year after some hype got out about the panny bd 35, it's price seemed to take off like a rocket.
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Should the lack of firmware updates so far (or no talk of them in the future) hold me back from this player? I love that it works great so far for everyone, and I'm not the type to sit around and think "there has to be something wrong with this". I just don't want to run into any future "BD upgrades" and be stuck with a unit that won't support it. Overall, my impressions of this player are very high and I'm eager to have a standalone player to offset the use of my PS3. Thanks!
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