Originally Posted by sillysally
. I wasn't commenting on what he said so much, but how he said it.
I think anybody that reads it can see the rest coming.
Anyway my point in what I was saying is that audio is a very personal thing. What I like you may not. And really the one thing we can determine about the BD-83 or modded versions, is how accurate it reproduces the audio to what is on the disc.
Actually, the problem is that we cannot determine how _accurately_ the 83 (in any form) or any other component or tweak reproduces what is on the disc.
Why? because chances are we weren't sitting next to the microphone in the concert hall during the original live event. If you didn't experience the music first hand, how do you know what it should sound like? How do you know if your system is _accurately_ reproducing it?
And the situation only gets worse when you consider the original recording equipment. Was the microphone(s) set up correctly? Did it, or other equipment in the recording chain, "color" the sound in any way? Did the room acoustics mess with the bass? If so, then who knows what's recorded on that shiny metal disc?
So you randomly grab a CD from your collection, pop it in your system for a listen, and think, "hmm, the bass sounds muddy". Or, "the imaging could be better". Or, "it sounds too analytical (whatever that means)".
So you think, "I'll try different interconnects. Or maybe a different amp. Or maybe I should put my transport up on cones. I'm sure one of those changes will make it _sound_better_."
So you make a change and lo and behold, the bass is more taught, or now you can pick out exactly where that trumpet is in the soundstage. Great! What did you really accomplish???
Maybe the bass on that CD _is_ muddy, or maybe the imaging _is_ poor. What happens when you listen to a different CD, say one that (unbeknownst to you) is the mythical "perfect recording" of the original event. Because of the changes you made to your system, the highs are now too shrill, or...
Hmm, maybe you need a new preamp!
The whole idea of "high fidelity" is faithfull reproduction of the input signal (music). A crappy recording should sound crappy. Anything we do to make it "sound better" is by definition distortion.
And since objective measurements like THD or frequency response don't seem to tell the whole story, we're left in a subjective mess with everyone in search of things that will make their rig "sound better".
(That said, I too am hoping the 83SE "sounds good". I would definitely consider the upgrade
Sorry for the rant. I ran across some initial comments on the 83SE somewhere on the web. This person felt it was basically unlistenable. At least until (s)he put it on cones. Then the clouds parted...