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I was in Best Buy tonight and they had about 30 N460's for sale - $199.00. I am in the market for a new blu ray player and like the features on this model. How is the image and sound quality? My main beef is a small one - no eject button on the remote! Would those of you who have the N460 buy it again or wait until the new S570 comes out in March? Thanks.

I have the 460 and love it but will return it to Costco and get the 570 for almost the same price. The eject is no issue if you have a Harmony remote. I think the 570 will be available in 2 weeks. BTW, the 570 does have the eject on the remote.

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Does Costco have the 570 already?

No, I think they will get the 470 soon but I doubt they will have the 570. I can return my 460 for cash and order a 570 from Amazon.

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If you don't mind, how much is the 570 from Amazon?

249. You can go to Amazon.com and do a search for Sony BDP-S570. It's available for pre-order. The 470 is 199.00. We can't talk about prices here unless it's MSRP, which is the case with those that I mentioned.

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Does Costco have the 570 already?

According to Amazon, the 570 will be released on March 9th and the 470 will be released on March 16. I am pretty much settled on the 570 since it has WiFi, unless the LG BD570 gets better reviews.
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According to Amazon, the 570 will be released on March 9th and the 470 will be released on March 16. I am pretty much settled on the 570 since it has WiFi, unless the LG BD570 gets better reviews.

Tough call. The LG BD570 will get good reviews since it's basically a BD390 with better Netflix. The Sony S570 will be 3D ready and , although I know I won't have a 3D TV for a while, it's good to have at no additiona cost. The DLNA implementation on the LG is well known and works with almost all kind of files I have. The sony DLNA is unknown, can be good or just "basic". Picture quality will probably be a wash but I still have few SACDs disks and that's why I will go with the Sony.

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Tough call. The LG BD570 will get good reviews since it's basically a BD390 with better Netflix. The Sony S570 will be 3D ready and , although I know I won't have a 3D TV for a while, it's good to have at no additiona cost. The DLNA implementation on the LG is well known and works with almost all kind of files I have. The sony DLNA is unknown, can be good or just "basic". Picture quality will probably be a wash but I still have few SACDs disks and that's why I will go with the Sony.

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Hello,
I have the N460 player connected to a Pioneer 9040 receiver over HDMI. The audio setting is HDMI=auto (vs. PCM). The sound for audio CDs, SD commercial DVDs, SD camcorder DVDs, BluRay (hd audio), Amazon Watch Now all work except for Netflix.

Netflix audio works only when the player audio is set to PCM.

(Other settings: hdmi=auto, BD audio=direct, dolby digitial = dd, dts= dts, downmix - normal).

I have noticed (in this thread) some other users have come across this issue where there is no sound for Netflix over HDMI (w/auto setting), but have not seen a solution.

Is there a way to get the Netflix audio to work when HDMI is set to Auto (instead of PCM). (this way, I do not have to keep flipping this bit depending on what I am watching).

Alternately will this player output component and HDMI video at the same time? (i.e intend use component + analog audio connected to a different input in the receiver for Netflix use).

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I have the N460 player connected to a Pioneer 9040 receiver over HDMI. The audio setting is HDMI=auto (vs. PCM). The sound for audio CDs, SD commercial DVDs, SD camcorder DVDs, BluRay (hd audio), Amazon Watch Now all work except for Netflix.

Netflix audio works only when the player audio is set to PCM.

(Other settings: hdmi=auto, BD audio=direct, dolby digitial = dd, dts= dts, downmix - normal).

I have noticed (in this thread) some other users have come across this issue where there is no sound for Netflix over HDMI (w/auto setting), but have not seen a solution.

Is there a way to get the Netflix audio to work when HDMI is set to Auto (instead of PCM). (this way, I do not have to keep flipping this bit depending on what I am watching).

Alternately will this player output component and HDMI video at the same time? (i.e intend use component + analog audio connected to a different input in the receiver for Netflix use).

Thanks.

I'm one of the guys with the same problem and also have a Pioneer receiver (VSX-94THX). There is no way I can get Netflix audio with AUTO. You actually don't need the components, since the video is always fine. You can just plug the analog audio and select "analog" on the Pio signal select. Components will output but I think at 480i/p only when HDMI is in use (not sure). BTW, Netflix is not the only one that has no audio with "auto" : 2 or 3 of those internet feed are also mute , although most of them work.

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BDP-S570 showing "in stock" now at Sonystyle.

also you can now download the manuals for both S470 and S570. In the specs section they don't say the hdmi level. It seems like the difference between the two is 570 has builtin wireless and 1gb memory (and parental control)?
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It seems like the difference between the two is 570 has builtin wireless and 1gb memory (and parental control)?

There is something called "IP noise rediction" on the 570 , not sure how useful it can be. If you look at the manuals, there is no mention of DLNA at all and there is no DLNA logo on the first pages. Press releases and features descriptions mention DLNA but it's not clear how "basic" will be the implementation. I wish we have the same unctionality found on the LG 390 to play different file formats from a PC. I'm curious to see what PS3 Media Server can do with the 470/570, if anything.

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There is something called "IP noise rediction" on the 570 , not sure how useful it can be. If you look at the manuals, there is no mention of DLNA at all and there is no DLNA logo on the first pages. Press releases and features descriptions mention DLNA but it's not clear how "basic" will be the implementation. I wish we have the same unctionality found on the LG 390 to play different file formats from a PC. I'm curious to see what PS3 Media Server can do with the 470/570, if anything.

I just setup "Wild Media Server" with my Sony XBR TV (with DLNA) and it is streaming all kinds of video formats just fine, as well as MP3 and photos. Not sure if WMS would also work with the new BD players, but assuming the DLNA implementation is the same as the Sony TVs, I would think it should.
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I'm one of the guys with the same problem and also have a Pioneer receiver (VSX-94THX). There is no way I can get Netflix audio with AUTO. You actually don't need the components, since the video is always fine. You can just plug the analog audio and select "analog" on the Pio signal select. Components will output but I think at 480i/p only when HDMI is in use (not sure). BTW, Netflix is not the only one that has no audio with "auto" : 2 or 3 of those internet feed are also mute , although most of them work.

Thanks for the tip just using the analog audio. Will try that option.
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What's the difference between the 460 and the 470 besides 3D? Will the 460's price drop once the 470s are out? What about the 470 and the 570? Wireless? I guess I should wait until March regardless. I currently have a 350, but want netflix streaming.

BTW how is the dvd upconversion on the 460 compared to the 350?
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What's the difference between the 460 and the 470 besides 3D? Will the 460's price drop once the 470s are out? What about the 470 and the 570? Wireless? I guess I should wait until March regardless. I currently have a 350, but want netflix streaming.

BTW how is the dvd upconversion on the 460 compared to the 350?

I think it's silly to get a 460 now if you can buy the 470 for the same price. Besides the 3D (I don't care) , the 470 is DLNA complaint. It's nice to be able to stream video from your PC, although I don't know how well it will do it. The 570 is shipping now from Sonystyle and you get the wireless N, basically. The 370 is like the 470 without the 3D upgrade in July.

I think the DVD upconversion on the 460 is fine, not the greatest but pretty good.

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I think it's silly to get a 460 now if you can buy the 470 for the same price. Besides the 3D (I don't care) , the 470 is DLNA complaint. It's nice to be able to stream video from your PC, although I don't know how well it will do it. The 570 is shipping now from Sonystyle and you get the wireless N, basically. The 370 is like the 470 without the 3D upgrade in July.

I think the DVD upconversion on the 460 is fine, not the greatest but pretty good.

Yeah after reading the last few pages, I've decided to hold off until the 2010 models are out. I don't really need wireless, It'll be hard wired in. All I need is good SD upconversion, lossless audio, and netflix. I just bought a new tv, so I won't be upgrading to 3d anytime soon.

So there's no really difference between the 370 and 470? Just 3D?
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Yeah after reading the last few pages, I've decided to hold off until the 2010 models are out. I don't really need wireless, It'll be hard wired in. All I need is good SD upconversion, lossless audio, and netflix. I just bought a new tv, so I won't be upgrading to 3d anytime soon.

So there's no really difference between the 370 and 470? Just 3D?


I just received the S370 today. I am also not interested in 3D at all so there was no point for me to get the S470. I haven't hook it up yet because I am still at work, but I opened up the box and my first impression was the player is SUPER SLIM. The player looks like a regular DVD player from today. I can also confirm the remote has an eject button. Sony finally wised up....I'll report back later with more info...
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I just received the S370 today. I am also not interested in 3D at all so there was no point for me to get the S470. I haven't hook it up yet because I am still at work, but I opened up the box and my first impression was the player is SUPER SLIM. The player looks like a regular DVD player from today. I can also confirm the remote has an eject button. Sony finally wised up....I'll report back later with more info...

Dang it, my N460 is still in the box brand new. Doubt I can return it to Newegg. Well I probably could but wouldn't be worth the return shipping. Oh well. Didn't really need the 3D and other stuff of the newer players.
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I just received the S370 today. I am also not interested in 3D at all so there was no point for me to get the S470. I haven't hook it up yet because I am still at work, but I opened up the box and my first impression was the player is SUPER SLIM. The player looks like a regular DVD player from today. I can also confirm the remote has an eject button. Sony finally wised up....I'll report back later with more info...

Where did you order it from? So the only difference is that fact the 470 is 3D and the 470 isn't? There's only a $20 difference.
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Where did you order it from? So the only difference is that fact the 470 is 3D and the 470 isn't? There's only a $20 difference.


I bought it from Sony Style web site. They have them in stock. The only difference between the S370 and the S470 is the 3D option and a $20.00 difference. The S370 is also slimmer then S470. Since I like slimmer better, I went with the S370. I don't care for 3D.
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I bought it from Sony Style web site. They have them in stock. The only difference between the S370 and the S470 is the 3D option and a $20.00 difference. The S370 is also slimmer then S470. Since I like slimmer better, I went with the S370. I don't care for 3D.

Can a regular HDTV also play 3D movies or will you have to purchase a special 3D capable TV?
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I just received the S370 today. I am also not interested in 3D at all so there was no point for me to get the S470. I haven't hook it up yet because I am still at work, but I opened up the box and my first impression was the player is SUPER SLIM. The player looks like a regular DVD player from today. I can also confirm the remote has an eject button. Sony finally wised up....I'll report back later with more info...

Please offer us a brief review of your experience with the S370 after you have watched some bluray movies with it. You will do us all a good service. Thanks!
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Can a regular HDTV also play 3D movies or will you have to purchase a special 3D capable TV?



You will need to buy a new 3D ready LCD.
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You will need to buy a new 3D ready LCD.

Well, chuck that! I just bought a brand new Samsung 40" LCD that I expect to arrive tomorrow, so I will certainly not be going out and buying another TV anytime soon. Bottom line: I will not need a bluray player that has 3D capability. The same can be said for most people, I think. 3D capable bluray players seem to be all the rage, but how many people have 3D capable TV's to play them on? And who is going to run out and buy a new TV when the one they have works just fine? So all I need now is a WiFi capable bluray player and that's it. Thanks.
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Well, chuck that! I just bought a brand new Samsung 40" LCD that I expect to arrive tomorrow, so I will certainly not be going out and buying another TV anytime soon. Bottom line: I will not need a bluray player that has 3D capability. The same can be said for most people, I think. 3D capable bluray players seem to be all the rage, but how many people have 3D capable TV's to play them on? And who is going to run out and buy a new TV when the one they have works just fine? So all I need now is a WiFi capable bluray player and that's it. Thanks.

I agree with you if you have to pay extra for the 3D feature but the new Sonys have the same 2009 prices . I can take anything for free!

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