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For the first time I looked at a blu-ray player last night, and couldn't see any composite output on it.

If you still have an older TV with only composite input and no component or S-video, CAN you run a blu-ray player into it?
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Sure. Most of the ones I have seen have them but why would you want it? The video quality you get via composite makes BR pointless.

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Pioneer 51 has composite and s-Video. I know the Pioneer 05 was regarded for having better analog picture quality than the 51 (one of the few differences between the 2 units), but I don't know if that is limited to component only or all analog outputs.
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Sure. Most of the ones I have seen have them but why would you want it? The video quality you get via composite makes BR pointless.

Explained in the opening post.

Older TV with no S-Video or Component, but in fine shape with no reason to replace it.

Up to date Blu-Ray player in anticipation of DVDs disapearing.
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Up to date Blu-Ray player in anticipation of DVDs disapearing.

DVDs aren't going anywhere soon. I'd punt the BD player and put the $$$ towards new HDTV.

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DVDs aren't going anywhere soon. I'd punt the BD player and put the $$$ towards new HDTV.

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+1 There isn't any need to spend the money on a BDP to utilize the composite output on it. You can either spend the money on a new tv or just start building up your collection of dvds.

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I've never seen a BR player without a composite output but try and find a new one with a S-video output is darn near impossible. Component output is also starting to disappear, but the cheap JVC I saw without component still had composite.
I'm guessing in the near future HDMI and composite will be about it for video outputs on the majority of cheap players.
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I've never seen a BR player without a composite output but try and find a new one with a S-video output is darn near impossible. Component output is also starting to disappear, but the cheap JVC I saw without component still had composite.
I'm guessing in the near future HDMI and composite will be about it for video outputs on the majority of cheap players.

The new AACS licensing will kill component video on Blu-ray players very soon. In fact I don't believe decoded video will be allowed over any analog port in the final phase, even at 480i. That eliminates composite and s-video too.

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Since entry-level BD players now are just as cheap as comparable DVD players, there's no reason to buy DVD players any more. All of the entry-level BD players that I've seen have composite video and stereo audio for connecting to older TVs and audio systems.

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Except most entry level DVD players are quick, intuitive, come from a major brand, and are very usable.

Entry level blu-ray players are slow, buggy, and often come from a no-name brand with no phone number to call.
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Except most entry level DVD players are quick, intuitive, come from a major brand, and are very usable.

Entry level blu-ray players are slow, buggy, and often come from a no-name brand with no phone number to call.

Is that how you would describe the Panasonic BD60, which is going for $129 right now?? Or the Sony S360? Or the Pioneer 120? Or the Samsung 1600? Or the Toshiba BDX2000?
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Older TV with no S-Video or Component, but in fine shape with no reason to replace it.

You stated the reason to replace it in the first part of your sentence... only add no HDMI, no HDTV, etc.
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I'm not sure why most of you are telling gastrof not to bother with getting a BD player. Fact is, wheather it takes one more year or 10 more years, DVDs are going down and BDs are going up. If you have an older TV, it is still worth getting a BD player and starting up your HD collection, regardless of the playback on his TV not being HD. That way, when he does get a new TV he would not have waisted his money on junky DVDs which will NOT look good on the new TV at all. Not everyone can get everything at the same time.

Gastros. Get a BD player, and start your BD collection. Yes almost all BD players that I can think of have composite. In 1-5 years, when you get an HD tv, you will have all your backlog of discs being in HD format. It is good prethinking in getting a BD player now. The quality will be the same as your current DVDs, and can only get better once you get a new TV.
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I also say, you have no rush to get a player right now. Depending on when you get an HDTV, Bluray could have progressed and there is no doubt prices are just going to drop over time. You could buy a player now, and it may not be compatible with the newest Profile by the time you use it. We know 3D is coming soon, what is next? Beyond 1080p? Probably not, but who knows what. I say either buy one of the sub $150 players or wait until you are ready. Things are only getting better and less expensive.
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I'm sure that this may be a really odd question re finding a special kind of BluRay player:

I show films to classes of older persons and use the school's set up which consists of a conventional SD player which is about 10-12 inches wide. It outputs by composite (red, white and yellow) to a fairly flat projector which then projects the film onto a modest-sized convention movie screen and has worked very well with commercially-produced SDs.
Because some in the audience have hearing issues, I am limited to films with English subtitles, and, since mostly what I show and what we talk about are classics, many of the DVDs are from Criterion and almost all have English subtitles.

For my own collection, however, I've mostly been purchasing BluRay DVDs and almost all of them have English subtitles and I'd like to use them in my classes.

Is it possible that there are small (10-13 inch) BluRay players that have composite outputs that would be compatible with my projector? I'm not trying to achieve a BluRay hi-def effect on the screen but merely to economize by being able to project my own BluRay DVDs through this kind of a player/projector system.
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Every blu-ray player I've ever seen has composite outputs.
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Thanks for the encouragement. I assumed that most, if not all, BluRay players have only component and HDMI outputs, both of which may output hi-def images, whereas a set of composite outputs might not necessarily be a needed part of a BluRay player's output.
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Doesn't make much sense to me either. I assume composite persists in case there are HDMI problems and a fail-safe config method is needed. If in doubt, most owner manuals are freely downloadable from manufacturer's web sites and show connections. So pick the cheapest player you can find and check the manual. BTW, component has all but disappeared on blu-ray due to analog sunset.
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Is it possible that there are small (10-13 inch) BluRay players that have composite outputs that would be compatible with my projector? I’m not trying to achieve a BluRay hi-def effect on the screen but merely to economize by being able to project my own BluRay DVDs through this kind of a player/projector system.

Magnavox makes(or at least use to make) a narrow(<1') BR player. It has HDMI, composite and I believe component outputs. Last I looked they were available as new(or refurbished) at local Pawn America and I believe they sell/sold for $69. Sorry I don't know the model number and PA didn't seem to list them on their website.
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My local Walmart was selling off its Black Friday shipment of LG BD610's for $58. Still had quite a few left as of Xmas Eve. I got one as a xmas gift. It has composite (rca) outputs for older tv's and looks pretty good. You'd have to set the screen ratio to 4:3 widescreen before playing any movies. Bought my dad the BD of Full Metal Jacket for xmas, looked a lot better than the 2000 dvd release.

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I was at Target today and noted the smaller BD players they had:
Vizio 122-$109 Nothing but HDMI output and coax audio(no composite/SD outputs) did have WiFi built in.
Sony BDP-S185 $99 the nicest of the bunch IMO, 11 1/2" W and had all but S-video and optical audio outputs.
RCA 11082 13" W, $89, ok but I thought overpriced for a RCA.
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I'm sure that this may be a really odd question re finding a special kind of BluRay player:

I show films to classes of older persons and use the school's set up which consists of a conventional SD player which is about 10-12 inches wide. It outputs by composite (red, white and yellow) to a fairly flat projector which then projects the film onto a modest-sized convention movie screen and has worked very well with commercially-produced SDs.
Because some in the audience have hearing issues, I am limited to films with English subtitles, and, since mostly what I show and what we talk about are classics, many of the DVDs are from Criterion and almost all have English subtitles.

For my own collection, however, I've mostly been purchasing BluRay DVDs and almost all of them have English subtitles and I'd like to use them in my classes.

Is it possible that there are small (10-13 inch) BluRay players that have composite outputs that would be compatible with my projector? I'm not trying to achieve a BluRay hi-def effect on the screen but merely to economize by being able to project my own BluRay DVDs through this kind of a player/projector system.

Might be a bad idea to publicly post what you're doing with your real name because technically, showing DVDs or BDs to a group of people in a commercial or institutional setting is illegal in the United States even if you don't charge admission. DVDs and BDs are licensed for home use only.
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Unless you want to move to BluRay as a purchased medium....DVD is not going to die soon.

New releases will still be on DVD for some time to come, and AFIK, BluRay players will always play DVDs.....so you aren't going to be stuck with an umplayable library like you were with VHS or LD.

If you aren't going to see any PQ benefit from BluRay....................I say what's the point unless you want to added features in the new crop of "smart" BluRay players.

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Just ordered this one, and it has no composite or component, Toshiba BDX4150 3D.
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I am having a problem trying to find a Blue Ray Player that has Wi-fi, that I can connect to my Harmon/Kardon AVR20 receiver. My TV is a Visio connected with component cables to the receiver to get a good sound. But most of the Blue Ray players I find does not have this type of output. I was looking at a Panasonic DMP-BDT220, thinking it might work. Being an old man I am shy in the knowledge of today audio. Maybe you can recommend a player that would work for me. I would like to be able to have it connect to my home network so I could stream Netflix.
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That Panasonic will work fine for you since your AVR has only the Red/White RCA type of analog audio inputs. You'll also need an HDMI cable to connect it to your TV. I recommend getting your cable from Amazon or Monoprice.com.
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Blu is dying, Streaming is In
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Not sure what that has to do with this thread, but there is still a huge number of titles that aren't available for streaming, not to mention the huge quality difference you get on BD. Until the studios make everything available on streaming, discs are going to still be around and remain necessary.
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