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"X-Men: Days of Future Past": watched this the other evening in its entirety via my S1000es <> Yamaha RX-V3900. It played perfectly and it is a terrific title!
The more I read in the Oppo threads . . the more I appreciate my Sony BDP-S1000ES . .

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Not to rain on anyone's parade, but ever since Sony put that root kit on some discs and then when caught, lied about it, I have been reluctant to reward them with any of my money. Just my personal opinion.
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Not to rain on anyone's parade, but ever since Sony put that root kit on some discs and then when caught, lied about it, I have been reluctant to reward them with any of my money. Just my personal opinion.
I also detest Sony's obsession with drm . . but I find their optical media ce equipment to be excellent.

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Watched "Expendables 3" last evening via my Sony BDP-S1000ES & Yamaha RX-V3900.
I chose the extended version and "Dolby Atmos" for audio bitstreaming over hdmi. The receiver lit up the Dolby TrueHD + 7.1 channels indicator lights and played perfectly. I assume this is how it is supposed to work since the receiver is not Dolby Atmos capable. The audio was terrific . . not a single audio dropout others seem to experience with some equipment.

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Watched "Expendables 3" last evening via my Sony BDP-S1000ES & Yamaha RX-V3900.
I chose the extended version and "Dolby Atmos" for audio bitstreaming over hdmi. The receiver lit up the Dolby TrueHD + 7.1 channels indicator lights and played perfectly. I assume this is how it is supposed to work since the receiver is not Dolby Atmos capable. The audio was terrific . . not a single audio dropout others seem to experience with some equipment.
Yup. Sony BD players have no problems with "Seamless Branching". (After all, Sony was responsible for most of the BD standard.) Some older stand-alone BD players from other companies lack that feature. Until recently it was missing from most computer media player software, too.

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Yup. Sony BD players have no problems with "Seamless Branching". (After all, Sony was responsible for most of the BD standard.) Some older stand-alone BD players from other companies lack that feature. Until recently it was missing from most computer media player software, too.
It's fun to read Oppo threads in here:
. first the Oppo club wants to blame/sue Fox because Oppo had to fix their firmware to permit a longer minimum load time for newer BD+ nonsense
. now I'm reading they blame Dolby because some Oppo models can't deal with seamless branching on Dolby TrueHD or Atmos titles.

ALL my older Sony & Panasonic models handle both of those situations perfectly fine without even a firmware update.

Maybe they should direct their ire at Oppo?

How I surely do love my Sony S1000ES, S350, S550 & my Panny 55!!

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Does anyone know if the BDP-S1000ES AV Sync (audio delay) works on the coaxial output?

I'm planning to move the BDP-S1000ES from the main 5.1 system to secondary 2.0 system. I plan to connect the coaxial output to a DAC, assuming I can delay the audio to sync with the TV's video (connected via HDMI).

With my current 2.0 system BR player, audio is ahead of video if I connect this way, due to the TV's video processing lag. I have to run optical from the TV to the DAC to have sync'd audio and video.

I'm hoping that the BDP-S1000ES AV sync will allow me to delay audio over coaxial, so that I can make a direct connection to the DAC vs. running optical from the TV to DAC.
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Mine still working BTW! Very high quality unit although the need for it has shrunk as I am sticking all my disks in books and throwing away the covers.

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Sony BDP AV Sync over HDMI and SPDIF?

Posted this question in the BDP-1000ES thread, but no replies.

Does anyone know if AV Sync on the BDP-1000ES (and current models with AV Sync) works over HDMI and SPDIF?

Hoping I can use AV Sync on a BDP-1000ES to delay audio from SPDIF to a 2-channel DAC in a 2.0 AV system. I'd rather go direct from BDP to DAC vs. the using the TV's optical for BDP audio.
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I played the new Mockingjay blu-ray (Region A retail) last night. It played perfectly streaming the Dolby TrueHD to my Yamaha RX-V3900 - no audio dropouts.

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Tried Sony's support chat for this question - that was a waste of time.

Since the manual does not indicate that AV Sync is specific to certain audio output connections, guess I'll just rip it out of the main system, put it in the secondary system, and give it a shot.
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Verified that AV Sync does work with the coaxial audio output.

At first, I tried to adjust the AV sync to have the audio from the 2.0 system match the audio from the TV speakers. This did not work, I’m guessing due to the audio delay being applied to both the HDMI and coaxial, and perhaps a preset amount of audio delay that the TV applies to keep its audio and video in sync. In other words, it seemed like the amount of audio timing difference between the 2.0 system and TV speakers stayed constant as I adjusted the AV sync.

So, I manually adjusted the AV sync to have the 2.0 system’s audio sync with video. It’s probably not perfect, so I think I will get a bluray with the AV sync test to fine tune a bit.

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I just got the Panasonic BDT500 in today.
I got a Sony S1000ES last month.
Ive had a Sony S790 since February
I had a Panasonic BDT 220 since January (but went through 2, just sold the 2nd one couple weeks ago)

I really liked the Panasonic BDT220s...excepting the App navigation was kind of sluggish. But that really didnt bother me. I mostly use a Roku anyways. The thing that I didnt like about either of these 2 units was that they didnt play scratched or imperfect Blu Ray discs very well. I got a second unit trying to see if some variation in the manufacture, I just got a less able unit with regards to scratched discs, but they were almost identical in their playback of the test discs I have here for that purpose.

The Sony S790 has been a joy, I love everything about it. It's fast menu navigation and fast rewind/ff. Quick start up and loading. Im not a big fan of the crossbar navigation menus but it's OK. Streaming works well. I really like this unit. Blows through every scratched test disc I have.

I picked up a Sony S1000ES about a month ago and havent had that much time with it. Im trying to understand Super Bit Mapping (which apparently the S790 has as well) and the HD Reality Enhancer (is this like the Darby Darblet?) This one has analog 7.1 outputs like the Panny BDT500. It's quite a bit slower with regard to start up and load times. But the PQ is great. (also has a 1/4" headphone jack). I havent tested this with scratched discs yet.

The Panasonic BDT 500 arrived via mail today. Hooked it up and watching it now. Im hoping it will play scratched discs better than the BDT220s...but it likely has the same optical drive. We'll see. This remote's trackpad is awful and Ill probably pick up a BDT220 remote to use in it's stead. Im not seeing any more zip to this thing than the BDT220s had, either. Im pretty sure this uses the same Uniphier chipset as the BDT220s..but I read somewhere it has a dual core processor.

Any tips or info is appreciated.

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A few notes.

I dont mess with 3D too much. It's not that big of concern.
I dont run multichannel audio system, stereo or 2.1 max.
I dont really play SACD or DVD-A though might play around with it sometime.
I require Stereo Analog Audio outputs, as I used vintage Recievers. (some newer machines lack them)
I do like CD upsampling.

So as you can see, the Panny BDT-220 was probably enough machine for me...barring the issue with imperfect scratched disc playback. The 2 Stereo Analog outs on the S790 are adequate for my needs.

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I just got the Panasonic BDT500 in today.
I got a Sony S1000ES last month.
Ive had a Sony S790 since February
I had a Panasonic BDT 220 since January (but went through 2, just sold the 2nd one couple weeks ago)

I really liked the Panasonic BDT220s...excepting the App navigation was kind of sluggish. But that really didnt bother me. I mostly use a Roku anyways. The thing that I didnt like about either of these 2 units was that they didnt play scratched or imperfect Blu Ray discs very well. I got a second unit trying to see if some variation in the manufacture, I just got a less able unit with regards to scratched discs, but they were almost identical in their playback of the test discs I have here for that purpose.

The Sony S790 has been a joy, I love everything about it. It's fast menu navigation and fast rewind/ff. Quick start up and loading. Im not a big fan of the crossbar navigation menus but it's OK. Streaming works well. I really like this unit.

I picked up a Sony S1000ES about a month ago and havent had that much time with it. Im trying to understand Super Bit Mapping (which apparently the S790 has as well) and the HD Reality Enhancer (is this like the Darby Darblet?) This one has analog 7.1 outputs like the Panny BDT500. It's quite a bit slower with regard to start up and load times. But the PQ is great. (also has a 1/4" headphone jack). I havent tested this with scratched discs yet.

The Panasonic BDT 500 arrived via mail today. Hooked it up and watching it now. Im hoping it will play scratched discs better than the BDT220s...but it likely has the same optical drive. We'll see. This remote's trackpad is awful and Ill probably pick up a BDT220 remote to use in it's stead. Im not seeing any more zip to this thing than the BDT220s had, either. Im pretty sure this uses the same Uniphier chipset as the BDT220s..but I read somewhere it has a dual core processor.

Any tips or info is appreciated.
I wish I new what it did as well. I have used it a few times, it removed some graininess from Jaws blu ray. When I had my XBR 960 , I turned on smooth all the way up & it added a slight dejudder effect ( to some scene's ), like on Skyfall when Bond is standing on the boat at night.
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I just got the Panasonic BDT500 in today.
I got a Sony S1000ES last month.
Ive had a Sony S790 since February
I had a Panasonic BDT 220 since January (but went through 2, just sold the 2nd one couple weeks ago)



I picked up a Sony S1000ES about a month ago and havent had that much time with it. Im trying to understand Super Bit Mapping (which apparently the S790 has as well) and the HD Reality Enhancer (is this like the Darby Darblet?) This one has analog 7.1 outputs like the Panny BDT500. It's quite a bit slower with regard to start up and load times. But the PQ is great. (also has a 1/4" headphone jack). I havent tested this with scratched discs yet.


Any tips or info is appreciated.
Detailed review of the Sony 1000ES here (called the 'BDP-S760' in Europe)...

https://www.avforums.com/review/sony...yer-review.100
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Thanks for the link to the in depth review covering image processing controls on the Sony S1000ES. Very helpful.
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Im probably gonna sell the Sony S1000ES and the Panny BDT500.

Both have fantastic features and quality audio and video playback.

The Sony S790 just is a bit quicker all around. And I dont need or want multi-channel analog outputs.

Im gonna pick up an LG BD730 to check out LG's OS and Magic Remote.

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Looks good for my next upgrade.
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Im gonna test the Sony S1000ES and the Panasonic BDT500 with the scratched library Blu Ray disc. How to Train a Dragon, tonight. Report back later.

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So I tested the S1000ES unit that I have for playback of my How to Train a Dragon scratched Blu Ray disc and it did slightly better than the Panasonic BDT500 and both BDT220s (all of which did about the same). The Sony S790 that I have plays the disc clean through with no hiccups...clearly superior to all these others in this regards.

Due to variation of manufacture and handling, you mileage may vary.

Ill probably be selling this S1000ES, although it's very nice...I dont need this many Blu Ray Players. Ill also be selling the Panasonic BDT500. Both are in excellent condition in box with original documentation...low hours.

Ill probably pick up another Panasonic BDT220 for a spare.

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