Originally Posted by mmiles
Well DcS, EMM Labs and Wadia must love them $79 transports...
I'm sure you have but if not go to thier room at CES and look at the transports out of the box on display. They sure don't look like $79 Pioneers.
From what I've seen [ and by no means do I have a 1/1000th of your knowledge and expertise ] they a well built assembly using quality materials.
As for waht they do and how they do it well that is a question for the boys in Tokoyo [TEAC].
You are completely confused.
The transport in the DV-50 and the DV-60 are NOT the same transports used in the top-of-the-line Esoteric players. Esoteric currently has four levels of transports:
a) Their top level transport used in the UX-1 and variants. This is a beast. The disc motor is buried in the 12 mm thick steel top bridge, driving the disc from above. OEM cost is $4000, with a minimum purchase of 50 units ($200,000 total). But it is no longer available as the laser has been discontinued. Esoteric is saving the few left for their own products.
b) Their second level transport is very similar and is just scaled back a hair. The disc motor is still in the top, but it is scaled back to 10 mm. Still a great transport. OEM price is $3000. There are only two companies that use this. dCS uses it in the transport of their $60,000 stack and Spectral uses it in their 4000 model CD-only player.
c) It is a huge leap down from the above two transports. They make one transport that is completely conventional (drive motor on the bottom, just like every other transport in the world) with the exception of a metal tray. OEM price is $800. I don't know anybody that uses this.
d) Their cheapest transport is made entirely of plastic and also has the drive motor on the bottom. The only unusual feature is the clamping disc on the top is several times larger than normal. OEM price is $500. This is used in the $20,000 single-box dCS player.
I don't know what EMM uses. Years ago Wadia used a CD-only version of the massive transport with the motor on top. But that has been discontinued for six or eight years, which is why Wadia no longer makes the 861. Their cheaper player started out with the Pioneer "Stable Platter" mechanism, but when that was discontinued they switched to a conventional Philips transport.
First get your facts straight, then post.
More info and pictures here:http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.mpl?...hirez&n=242487
Edit: Oops! I forgot about the transport used in the DV-50 and DV-60. These are below the four transports listed above. The DV-50 used a stock Pioneer transport with a new "bridge" that holds the clamping disc. I'm not sure about the DV-60, but it is quite similar and a clear step below the four transports listed above (and shown in the photos in the link).