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What best setting on my 3800 do you want me to use to come up with best quality musical sound?
I would say start with Pure Direct (analog stereo).
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WestCoastD, Did you need to do "picture adjust" corrections to your Denon 3930 and 3800? Did you use component or HDMI?
yeah, I played around a little with a few of the detailed adjustments (can remember) on both players (mostly adjusting Setup Level = 7.5. I believe?), seems to yield the best contrast ratio, at least for my Pioneer Elite PDP-4200HD Kuro display. I use HDMI for video for all my players.
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I am running in my Lyr headamp now and the difference is startling. The highs were overly sharp, and the sound.. sounded brittle. It's now abt 120+ hours and I took time to listen to the song at various hours. Definitely a big difference.
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I have questions to you who own denon players connected to denon avr via denon link such as 2930, 3910 , 3930 and 4010. Do you think there is really a big difference in thier musical quality sounds when playing CD via Denon Link? The reason why I am asking is because I really, really, really want to make sure that my hard earned money is really worth spending on my next player. Please reply.
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I have questions to you who own denon players connected to denon avr via denon link such as 2930, 3910 , 3930 and 4010. Do you think there is really a big difference in thier musical quality sounds when playing CD via Denon Link? The reason why I am asking is because I really, really, really want to make sure that my hard earned money is really worth spending on my next player. Please reply.

I have a Denon 3930, and a Denon AVR. I have been using the 3930 via analog 2CH and MCH only. I didn't even hook up HDMI, I use component for video as HDMI handshake issues cause problems in the older Denon players. The 3930 kicks my Oppo 83SE so bad, with DVD, DVD-A, SACD, and Rebook CD. Not even close in sound, way better center channel, and surrounds are way more open in the 3930. Over all, the speakers are very transparent, music comes from everywhere in my room. My wife calls it a wall of sound, with very distinct separation with Dolby Surround and DTS. So much so, I was considering the Oppo 95, and ordered a Denon 4010 instead, as I don't need 3D ever, or streaming from my PC. I plan on using Analog only on the 4010, in my room it should be better than the 3930. I put my Oppo 83SE for sale yesterday, and I sold it already, it won't be missed. The sound of the 83SE was good, good detail but way too two dimensional in my opinion (analog outs). The Denon 3930 had a better soundstage, higher and wider than the 83SE. 3930 has better clarity on the center channel and surrounds, the surrounds completed the transition from front to back, and for some reason with balanced speaker setting from the MCH on 83SE and 3930, the 3930 opened up the surround sound. With the 3930, MCH was just coming from all over the room, the speakers just disappeared. So, I shipped my 83SE today, the Denon 4010 will be here on Thursday. I will use my 3930 for 2CH Analog only, and the Denon 4010 for MCH Analog only, at least for now. I had the 83SE for two years, and I purchased a like new Denon 3930 three weeks ago. Can not believe the difference in sound quality with the 3930. Even with the problems listed about the Denon players, for the price I paid, and a Denon Service Center only an hour away I am confident with my decisions. I have checked the 3930 firmware release, very current, and laser current for DVD and CD laser assemblies, and the current is reading very low, 5% above new on CD laser and 10% above new on the DVD laser. Laser current is an indication of the life of the laser assembly before failure. Failure is current 150% of the unit when it was new. Laser assembly failure is the main problem with Denon players, from what I have read on these forums. You should get even better results with your Denon AVR and DL4, my Denon AVR does not support DL4, but that is on my short list for my next purchase.
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I have questions to you who own denon players connected to denon avr via denon link such as 2930, 3910 , 3930 and 4010. Do you think there is really a big difference in thier musical quality sounds when playing CD via Denon Link? The reason why I am asking is because I really, really, really want to make sure that my hard earned money is really worth spending on my next player. Please reply.

Use mine with a Denon 3808. Denon Link 3 sounds fantastic. Wish I had a more current receiver to reap the benefits of the DL4. But regardless, I am extremely happy with the sound quality that my 4010 produces.

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I've burned some BD-R and BD-RE of blu-ray compliant home movies authored in Adobe Premiere Pro. They play fine on my HTPC but when I put them in the Denon 4010 they all come up with "NO DISC". I even tried copying a blu-ray that I own and still it does not work. I'm using imgburn to burn the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders, I have a Pioneer BDR-205. Media I have tried include TDK 50GB BD-RE, Panasonic BD-R 50GB and Sony BD-R 50GB.

Anyone know of any problem with recordable media in the Denon 4010? I note that in the user manual it doesn't say whether it plays BD-R or BD-RE. I also know some people can successfully play BD-R.

Can anyone guide me through troubleshooting?

Thanks.

My post got lost in another discussion, is it better to post a separate topic or if it's 4010 related should just leave it here? Thanks.
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I have questions to you who own denon players connected to denon avr via denon link such as 2930, 3910 , 3930 and 4010. Do you think there is really a big difference in thier musical quality sounds when playing CD via Denon Link? The reason why I am asking is because I really, really, really want to make sure that my hard earned money is really worth spending on my next player. Please reply.

I have used a 2930 with denon 4308 avr, and denon 4010 with denon avp. And with both using with denon link is really worth it. The main reason for buying these players in my opinion

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I have used a 2930 with denon 4308 avr, and denon 4010 with denon avp. And with both using with denon link is really worth it. The main reason for buying these players in my opinion
I have 3910 and 2930. Both of them are connected to my 5308 via DLink ( alternately ). Using my taste of hearing, these two players produce the same musical sound quality. What about you? Do you sometimes hear that you 2930 and your new 4010 produce the same sound quality? If I am right in my opinion, then there is no need to buy 4010. Am I right? Please reply.
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I have 3910 and 2930. Both of them are connected to my 5308 via DLink ( alternately ). Using my taste of hearing, these two players produce the same musical sound quality. What about you? Do you sometimes hear that you 2930 and your new 4010 produce the same sound quality? If I am right in my opinion, then there is no need to buy 4010. Am I right? Please reply.

I doubt there is anything between a 2930/3910/4010 for CD/DVD/SACD/DVDA as they all utilise DL for clock control. where the 4010 comes in is as a blu-ray universal. so get DL clock control for blu-ray as well. there there is without doubt to me having fallen back on the lovely sony 5000es that the DL4 is worth going for, its what miss the most about the 4010

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To all who use 3800bdci,

My system ( 5308 connected to 3800 ) shows audio sync problem, audio first followed by video. Do you think this problem is caused by my new samsung UN55C8000 series? or I really need to adjust the audio sync on either player (3800 ) or on my 5308 to resolve the issue of audio sync? This problem never occurs until I started using my two month old LED TV.

Does anybody here have the idea on how to resolve this irritating pain without adjusting the audio sync level on any of my devices? That's also the reason why I placed order for 4010
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Got my Denon 4010UDCI delivered this morning. After having a Denon 3930 for the last month, setup on the 4010 only took about a half hour. For the last four hours I have been listening and doing A/B listening between the 3930 and the 4010. First of all, I am using all analog for sound, 2CH and MCH. HDMI for video, but when listening to music, I turn off digital processing and video. I "can not believe it", the sound is much better than the 3930. I was expecting both to sound exactly the same. I even had my wife listen to the A/B, and she could tell when I was playing the 4010, both CD's were copies of the same disk. I am listening to a Mark Knopfler DVD-A, and I have more air and detail in the 4010 than I had in the 3930. Initial DVD was "Ratatouille", one of my favorite movie sound tracks, I have it in both DVD and BluRay. The sound on the center and surround channels is way more open and detailed than my Oppo 83SE, sold the Oppo two days ago.

Very happy with my purchase! The only thing, it is slow loading discs, but, wow is it worth the wait. Glad I got this instead of the Oppo 95, as people that listened to the 95 2CH analog said it was about the same as the 83SE. I was going to keep my Denon 3930 for 2CH analog listening, but I think I would be safe to sell it and use the 4010 for all my music and HT!
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I doubt there is anything between a 2930/3910/4010 for CD/DVD/SACD/DVDA as they all utilise DL for clock control. where the 4010 comes in is as a blu-ray universal. so get DL clock control for blu-ray as well. there there is without doubt to me having fallen back on the lovely sony 5000es that the DL4 is worth going for, its what miss the most about the 4010

I did a bit of research on the use of Denon Link with blu-ray, and it only works on uncompressed PCM soundtracks, standard DD and DTS, but NOT Dolby TrueHD or DTS Master Audio. That killed my interest in the 4010, but if you still listen to a lot of music on CD / SACD, and you have a Denon AVR that accepts DL, it could be a good choice.
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I did a bit of research on the use of Denon Link with blu-ray, and it only works on uncompressed PCM soundtracks, standard DD and DTS, but NOT Dolby TrueHD or DTS Master Audio. That killed my interest in the 4010, but if you still listen to a lot of music on CD / SACD, and you have a Denon AVR that accepts DL, it could be a good choice.

You need to have DL4 support on both ends, 4010 and AVR for Dolby TrueHD and DTS-MA.
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You need to have DL4 support on both ends, 4010 and AVR for Dolby TrueHD and DTS-MA.

That's not my understanding of the situation.

Below is a short review of the DVD-A1UDCI and interview with Jeff Talmadge of Denon about DL4 functionality:

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/t...non-dvd-a1udci

Question #6: Does Dlink4 also improve TrueHD and DTS HD or just DVD-A/SACD and CD?

Jeff T.: No HD, but every other format, yes
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I am very excited to have my 4010. For the meantime, I want to show you my homemade Home Theater. I built all the cabinets you see on these pics.
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That's not my understanding of the situation.

Below is a short review of the DVD-A1UDCI and interview with Jeff Talmadge of Denon about DL4 functionality:

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/t...non-dvd-a1udci

Question #6: Does Dlink4 also improve TrueHD and DTS HD or just DVD-A/SACD and CD?

Jeff T.: No HD, but every other format, yes

The review you reference is dated December 5, 2008, before the Denon 4010 was even released. Don't know about the validity as it pertains to the current Denon 4010. I was just going by my 4010 manual! I am all analog, which sounds better anyway, plus nothing is digitized. DL4 is digital, HDMI and DL cable. The Denon 4010 is a huge improvment on the 3930, and Oppo 83SE, it has exceeded my expectations totally!
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I am very excited to have my 4010. For the meantime, I want to show you my homemade Home Theater. I built all the cabinets you see on these pics.

Nice setup! The 4010 will fit right in with the rest of the boys!
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plus nothing is digitized.

That implies that if you use the digital outputs from the player, that it's converting analog to digital in the process.

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DL4 is digital, HDMI and DL cable.

Of course it's digital - it's about choosing whether the conversion to analog is best done in the player or in the AVR/AVP depending on your specific system configuration and needs.
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Nice setup! The 4010 will fit right in with the rest of the boys!

Thank you for your complement. I don't know what my set up will be after my 5308 upgrade in october.
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The review you reference is dated December 5, 2008, before the Denon 4010 was even released. Don't know about the validity as it pertains to the current Denon 4010. I was just going by my 4010 manual! I am all analog, which sounds better anyway, plus nothing is digitized. DL4 is digital, HDMI and DL cable. The Denon 4010 is a huge improvment on the 3930, and Oppo 83SE, it has exceeded my expectations totally!

Even though the 4010 was released after the introduction of DL4, the specs for DL4 have not changed. Not that it matters with your use of the player, but for those of us that have a Denon AVR (or prepro) with DL4, and plan to use the digital output of the player, it is important to know the limitations of DL4. I've read the 4010 manual and it is ambiguous about the affect of DL4 clock synching of HD audio signals, so I dug deeper. I found a few discussions from owners that DL4 only works with PCM signals and standard surround signals, which was later confirmed by that statement I posted from Jeff T. with Denon.

I have no interest in the analog performance of the 4010 because my Denon AVR-5308 uses the same Burr Brown 1796 DACs (as found in the 4010) in dual differential mode on all 12 channels.

BTW - whether you connect the 4010 via analog or digital to your AVR, the signal is not "digitized" by the player in either case. For something to be digitized, it first has to be an analog signal.
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there is without doubt to me having fallen back on the lovely sony 5000es that the DL4 is worth going for, its what miss the most about the 4010

are you referring to the Sony BDP-S 5000ES? Are you comparing 2ch analog or HDMI of Sony to DL4 of DBP-4010UDCI?
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Got my Denon 4010UDCI. When listening to music, I turn off digital processing and video. I "can not believe it", the sound is much better than the 3930. I have more air and detail in the 4010 than I had in the 3930. Very happy with my purchase! The only thing, it is slow loading discs, but, wow is it worth the wait. Glad I got this instead of the Oppo 95, as people that listened to the 95 2CH analog said it was about the same as the 83SE. I was going to keep my Denon 3930 for 2CH analog listening, but I think I would be safe to sell it and use the 4010 for all my music and HT!

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Hey Guys, Check this out!

This website below says that 4010 is discontinued.


http://www.crutchfield.com/s_033DBP4...ON+4010&tp=171
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I did a bit of research on the use of Denon Link with blu-ray, and it only works on uncompressed PCM soundtracks, standard DD and DTS, but NOT Dolby TrueHD or DTS Master Audio. That killed my interest in the 4010, but if you still listen to a lot of music on CD / SACD, and you have a Denon AVR that accepts DL, it could be a good choice.

not true at all, I can confirm with one year of ownership of this player that dL4 with clock control works for all formats on the 4010. and very much so with dolby truehd and dts MA even when bitstreaming. It basically covers CD/SACD/DVD/DVDA & Blu-ray (All sound formats)

http://denon.custhelp.com/app/answer...k-4th-features

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are you referring to the Sony BDP-S 5000ES? Are you comparing 2ch analog or HDMI of Sony to DL4 of DBP-4010UDCI?

yes is player am using now. and my comment on comparisons were over hdmi from sony vs DL4 of the 4010. as far as analog. the sony is a better player over analog. thats no doubt due to better analog stage and power supplies. both have very good dac implementations. the sonys is exemplary, its a real pity as a player that wasnt continued.

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What is happening now to denon 4010? How come that this unit is discontinued as stated on the website below? This machine was just introduced before the end of 2009 and yet now it appears that it is discontinued. I am vacillating now whether to cancel my order or let it go. What do you think, guys?

http://www.crutchfield.com/s_033DBP4...ON+4010&tp=171
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You need to have DL4 support on both ends, 4010 and AVR for Dolby TrueHD and DTS-MA.

not only do you need this but your display also needs to have CEC HDMI control capability, ie if you have pio kuro it needs to have kuro link and you need to switch it on. same if you have a projector or whatever. need to keep in mind the audio itself is still send over hdmi. it is the clock signal thats sent over denon link

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What is happening now to denon 4010? How come that this unit is discontinued as stated on the website below? This machine was just introduced before the end of 2009 and yet now it appears that it is discontinued. I am vacillating now whether to cancel my order or let it go. What do you think, guys?

http://www.crutchfield.com/s_033DBP4...ON+4010&tp=171

are you suprised really, I think if you look back people including myself have said to look out for what is coming. its no suprise the 4010 is selling at a bargain price is it ? need to keep in mind the next model if there is to be one will have no doubt hdmi v1.4 3D capability etc to keep up with the jones'

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Got my Denon 4010UDCI delivered this morning. After having a Denon 3930 for the last month, setup on the 4010 only took about a half hour. For the last four hours I have been listening and doing A/B listening between the 3930 and the 4010. First of all, I am using all analog for sound, 2CH and MCH. HDMI for video, but when listening to music, I turn off digital processing and video. I "can not believe it", the sound is much better than the 3930. I was expecting both to sound exactly the same. I even had my wife listen to the A/B, and she could tell when I was playing the 4010, both CD's were copies of the same disk. I am listening to a Mark Knopfler DVD-A, and I have more air and detail in the 4010 than I had in the 3930. Initial DVD was "Ratatouille", one of my favorite movie sound tracks, I have it in both DVD and BluRay. The sound on the center and surround channels is way more open and detailed than my Oppo 83SE, sold the Oppo two days ago.

Very happy with my purchase! The only thing, it is slow loading discs, but, wow is it worth the wait. Glad I got this instead of the Oppo 95, as people that listened to the 95 2CH analog said it was about the same as the 83SE. I was going to keep my Denon 3930 for 2CH analog listening, but I think I would be safe to sell it and use the 4010 for all my music and HT!

congrats ! and good to hear your enjoying it yeah not the fastest of loaders but really not much in it. be sure to activate quick start mode on it, massively speeds up the boot time on the machine. In my system it would be on and ready as fast as any of my other gear took to switch on. which is pretty amazing for a BD player.

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