Originally Posted by ddgtr
Yeah, I must jump the Oppo ship.
To me, this is retarded because it negates the purpose of having a lower cost bd player: so here is your inexpensive player, but it will perform best with a video processor.
So in a nutshell, what they are saying is: you either buy the 83 or you're going to spend more for the extra processor to get it right...
$300 is way too much for this... I am shopping for something else...
"Negates the purpose of an inexpensive player"?
So the purpose of a cheaper player is to give you the same performance level of player that cost thousands of dollars for EVEN LESS than the BDP-83?
Now that's retarded... if you don't mind me using your term.
You will not find another player on the market that has the same performance level of the BDP-83 for even close to what the BDP-83 sells for.
So by definition, when compared to what actually competes with the BDP-83, the -83 IS an inexpensive player.
So then, OPPO realizes than even as much of a bargain as the -83 is, not everyone can afford $500 for a player.
So they do a spanking great job at retaining the majority of the features of the -83, while still knocking more than 40% off the price of what the -83 costs.
The biggest reduction in performance, could be considered the lack of the ABT VRS processor.
Not to say that the solution in the BDP-80 is not good. It is very good in fact.
What OPPO is stressing, is that it is not "top shelf" performance with dvds as it is with the BDP-83.
Just last night, I literally watched the first half of a dvd on the BDP-80, and the second half on the BDP-83.
The -83 sure did look better on my 8.5 foot wide screen, but the -80 still looked decent.
If price was the deciding factor between the two, and I had a display less the 60", I wouldn't hesitate to get the BDP-80.
Of course I am completely spoiled by what the BDP-83, and the DV-983H before it can do with dvds.
FWIW, the BDP-80 still IS a UNIVERSAL player, and once again there is not a player on the market that can compete with it's feature set.
If you want to stricktly consider only dvd and BD, then the player is still wonderful, and ON PAR with what other players offer.
Just look at the features of what the middle end players on the market offer for their price point.
Sure there are BD players that can be had for $100-$150, but they will still not have as good of PQ with dvds as what the -80 has, and they sure as heck don't have the world renown customer service and support that OPPO offers.